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Free Mind

Pinellas Park, FL

#402053 Nov 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
You said the GOP used to get vast majorities of the Cuban vote, but not recently. What was so extreme and disrespectful about Romney's campaign? I can only guess that it was his hard line on immigration. So if you consider GW Bush's large percentage of the Cuban vote and the fact that he was softer on the illegals, one can really only come to one of two conclusions; Either the GOP lost because of Romney's immigration stance, in which case they better change it if they want to win nationally, or, the Latino's voted for Obama because he's a minority, like them. With a very similar skin color, BTW.
As I said, you will never get beyond your simplistic 'skin color' thing, no matter what I say.

I guess in your mind, that explains the Asian-American vote too.

Deep.

Funny you bring up GWB. Leading up to the election, I didn't hear his name mentioned once by any Republican. That didn't occur to me until now.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402054 Nov 13, 2012
who="Robert F"
good friend
I want to remind you that the Mass which is said everyday, about 1/2 of it is devoted the Word. And that the entire Mass is based on scripture. And the CC encourages all to read the Bible.
A Catholic does not disrespect the Bible, or a Bible reading person. Rather the opposite is true....
It becomes a problem when the Bible is made equal to being God, and taking pride in one's knowledge of the Bible. It is a sin of presumption, and breaking the 1st Commandment(O.T.).

**********

Backward reasoning. One's Word is who/what one IS. The worst thing one can do to you is to reject your word when you are telling the truth. God says NOTHING but Truth...and to reject that, is to reject Him.

Few are proud of their Biblical knowledge. Generally the opposite is true. FEW people read/know it as they should.'Taking pride' in one's knowledge is sinful...but NOT KNOWING the Word is worse. "Study to show yourself approved UNTO GOD, a workman that does not need to be ashamed, rightfully dividing the word of truth." II Tim. 2:15

I've even known some dummies who said they would not read the Bible, so that they would not be held accountable for what they knew. "He that knows to do good, and does not do it, to him it is SIN."

KayMarie

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402055 Nov 13, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
good friend
I want to remind you that the Mass which is said everyday, about 1/2 of it is devoted the Word. And that the entire Mass is based on scripture. And the CC encourages all to read the Bible.
A Catholic does not disrespect the Bible, or a Bible reading person. Rather the opposite is true....
It becomes a problem when the Bible is made equal to being God, and taking pride in one's knowledge of the Bible. It is a sin of presumption, and breaking the 1st Commandment(O.T.).
~~~

You wrote

It becomes a problem when the Bible is made equal to being God, and taking pride in one's knowledge of the Bible.

Again I ask you

How does one separate God from His Word?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#402056 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="New Age Spiritual Leader"
So you are now changing it up, to say...."the soul is the most precious"....."is worth more than the world."
Trash the Bible....it isn't needed anymore, once you have come to conclude this.
This is the confusion that Christainity conveys to its followers.
**********
The Bible is given for the salvation of the soul. JESUS was the One Who taught that the whole world could not pay for a human soul. Your soul is YOUR most valued possession...it is 'who' YOU are. Lose The Word of God, the Bible, and you have no hope.
"Seek ye FIRST the kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these 'things'(food, clothing, etc.) will be ADDED to you."
KayMarie
Stop backpeddling - you are embarrassing yourself.

Just own up you made a mistake.

Can you? Or are you just too righteous to be humble?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#402057 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
YOU don't have REMOTEST UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO CONE AGAINST...
"cone against?"

Not sure what fundamentalist lingo this is, but it doesn't sound happy, caring, or even sharing in Jesus.

FYI - I understand perfectly what I write. Unfortunately, you don't.
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
If you ever get born again you will understand....until then you are dead to God's word...
I'll never be born again through any of your beliefs, because I am already "born again" through the teachings of Jesus.
~~~
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>A TRUE CHRISTIAN IS NOT CALLED TO BE A PART OF A RELIGIOUS SOCIETY,
HE IS CALLED TO BE AN AMBASSADOR.... THAT ALLOWS THE HOLY SPIRIT TO REPRESENT GOD THROUGH HIM.
And yet you think you are part of "Christianity" as a whole.

