Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#402111 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
JG...I do not believe that a born again CHRIST FOLLOWING CHRISTIAN is lukewarm. But if you go down one street and invite someone to church, you will hear repeatedly of their wounded feelings and bitter experiences with church...and it is next to impossible to get them to come out.
They ARE NOT following Him. When He was hurt He did not quit. When He was tormented by whips and nails, He prayed for His tormentors. Psalm 78:9 says: "The children of Ephraim BEING ARMED turned back."
God has ARMED the Christian with faith and His Spirit. Those who turn back ARE LUKEWARM. In battle a turncoat or a sentry who goes to sleep is court martialed. Jesus said,'if you are lukewarm' He will spew you out.
He needs 'soldiers' fit for the battle. Lives depend on it. It is more important than an earthly battle.
KayMarie
YEAH JESUS!! RAH! RAH! RAH!
G-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-OOOOO JESUS!!
<|;O)

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402112 Nov 13, 2012
who="OldJG"
Are the ashes that are placed on the forehead of a Roman Catholic during a time they call "lent" the mark of the beast? Hmm.

**********

There is now an RFID chip that can be implanted in one's skin. It can hold all of your pertinent information, and thus be used to fulfill Rev. 13:17 Without it, no one can buy or sell. It can be read with a scanner, much as the clerk in a store scans your purchases.

Global government is now gaining ground, so we can see that all the world can be subdued/enslaved.

One must never accept that 'mark'...

KayMarie
Clay

United States

#402113 Nov 13, 2012
OldJG wrote:
<quoted text>
Are the ashes that are placed on the forehead of a Roman Catholic during a time they call "lent" the mark of the beast? Hmm.
No. The ashes are to remind us of our immortality. You say it could be the mark of the beast? Well, that's because you're a false prophet and an idiot for implying such nonsense.
towncrier

Duluth, GA

#402114 Nov 13, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
YEAH JESUS!! RAH! RAH! RAH!
G-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-OOOOO JESUS!!
<|;O)
Are you slightly retarded?
Clay

United States

#402115 Nov 13, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I believe your and Robs post to each other concerning the Mark of the Beast and the Rapture is the most helarious I have ever read. Keep it up Boyz........ROTFLOL
I don't believe me and Rob conversed with each other about the 'mark of the beast'. I asked him a question but I don't think he responded yet.. Or did he? I'll look back at it.
Anyway, you have no idea what the Apostle John was seeing in his vision. You and the apocalyptic cults are guilty of adding your personal ideology to Revelation. I wish you could see your sin.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402116 Nov 13, 2012
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"

- I am humble enough to say, that I don't need recognition for the good I do...
"'knockout parties'"
- Can't say I have, but it doesn't surprise me though, as I try not to dwell in seeing destruction. I'd rather hear of a reunion of an American soldier coming back from the war and seeing his children, than what you seem to prefer to watch.
"People can be trained to be godly; they can also be trained to yield to their fallen nature.:
- Men training other men....who would've thought, huh? Inginuity at its best!
- Now I understand you more. You've been trained to admonish others for their perception of salvation, as long as it is different than yours.
And you can't see how this divides its followers?

**********

Who mentioned 'watching' anything? Or any preferences?
Godly training. You never heard of mothers and fathers? Teachers?
(You were BORN godly...I see...):)
What divides whose followers? Sorry, you don't make things very plain.

KayMarie
Clay

United States

#402117 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
No. The ashes are to remind us of our immortality. You say it could be the mark of the beast? Well, that's because you're a false prophet and an idiot for implying such nonsense.
Oops, I meant the ashes are a sign of our mortality. Lol.
Clay

United States

#402118 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="OldJG"
Are the ashes that are placed on the forehead of a Roman Catholic during a time they call "lent" the mark of the beast? Hmm.
**********
There is now an RFID chip that can be implanted in one's skin. It can hold all of your pertinent information, and thus be used to fulfill Rev. 13:17 Without it, no one can buy or sell. It can be read with a scanner, much as the clerk in a store scans your purchases.
Global government is now gaining ground, so we can see that all the world can be subdued/enslaved.
One must never accept that 'mark'...
KayMarie
I never thought the 'mark of the Beast' would be an actual mark. It doesn't make sense that an actual mark would need to be applied to ones forehead.
I was glad a Catholic Priest didn't think so either.
I guess I never really looked into official Church teachings on the subject. Frankly, Catholics don't get to hyped up in the hysteria of Apocalyptic talk.
It doesn't really alarm us. Perhaps that is because we receive the Eucharist and Christ "abides in me and He in I". So really, what worries are there? Four horseman? Beasts? Trumpets and battles? Lol. With Christ, all is good.. You people can run to the compound. I'll be at the Cathedral of Saint Paul calmly celebrating Mass.
Clay

United States

#402119 Nov 13, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I believe your and Robs post to each other concerning the Mark of the Beast and the Rapture is the most helarious I have ever read. Keep it up Boyz........ROTFLOL
Well, why do YOU think there is an actual 'rapture'.
Why do YOU think an actual mark is placed on ones forehead?

