Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

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“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#401970 Nov 13, 2012
preston wrote:
I X'D OUT TEH FILTHY WORDS.
OldJG
Rockford, IL
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Jun 26, 2012 Hermeneutics Smutics wrote:
<quoted text>I worked too long to have women disrespected. I wont tolerate it. I am dead on serious.
Oxbow wrote:
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NEVER MIND, IT IS TO FILTHY TO EVEN TRY AND CLEAN IT UP..
*hands you a few more stones*

It looks like you were running out.

:o)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#401971 Nov 13, 2012
OldJG wrote:
Has OldJG ever taken the Lord's name in vain on this forum? Yes or No? If anyone would say yes please provide the post #.
Double checking your sincerity towards the "commandments"?

Why?

Maybe you can get Robert F to characterise your beliefs and help you determine how many "commandments" you have broken.

He's good at doing this. Try him.

Oh Hi Robert!

;O)

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#401972 Nov 13, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
RCC Bishops give tacit approval to child porn.
http://voicefaithful.wordpress.com/2012/11/12...
Lord, give us a sign.... and God does, again and again.
"Although Voice of the Faithful® is disappointed at the relative inaction on this issue by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops at previous national meetings, we call for them to act immediately at their present Fall General Assembly by doing the following, which would put teeth into fraternal correction and make the USCCB position on child protection absolutely clear:

•When USCCB learns a bishop has engaged in activity that would be prohibited by the Charter, or
•When USCCB learns a bishop has disregarded the principles of the Charter and has failed to take the actions required by the Charter, or
•When USCCB learns a bishop has made public statements indicating his disagreement with the Charter’s principles or his unwillingness to take the action the Charter requires,
•Then, after notifying the bishop and after the bishop fails to take corrective action within 60 days,
•The bishop shall be excluded from USCCB activities and the USCCB’s action shall be reported to the Papal Nuncio and be the subject of a USCCB press release."

Yeah - just exclude him. Skip calling the police.

No one will ever know.

Shhhhhh!!!!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#401973 Nov 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>But you didn't answer the question. Why do you believe so many supported him in spite of his abismal record. Has the country changed that much. Have that many more people forsaken traditional values. Is the thinking just that it is some how 'cool' or hep to vote for a black president. Or do people generally feel somehow better about themselves if they support and prejudiced if they do not support him. Do a majority of americans 'really' support 'gay marriage'? What do you think?
The Republicans missed the boat again,they did not spend the last 4 years probing into the MINDSET of the Hispanic people,who are not just Mexicans coming across the border,but a people that have a strong Catholic tradition,and are industrious and so on.

The Republicans have to not say everything they feel,because in the long run they are going to alienate the very people who will tear them down.I realize that the gays are wanting same-sex unions,but Republicans should rather enhance the fact that gays already have CIVIL unions,and they support their right to them.But than again 4-gvn,dealing with the whole gay issue is so detrimental to the health of this country in the long run.

Women specifically single ones,are on a (give-me) contraceptives,and Republicans just need to tell them they already can afford them,why are you asking the government for help to secure them.We just need to tell the public that we do not promote the attack on religious freedom not to sell contraceptives.Again those women are as bad as the gays in their obsession to defy society norms and get their way.

Evangelicals failed the Republicans as stated so many did not even vote,but were registered to.Well the churches made it a point this election to keep quiet about politics,and they have that right.But Evangelicals need to stop expecting some glorious man of God to get on the political platform and lead us all to a utopian Christian country.It is not going to happen,more than half the people in this country do not even go to church,what does that tell you?

If a man is a n American,he has respect for all facets of society,is pro-life,and wants to get this country back on its feet,and he is even an atheist,and running against the likes of Obama,he should have been considered.The fact that Romney was a Mormon,should have not been a factor,he made his platform clear and concise,evangelicals who did not vote for him on that premise alone were biased and showing an ignorance which now has us in a worse situation than ever.We have yet to see even in the coming months,not years what Obama and his Czars are going to do to this country.

Already we see regulations on the rise,and lands being prohibited by this administration for obtaining fuels for consumption,and alleviating our dependence on Arab and Venezuelan oil. Oh Yeah,Obama is goint ot watch China,and he will be on the front seat watching them demand payments on their loans,we cannot return with interest.

Scandals are coming fast and furious,even the networks(CNN) are getting on the band wagon of exposing the Generals on the Internet.As long as Obama is not in the limelight now,he is happy to see Patreaus face the public humiliation.But than again Patreaus must be subpeoned,not one excuse to keep him from the inquiry.