Do you even understand what you write?
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#402058 Nov 13, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
You know HoJo, you have never heard the gospel of Jesus Christ.
You never heard it in a protestant church , nor have you heard it in a catholic church.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE CLOSED YOUR MIND AND HEART TO WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST.
(WHICH BY THE WAY IS NOT PROTESTANT NOR IS IT CATHOLIC.)
I BELIEVE THE BIBLE BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR JESUS, WHO KEPT SAYING TO THE DISCIPLES AND THE PHARISEE'S, AND THE DEVIL IT IS WRITTEN. WHE JESUS STOOD UP IN THE TEMPLE AND STARTED PREACHING HE READ FOR THE WRITTEN WORD, WHICH WAS SPEAKING OF HIM.
PICK UP THE BIBLE AND READ IT YOUR SELF HOJO. OR ARE YOU LIKE MOST CATHOLIC'S FULL OF PRIDE PREVENTS YOU FROM SEEKING GOD WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART.
YOU, LTM, continue to prove, over and over and over again--that "you have NO IDEA, as to what you are talking about, which is no surprise to ANYONE, especially Catholics.--To begin, I read the bible (every day) and have read it through and through at least on 10 different occasions over a period of 35 years. You, my friend, are so "out of touch" with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, regarding the Christian belief, Salvation, and Our Lords TRUE doctrine of faith as well as the TRUE--spoken and stated words of Jesus Christ (HIMSELF) because of being so "inundated with your "bible only" anti-catholic, anti-church, anti-TRUE GOSPEL heretical teachings. I suggest that you refrain from undermine the TRUE GOSPEL and message of Jesus Christ HIMSELF, and make an effort to "get out of the anti-Church, anti- Catholic "bondage" that have infected your heart, mind and soul. As I said before, YOU are not the "final judge" of ANYONE (elses) Salvation, their personal relationship with Jesus Christ and who is a Christian and who is not!!
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#402059 Nov 13, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Because I object to child porn, I can't possibly be catholic, yet I am still on the rolls.
http://voicefaithful.wordpress.com/2012/11/12...
I refuse to pay these creeps money to take my name off.
And when did Mass attendance become optional for Catholics? Get a grip hojo.
YOU can believe ANYTHING you want--Free Mind! It makes "no difference to me"! I'll continue to follow the historical and biblical TRUTH of Jesus Christ and His One True Catholic Church, at daily Mass, the Gospel readings, the Eucharist (Our Lords TRUE body and blood), the Sacraments, and the Daily Adoration prayer chapel---YOU, MY FRIEND--CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT!!
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#402060 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;
Eph 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Eph 3:18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;
Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
Eph 3:20 ---> Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think,
according to the power that worketh in us, <---
Eph 3:21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
AMEN CONFRINTING HOW ARE YOU DOING.
Where you effected by any of the storms, that hit New York. So many people still without lights. Toronto really got hit also way up here in Canada. We had a couple of days with high winds and rain, tail end of Sandy.
My husband has been in bed for about 2 weeks he has been aweful sick. went and got some more medication to day.
He has an bad rash all over his body, from the pills they gave him for his prostrate gland.
But he ended up with a bad cold, that settled in his chest.
Up till a couple of years ago my husband was a pretty healthy guy,
that fall he had 2 years this christmas really took some of the wind out of his sails.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402061 Nov 13, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
<quoted text>
"cone against?"
Not sure what fundamentalist lingo this is, but it doesn't sound happy, caring, or even sharing in Jesus.
FYI - I understand perfectly what I write. Unfortunately, you don't.
<quoted text>
I'll never be born again through any of your beliefs, because I am already "born again" through the teachings of Jesus.
~~~
<quoted text>
And yet you think you are part of "Christianity" as a whole.
Do you even understand what you write?
~~~