Wouldn't it make more sense that the Angel was symbolically showing John something? And NOT literally??
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402120 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
I don't believe me and Rob conversed with each other about the 'mark of the beast'. I asked him a question but I don't think he responded yet.. Or did he? I'll look back at it.
Anyway, you have no idea what the Apostle John was seeing in his vision. You and the apocalyptic cults are guilty of adding your personal ideology to Revelation. I wish you could see your sin.
Let me remind you

Fr Robert Dye wrote:

<quoted text>
No, what I thought was outrageous was the statement that we worship

saints, even when we deny that this is so.
.
I doubt that you actually worship the scriptures as an idol, although I

have no doubt that there are some who call themselves Christian who *do*

apprach the Bible very much the way pagans relate to an idol.
.
If you tell me that you do NOT worship the Bible, it is outrageous for me

to claim otherwise.
.
YOU are the only one who can say what your relationship whith God is(Well,

yes, God can, too, and one day will, but you knowwhat I mean).
.
By the same token, if the CC proclaims that saints are NOT to be

worshipped, but only God is to be worshipped, it is outrageous for you to

claim the exact opposite.
.
It is dishonest.
.
Which is surprising coming from you, KayMarie. That is not the sort of

thing I have come to expect from you.
.
We may disagree theologically, but my impression what that you could be

relied upon to be honest and logical.
.
Your "yes you do. You say you don't, but you do" was illogical, or

dishonest, or both, and left me very disappointed with you.
.
I hope and pray you don't worship the scriptures. It is my firm belief

that the "mark" made so much of in the Revelation is really speaking

figuratively of idolatry. Anyone who worships idols, either literally or

figuratively, will have "the mark."
.
And I don't think anyone with "great respect" for the scriptures worships

them. Respect and love for the scriptures is greatly admirable.
.
That respect and love is HOLY.
.
It is SACRED.
.
Rob
Interesting. I never really thought the 'mark of the beast' was an actual

mark either. There are plenty of people all around us that may as well

have a visible mark on their forehead because we can see
They reject God and serve the 'beast'. So an actual
Numbering system would be unnecessary. Right?

Revelation is a doozy of a book when in the wrong hands.

Question: could the So-called rapture that John was seeing be taking place

at every Catholic Mass?
Because it seems to me his visions describe the Mass- with the Priests in

robes and incense and the Lamb of God (Christ)? Lamb is something you eat.

I would like to know your thoughts on Revelation, Fr Rob.
Clay

United States

#402121 Nov 13, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>I believe your and Robs post to each other concerning the Mark of the Beast and the Rapture is the most helarious I have ever read. Keep it up Boyz........ROTFLOL
I think a good book for you would be "The Lambs Supper; the Mass as Heaven on Earth" by Dr Scott Hahn.
I only skimmed through it, but I know its a detailed outline of Revelation and how it pertains to the Holy Mass.
Your paranoid version of Revelation is very new. I think you'd be interested how the early Christians viewed it. I don't know when exactly your side added to the book.. But clearly someone did and passed it on to you!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402122 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
Well, why do YOU think there is an actual 'rapture'.
Why do YOU think an actual mark is placed on ones forehead?
Wouldn't it make more sense that the Angel was symbolically showing John something? And NOT literally??
I never said it had to be a literal mark now did I. There are several views on it. It does have to do with buying and selling and those that overcoe are the ones keeping the commandments of God.
For one the bible speaks of the resurrection and being CALLED UP to meet him in the air.
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402123 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, why do YOU think there is an actual 'rapture'.
Why do YOU think an actual mark is placed on ones forehead?
Wouldn't it make more sense that the Angel was symbolically showing John something? And NOT literally??
Your post shows and proves how very little of the Bible you do know. SO SAD

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402124 Nov 13, 2012
who="7th Day Catholics Rock"
.
Rob
Interesting. I never really thought the 'mark of the beast' was an actual
mark either. There are plenty of people all around us that may as well
have a visible mark on their forehead because we can see
They reject God and serve the 'beast'. So an actual
Numbering system would be unnecessary. Right?
Revelation is a doozy of a book when in the wrong hands.
Question: could the So-called rapture that John was seeing be taking place
at every Catholic Mass?
Because it seems to me his visions describe the Mass- with the Priests in
robes and incense and the Lamb of God (Christ)? Lamb is something you eat.
I would like to know your thoughts on Revelation, Fr Rob.

**********

Catholic Mass...the RAPTURE ??? Priests...robes...incense and the Lamb of God? The Lamb is something you EAT ??? Surely you must be kidding?