God only knows how deceitful the polling centers were,7th day wants to see that youtube again to the flawed voting machines subtracting and adding the opposite of what was voted for.We all want to know!But probably never will.

Hal Lindsey who wrote "Late great planet earth" years ago,recently on Daystar spoke about his concerns for America with the re-election of Obama.He minces no words as to the fact that he predicted decades ago that America will cease to be the nation of hope,so that the European Union will rise to confront all institutions of MEN,and launch the power to support the anti-Christ!
Pad

Rockford, IL

#401975 Nov 13, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Old G, your rant above is so filled with falsehoods about the Catholic Church, I wouldn't know where to begin. Once again, I'm assured that if the Catholic Church isn't the true Church, then definitely whatever you believe is NOT. Lies are from Satan. So I'm not sure why you'd make it your M.O to spread lies.
A true Christian would ask another group what they actually believe before they preach about em.
You are the laughing stock of this forum brother. A very odd Ideologue who somehow thinks he is a Deacon. Goodness gracious.
I just ordained myself a Deacon too. Now Im an authority on Christianity so I rebut you!! Lol.
That list he did not make up,so how is that all lies Clay?He took the list from sources of history and information gathering,how can you say that it is all lies?
Pad

Rockford, IL

#401976 Nov 13, 2012
P e t r a e u s, not the way I spelt it, sorry!

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#401977 Nov 13, 2012
OldJG wrote:
ANYONE....EVEN PR....N.
Can someone explain how a person can lose their salvation? Please provide a Biblical account and the specific name or names of those who lost the salvation they truly received.
The Bible tells us what we must do to be saved:
Acts 16:30-31, "And he brought them out and said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" 31 So they said, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household."
The Bible is crystal clear when it describes what we must do to be saved. Knowing exactly what is required to be saved, wouldn't the Bible provide the same clarity by describing how the saved can be unsaved?
Where does the Bible tell us what we must do to be UNsaved?
Jesus does tell us that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven and john tells us that there is a sin onto death, but he doesn't elaborate.

moral of the story: yield yourself to the Holy Spirit!
guest

United States

#401978 Nov 13, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
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Yes you do.
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You say you don't, but you do.
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Rob
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confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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QUESTION
CAN YOU TELL ME HOW A PERSON IS SUPPOSED TO SEPARATE GOD.
FROM HIS WORD...
THE BIBLE SAYS
THAT JESUS
AND
THE SPOKEN WORD OF GOD
ARE ONE AND THE SAME...
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Joh_1:14
==> And the Word was made flesh,
and dwelt among us,<==
(and we beheld his glory,
the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)
full of grace and truth.
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Liken it to abortion.
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They ABORTED the Word of God from their worship so they could set the Pope up as authority.... starting with, "Call no man your Father."
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They took those words from Jesus' mouth and stomped all over them and so defied his words. They DEFIED JESUS' words so they could do as they pleased and feel 'sane' about it, as they accuse Christians of "worshiping the Bible."
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They have forced themselves to think like this because if they actually read the Word of God and did as it says, they would be in spiritual meltdown - and they can't handle that, because they would find the truth and they can't handle the truth.
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I guess they don't WANT the truth.
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Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
Call no man your father .....
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Jesus said that for a reason! And I think the reason was .. for anyone who can see it, to STAY AWAY FROM any church that insists on their leaders being called "FATHER".
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Yes, Jesus said it for a reason and that is to have an 'easy' marker of what is NOT the true church. IOW ....*IF* YOUR CHURCH IS DOING THIS, they cannot be the true church. Period.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#401979 Nov 13, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Go back, if we love Jesus it's because He loved us first and gave His perfect life to pay for the price of our sins.
Then we recieve His life giving Spirit because we believe the above.
This is a Gift.
Then with His commands written on our hearts and His Spirit inside us we can obey Him.
No need to go back anywhere. I agree Jesus loved us first. I agree it's a gift. Jesus said if we love Him we will obey Him. But you haven't answered my question; why do you think you're better at determining Jesus's commands than someone else?
preston

Waverly, OH

#401980 Nov 13, 2012
OldJG wrote:
Has OldJG ever taken the Lord's name in vain on this forum? Yes or No? If anyone would say yes please provide the post #.
you will be judged on the sins that you have committed, NOT THE ONES THAT YOU HAVENT.