I made the mistake of responding to your post.. I forgot that all you can do is insult and harangue and harass... like Preston Jr

.I should have ignored you...and from now on unless you write something that is edifying I intend to, IGNORE YOUR POST.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#402062 Nov 13, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>"Broad is the way that leads to destruction,and narrow is the way that leads to Eternal Life,and few there be that find it." I suggest you be not so quick to claim your broad religious claims will lead us all to Christ's eternal salvation.We have yet to see what the next pope will bring to your church.Pope Benedict is not a young spring chicken by any stretch. When one finds Christ hojo,they are not at a loss!
Yes PAD--"broad is the way" --in fact, your bible only Protestant, inconsistent, contradicting and conflicting 42,000+ denominations, are "so broad" that all of you have a "monopoly and a clear path to destruction".----Abortion , gay marriage, euthenasia, emboyonic stem cell research, gay ministers, and on and on and on,(every which way) depending and accepting, anything and everything (every which way)" that the political wind blows! I have found, worship, have accepted, and adhere to the TRUE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST--"each and every day" at daily Mass, the Eucharist, Gods Word, the Sacraments, etc. Unfortunately, for you PAD, you are as "mixed up, confused and distorted in your "anti-catholic judgmental opinion' as LTM, Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, justachristian1, OLDJG and any other bible only Protestant heretic, that I left out!!
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402063 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
No but there are times when God speaks to us.
When God's anointed INSPIRED... word is spoken forth
God is speaking, through that individual no matter whom he may be.
-->GOD'S WORD BREAKS THE YOKE...
Isa_10:27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and
---> the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. <---
Well then, as I've told you several times, stick to pasting scripture verses and leave your personal opinions out of your posts. It has to be this way until you can show us that you have the authority to infallibly interpret them. Thank you.
LTM

Sault Sainte Marie, Canada

#402064 Nov 13, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
YOU, LTM, continue to prove, over and over and over again--that "you have NO IDEA, as to what you are talking about, which is no surprise to ANYONE, especially Catholics.--To begin, I read the bible (every day) and have read it through and through at least on 10 different occasions over a period of 35 years. You, my friend, are so "out of touch" with ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, regarding the Christian belief, Salvation, and Our Lords TRUE doctrine of faith as well as the TRUE--spoken and stated words of Jesus Christ (HIMSELF) because of being so "inundated with your "bible only" anti-catholic, anti-church, anti-TRUE GOSPEL heretical teachings. I suggest that you refrain from undermine the TRUE GOSPEL and message of Jesus Christ HIMSELF, and make an effort to "get out of the anti-Church, anti- Catholic "bondage" that have infected your heart, mind and soul. As I said before, YOU are not the "final judge" of ANYONE (elses) Salvation, their personal relationship with Jesus Christ and who is a Christian and who is not!!
Sorry HoJo I have no time for someone who speaks against \Gods Holy Word, yet claims their church gave the world the Bible.
That is an oxymoron to say the least Hojo.
Pick up a Bible and start reading it for yourself HoJo don't be so lazy.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402066 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"]<quoted text>
So you and your husband speak for God?
**********
As long as any of us say what He says, we are speaking 'for' Him. We do not speak from our own opinion, and speak for Him.
Even Jesus said, "I say WHAT MY FATHER SAYS".
KayMarie
When you paste scripture verses, you are conveying His words. When you add your own personal opinions as to the meaning of His words you are doing nothing but sharing your opinions. Neither you nor your husband have any authority to speak infallibly.