KayMarie
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#402125 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
I never thought the 'mark of the Beast' would be an actual mark. It doesn't make sense that an actual mark would need to be applied to ones forehead.
I was glad a Catholic Priest didn't think so either.
I guess I never really looked into official Church teachings on the subject. Frankly, Catholics don't get to hyped up in the hysteria of Apocalyptic talk.
It doesn't really alarm us. Perhaps that is because we receive the Eucharist and Christ "abides in me and He in I". So really, what worries are there? Four horseman? Beasts? Trumpets and battles? Lol. With Christ, all is good.. You people can run to the compound. I'll be at the Cathedral of Saint Paul calmly celebrating Mass.
Here we go with cracker-mania. You eat a cracker so you have eternal life...lol...lol...lol....lol. ...dumb....stupid....
moronic....pitiful....pagan... .perverted....said like a true ROMAN CATHOLIC.

YOUR QUOTE, "You people can run to the compound. I'll be at the Cathedral of Saint Paul calmly celebrating Mass." END QUOTE.

No, you will be at the cathedral of your father satan wondering what happened to the mass and maybe he will pass out the crackers. lol lol lol lol
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#402126 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="7th Day Catholics Rock"
.
Rob
Interesting. I never really thought the 'mark of the beast' was an actual
mark either. There are plenty of people all around us that may as well
have a visible mark on their forehead because we can see
They reject God and serve the 'beast'. So an actual
Numbering system would be unnecessary. Right?
Revelation is a doozy of a book when in the wrong hands.
Question: could the So-called rapture that John was seeing be taking place
at every Catholic Mass?
Because it seems to me his visions describe the Mass- with the Priests in
robes and incense and the Lamb of God (Christ)? Lamb is something you eat.
I would like to know your thoughts on Revelation, Fr Rob.
**********
Catholic Mass...the RAPTURE ??? Priests...robes...incense and the Lamb of God? The Lamb is something you EAT ??? Surely you must be kidding?
KayMarie
LOL yes that was Clays words I just reposted his response to ROB so he would remember what he posted.

I never heard any tell anything so rediculous concerning the resurrection/rapture.
towncrier

Duluth, GA

#402127 Nov 13, 2012
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#402128 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
...
...
A Pope or Papal succession in Rome which is the primary foundation of your Church..
This ..to me jeopardize all the rest that your church stands for...
It is just not in the Bible...
Websters definition of the word Pope--means "Bishop", which is referred to and clearly "spelled out" in Acts 2, in Jesus Christs 1st Church at Antioch~!
AGAIN---"where does it say "in the bible that God chose to transmit His divine and Sacred Word---ONLY ----in the bible. This "bible only" claim of yours is (nothing) but a "man-made" belief that has been concocted, made up,/invented "myth" that has absolutely "no basis" of ANY biblical or historical truth to "back up" ANY of what it claims as truth! On the other hand--the Catholic Church has over 2000 years of PROVEN biblical and historical documented writings to confirm, back up and substantiate its (ENTIRE) existence as being authenticate and TRUE---your "bible only" made-up belief has NONE--NOTHING--ZILCH!!!! In fact--that IN THE BIBLE itself--it says just the opposite!! In I Tim 3:15 Paul calls "The Church (not the bible) the pillar, pinnacle and foundation of the TRUTH.--When are you going to stop "making up things" Confrinting. We, as Catholics, continue to "uncover and expose" all of your "fabricated false and distorted assertions as "just plain lies"----attempting to deceive others while you deceive yourself!!!
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#402129 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, why do YOU think there is an actual 'rapture'.
Why do YOU think an actual mark is placed on ones forehead?
Wouldn't it make more sense that the Angel was symbolically showing John something? And NOT literally??
Exactly like your belief and literal interpretation of TRANSUBSTANTIATION. Your faith is a joke as you are a joke.

Did you know John 6 does not describe the Jesus and His disciples in the upper room. Probably not....you are tooooooooooooo dummmmmmmmmmb or toooooooooooo Rommmmmmmmmman Catholllllllllllllllllllllic. Onnnnnnnnnnnne or the oooooooother or booooooooth!

Luke 22:19, "And He took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me."

DO WHAT???? HE BROKE THE BREAD not His arm or leg and said do this in remembrance of Me. Wow Jesus did not say do this because the bread IS me. IN REMEMBRANCE of HIM!

Luke 22:20, "Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you."

WHAT IS IT???? Is the NEW COVENANT in His blood. NOT HIS BLOOD!!!

Your Roman Catholics are so gullible....lol....lol....lol! !!!
towncrier

Duluth, GA

#402130 Nov 13, 2012
Section 1. The Heresy of The Protestant Reformers And The Jansenists

THE HERETICAL ERRORS OF LUTHER, CALVIN, AND JANSENIUS CONTRASTED WITH THE ORTHODOX TEACHING OF THE CHURCH.—Luther and Calvin asserted that the freedom of the will was irretrievably lost by original sin. Jansenius taught that the will is overcome by efficacious grace in exactly the same way as it is overpowered by concupiscence in the absence of grace. Against both these heresies the Church has always maintained that the will remains free under the influence of efficacious grace.

http://christianbookshelf.org/pohle/grace_act...

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