and your filthy mouth is very much in evidence on this forum, and i must apologize, several did comment on that flthy mouth of YOUR and I do apologize to them
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#401981 Nov 13, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
First thing you must receive the free gift of Salvation.
Then you are Saved.
Then you can love Him back by doing the good things he planned for us long ago.
Ok. What if someone says they are saved, but think that the "good things" being done in other denominations by saved people aren't necessary? Who decides?
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#401982 Nov 13, 2012
marge wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, but you do these out of love not requirement, and only after your SAVED... Not to be Saved.
Being Saved is a Gift from God.
Agreed. As Jesus said, we'll do them if we love Him. What if two saved people disagree on what those commandments are?
preston

Waverly, OH

#401983 Nov 13, 2012
Pad wrote:
<quoted text>Guess what? Billy Graham warned President Kennedy emphatically not to go to Dallas on political tour. We know what happened,but many do not know that Billy Graham,urgently warned Pres.Kennedy to not go to Dallas.
I have always found in your psoss that somewhere in there is a kernal of untruth.

we find it on this post.

Billy Graham, the well-known evangelist, said that he tried to reach JFK by phone before he left for Dallas.

"I had the strongest premonition that he should not go to Texas," the preacher later told newsmen
AFTER THE FACT!!! SHOOT, EVEN ORVILLE COULD BE PROVEN A PROPHET AFTER THE FACTS.

HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20-20

In October 1963, Jeane Dixon claimed that she had foreseen President Kennedy's death in office

http://www.viemagique.com/voyance/proph%C3%A9...
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#401984 Nov 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Judge...not at all...
Just someone with some common sense...which you are lacking!!!
Really, and are you then judging me? You must be very lonly. I notice that your input on here is similar to a little chiwawa, just waiting for the next car to come by so he can bark and show how big he is. But no one seems to post back to you. You are a sad little minion.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#401985 Nov 13, 2012
charles wrote:
<quoted text>
and this contradicts Eph 2:8
you sure you aren't a catholic???
I don't think he is anything. But if he is he is to ashamed of it to admit it. He is mostly just Presto's little 'Minion.' Rally not even honest enough to warrant a response.
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#401986 Nov 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>Well, that is called an opinion, and everybody has one. But you didn't answer the question. Did Paul and Silas tell him what he must do to be saved? Yes or no?
Yes, St. Paul told him to believe and he will be saved. However, St. Paul's idea of "believing", as supported by his substantial preaching on the matter, is different than what you and the OSASers think "believing" is.

I've tried to get some others to explain what belief means to them. Can you tell me what it means to you? Is loving Jesus part of your believing in Him?
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#401987 Nov 13, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, 4gvn has a potty mouth....
Can't believe people will go along with this person....
But you would gladly go along with someone who would desire for God to cast Billy Grahm to hell. You are a pitiful,mindless follower of the devil.
preston

Waverly, OH

#401988 Nov 13, 2012
4GVN wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think he is anything. But if he is he is to ashamed of it to admit it. He is mostly just Presto's little 'Minion.' Rally not even honest enough to warrant a response.
ON THE DOCTRINE OF osas, HE AND i AGREE, on other issues, we have strongly disagreed. which is why chuck had to bring up denomination into the thread.

when you cant win , divert.

or in your case, when you cant win, like you did with John. issue a dirty sexual invitation.

oldjg learned his lessons well while watching YOU!

PS, dont forget, you cant answer me back or you are committing sin by lying.LOL
Anthony MN

Minneapolis, MN

#401989 Nov 13, 2012
Free Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe most faiths have something to offer.
You are the one who claims a degree of perfection. When such a bold claim is made, it invites scrutiny of the claim.
A close inspection of history and real world facts reveals the absurdity of the claim.
A statement of faith, OK. But when you argue this (or any) faith as fact, then you have a problem.
You are mixing what the Church teaches vs. the fact that there is sin in the Church. Admittedly there were/are a lot of bad players in the CC. It reminds me of Jesus telling the Jews to listen to what the pharisees teach, but don't necessarily follow the bad one's example.

I believe the Catholic Church teaches perfection because she teaches what the perfect teacher teaches. The prefect teacher said there no perfect people.
4GVN

Wentzville, MO

#401990 Nov 13, 2012
What could be more evil, and unGodly than asking that God would send someone to hell? Pray for him if you disagree. Ask God to change his heart. These might be things that a christian would do. But what Presto did is as unGodly and unchristian and full of hate as can be done. And yet He continually judges others and continually brings up anything he can to condemn. HERE is Preston's post....... You be the judge.........."" "graham ought tokeep his nose out of politics and I will never forgive him""".

"May God find him a nice quite out of the way place in a hot community. where the sun never shines." ..........

NOW UNTRUTH, the question is how ccould anyone follow or give thiere alligience to a person like this???

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