Stick to pasting scripture and leave the interpretation to those who have authority. That's biblical.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402067 Nov 13, 2012
This Saturday, the Midwest Marxist Conference was held at Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism. The event was teeming with teachers who spoke about the new found bond between the radical socialists and their Teachers Union. The all-day event, which collected money to support Chicago Socialists and featured a communist bookstore, provided students on-campus along with the radical left community to plan the next phase in their activism.
Becca Barnes, a Chicago Teachers Union teacher and organizer with Chicago Socialists, proclaimed at the beginning of the conference that “the struggle here in the United States has entered a new phase. Nowhere have we pointed the way forward more clearly than here in Chicago with the teachers union strike.”
After the opening plenary, breakout sessions addressed more specific topics like the history of the Democratic party, education, and case studies in Russia. In these sessions, speakers continued to celebrate the use of education as a mechanism to insert Marxism into public institutions. In one session, the idea of targeting their message to students, even over “the working class,” was debated.
One teacher, who spoke in an afternoon session, described his tactics to overcome the problem of teachers’ unwillingness to take part in the strike, while Chicago Teachers Union Vice President Jesse Sharkey underscored Barnes’s earlier point when he spoke about the “struggle” of Chicago teachers and the need for additional support from other revolutionary movements. Through a renewed focus on the “strike weapon,” Socialist organizers remarked that they felt their movement had rediscovered its vigor—and the path forward ought to include “mass strikes,” they said.
Eric Ruder of the ISO spoke about the Socialists’ partnership with the Chicago Teachers Union during “The Meaning of Marxism” breakout session:
There are big moments in the sort of chain of historical development that we have to be able to intervene... And in order to that, you need an organization. That’s really the sort of thing you saw in the Chicago teachers strike. In a situation where there was a huge struggle, our organization threw itself in the middle of that and had a demonstrable impact on it.
Because we’ve been rooted, experienced activists who worked together in a collaborative way to try to build up that influence over the long haul… I think when you get in revolutionary moment where your ability to quickly assess what’s happening and make strategic and tactical shifts on the fly, that is essential.
Working class revolutions have never succeeded without the existence of a revolutionary party that’s capable of making those sorts of decisions and providing that kind of leadership. And that’s what we’re asking you, the members of this group, to join and help in that process. We need you to be able to have enough size and influence to matter, but you need us to be able to be part of a force that could intervene in that sort of chain in historical development.

continued

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402068 Nov 13, 2012
continued

Other speakers addressed perceived weaknesses in the Socialists’ messaging, including the need to shore up the high pay of union members and racism inherent at the AFL-CIO, which, according to participants, has been an historic problem. Others acknowledged that the general public “seems to fear us” and brainstormed ways to counter these fears.
The event itself, though advertised online as via social media, retained a sense of extreme secrecy. Attendees were told not to record video or audio unless they had express permission from organizers. Rather than traditional discussions in the breakout sessions, we were instructed to “raise your hand in a fist” in order to be first approved and then added by a moderator to a queue to speak. This orthodoxy resulted in extremely disjointed Q&A sessions where no one comment followed another and most questions went unanswered.
After attending the all-day event, which began at 11 a.m., I was singled out as “not in solidarity” by International Socialist Organization (ISO) organizer Dennis Kosuth around 4 p.m, and removed from the premises for “not being a Communist.”
Despite registering for the event, the group of socialists that removed me, including pre-school teacher Kirstin Roberts, social worker Alison McKenna, printer Eric Kerl, Socialist organizer Shaun Harkin, and others. They surrounded me at the edge of a staircase, proceeded to push their way closer to me to force me down the stairs, and hurled insults at me as I attempted to find a way to leave safely. Even after leaving the conference, the group continued to bully me, with one larger man saying under his breath that “you know what would happen at Teamsters meeting” inferring a more violent solution to my presence:
While it may or may not come as a surprise that a radical leftist conference was held on the grounds of an esteemed U.S. university, it is ironic that when a journalist shows up—at this “school of journalism,” no less—and they are summarily booted from just being at the conference. The mere presence of a journalist whom they could not trust to be “in solidarity” with communism was enough to send organizers into a frenzy to remove me immediately.
What were the ISO and Northwestern University so intent on hiding from journalists and the general public? Was it that Haymarket Books, a revolutionary bookstore, was allowed to open up shop on campus and sell revolutionary reading materials? Was it the number of teachers in the house, and t-shirts for sale, supporting the teachers union strike? Or that the ISO was able to charge a fee, fundraise and recruit new members to their revolutionary cause on the Northwestern grounds, using an entire lecture hall and several classrooms?
Perhaps it was all of the above, in addition to the fact that, together with leaders of the Chicago Teachers Union, Occupy Chicago and several other labor unions, these groups discussed how to achieve fundamental societal change. Change that included “historical development,” and the strategies required to overthrow the American system and replace it with a direct dictatorship of the working class over the means of production. Not the best message to send to Northwestern alums and prospective students.
The International Socialists Organizations recruitment program isn’t over after Saturday’s conference at Northwestern University. Next week, the University of Wisconsin Madison will open its doors to the group to indoctrinate another crop of students ripe for the message of revolution.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402069 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
BTW, I've tried to get some others to explain what belief means to them. Can you tell me what it means to you? Is loving Jesus part of your believing in Him?
**********
Belief in Jesus is absolute trust/confidence that HE provides forgiveness for our sins, and eternal life. One might say that 'believe' is a contraction of "being alive" in Jesus. He quickens (makes alive) our mortal body, and will, at His appearing, change these mortal (of death) bodies to immortal (undying) bodies like His own.
The instant that I yielded to that faith, I was awakened to become a new creature (II Cor. 5:17) in Him. Instantly I not only understood the commandments, I had a love for them and a desire to please Him. I've come to realize that HE IS TRUTH, and I have confidence (faith) in all that He says.
KayMarie
That's nice. Does loving Jesus not include obeying Him? What if your faith tradition is wrong about those things which Jesus commanded us to do?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402070 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
"CC's infer that we are un-Christian because we respect the Bible...thus declaring their dis-respect of it."
If you were to observe the Liturgy of the Word in a Catholic mass you would realize how wrong you are.
**********
Again, read the posts on this forum. That is where I am seeing Protestants scolded repeatedly for their faith in the Bible.
KayMarie
No Catholic has ever inferred that you are un-Christion because you respect the bible. We respect it too. If you were to observe the Liturgy of the Word in our mass you would agree that we have a tremendous respect for the bible, so much so that we won't claim the personal authority to infallibly interpret it.

In my opinion, prostestants who claim to speak for God when they personally interpret bible verses are showing a disrespect for the bible AND God Himself.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#402071 Nov 13, 2012
Anthony MN wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then, as I've told you several times, stick to pasting scripture verses and leave your personal opinions out of your posts. It has to be this way until you can show us that you have the authority to infallibly interpret them. Thank you.
~~~

Evidently..

You would just love to control and censor what I post..But as an Ordained Bishop duly recognized by my Church.
I will continue to exercise my freedom and authority to preach teach a publish and defend the Gospel of Jesus Christ...

I am here to confront with the word of God...If it cramps your style ..so be it.

I am not here for popularity...

My charge is

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402072 Nov 13, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
who="Anthony MN"
Agreed. As Jesus said, we'll do them if we love Him. What if two saved people disagree on what those commandments are?
**********
Then BOTH of them must live according to what they believe to be the Truth. God not only knows their hearts, He is able to bring them to the knowledge of the Truth.
"Let every man work out his own salvation in fear and trembling before God." God, who knows the heart/intent of every man will deal honestly with them.
KayMarie
There is only truth, there are not competing versions of it. If one says baptism is necessary for salvation and the other says no, one of them is in trouble.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#402073 Nov 13, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Same old spin.
Bottom line... Jesus did not suffer and die, only to have his deed cheapened by disgraceful acts by His sole appointed authority on earth. That would be foolish and arbitrary.
That also CLEARLY demonstrates a lack of divine guidance.
I do not think the highest power in the universe is foolish and arbitrary.
You do.
So which of us has more respect for the highest power in the universe?
It may be seen as spin by you, but even the apostles who were taught directly by Christ were sinners. You might have a point if the Catholic Church didn't teach that sinning is wrong.

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