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“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 55:11--"MATT 10:27"

#398828 Oct 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
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I see no support from Scripture on the following:
You see no support for all the myths about Mary ..(the Mother of Jesus)
because none is there...just as there is no support in the Bible
FOR
Peter being the first pope....
papal succession,...
communication with the dead Saints.
transubstantiation...
extreme unction...
confessional booths...
saying the rosary...
baptism of babies...
the use and presence of statues, idols and icons...in worship.
Sundry other fables that have been invented...that destroys the simplistic plan of redemption as set forth in the Bible
which example is...
Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
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Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven?(that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep?(that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Another example of one receiving salvation ...sans the fables of the Roman Catholic church is

Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

Why all these unnecessary calisthenics been added ..

TO GOD'S SIMPLISTIC PLAN OF SALVATION/redemption ....IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION..

Men that require more than God does... are playing God themselves....

the have become a part of the problem

as apposed to being a part OF the

solution...TO MANS NEED OF A SAVIOR FOR FORGIVENESS OF SINS...

WHICH IS GIVEN FREELY AND SIMPLISTICALLY BY THE HOLY SPIRIT IN GOD'S

HOLY INSPIRED WORD.
Orville

Portland, OR

#398829 Oct 28, 2012
The Word of God Became Incarnate

We learn from various Scriptures that the Bible is more than just a book, it is a person.“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD”(John 1:1).“And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”(John 1:14).

Jesus the Holy Christ, is the LIVING WORD, the Bible is the WRITTEN WORD.

Jesus is the Word of God.“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD”(Revelation 19:13).

Let me say, to spend time with God’s Word is to spend time with God. If we obey the Bible, we are obeying God. If we don’t believe the Bible, we are denying Holy God-Jesus.









Jesus is the Word of God.“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD”(Revelation 19:13).

Since: Nov 08

usa

#398830 Oct 28, 2012
funny i post historical facts that proves the church wrong on apostolic succession,and no one tries to prove mre wrong,it's as if all catholics run and hide in fear to speak against the church.

Since: Nov 08

usa

#398831 Oct 28, 2012
so far 15 people have died from this east coast storm,how come god did not direct this storm out to sea and save these people??

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#398832 Oct 28, 2012
Orville wrote:
The Word of God Became Incarnate
We learn from various Scriptures that the Bible is more than just a book, it is a person.“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD”(John 1:1).“And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us,(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth”(John 1:14).
Jesus the Holy Christ, is the LIVING WORD, the Bible is the WRITTEN WORD.
Jesus is the Word of God.“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD”(Revelation 19:13).
Let me say, to spend time with God’s Word is to spend time with God. If we obey the Bible, we are obeying God. If we don’t believe the Bible, we are denying Holy God-Jesus.
Jesus is the Word of God.“And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called THE WORD OF GOD”(Revelation 19:13).
good friend

Here is a problem.... You write, " We learn from various Scriptures that the Bible is more than just a book, it is a person."

First, what scriptures tell us the Bible is a person?

Second, You appear to be putting the Bible as being the equivalent to God. This would be breaking the 1st of the 10 Commandments, and is called idolatry.

If scripture is inspired is one thing, but making it equivalent to being the person of Jesus is another....

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#398833 Oct 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
<quoted text>
~~~
I see no support from Scripture on the following:
You see no support for all the myths about Mary ..(the Mother of Jesus)
because none is there...just as there is no support in the Bible
FOR
Peter being the first pope....
papal succession,...
communication with the dead Saints.
transubstantiation...
extreme unction...
confessional booths...
saying the rosary...
baptism of babies...
the use and presence of statues, idols and icons...in worship.
Sundry other fables that have been invented...that destroys the simplistic plan of redemption as set forth in the Bible
which example is...
Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
----
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven?(that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep?(that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
good friend

Do you think Jesus and the Apostles talked about spiritual things that were not in the Bible?

Second question. Do you think the Bible is enough for salvation?
Fr Robert Dye

Muskogee, OK

#398834 Oct 28, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert,
Holy God already had mercy upon Alberto Rivera's life. During his life he had ample opportunity to submit to God's Hooly Christ-Jesus. Thats it brother. This is it brother, here & know. This is the trial. Once we pass from here, trial ends. Man is either saved by the Holy Christ in that person. or not.
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My Lord and God is The Holy Trinity.
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He does what He chooses. And He can do whatsoever He chooses.
.
Your god (the scriptures?) has some things that are beyond its power to decide. It is bound and limited by yourrules, and therefore not omnipotent.
.
Rob
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#398835 Oct 28, 2012
2 Timothy 2 -

Be Strong in the Grace of Christ

1You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

2And the things that you have heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

3You therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

..........>
4No man that wars entangles himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who has chosen him to be a soldier <..........

5And if a man also competes as an athlete, yet is he not crowned, unless he strives lawfully.

6The farmer that labors must be first partaker of the fruits.

7Consider what I say; and the Lord give you understanding in all things.

8Remember that Jesus Christ, descended from David, was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

9In which I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

10Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

11It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

12If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

13If we believe not, yet he abides faithful: he cannot deny himself.
preston

Waverly, OH

#398836 Oct 28, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
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My Lord and God is The Holy Trinity.
.
He does what He chooses. And He can do whatsoever He chooses.
.
Your god (the scriptures?) has some things that are beyond its power to decide. It is bound and limited by yourrules, and therefore not omnipotent.
.
Rob
just wanna let you know that I beleive that youa re abig hypocrite,

you SAID NOT ONE WORD ABOUT DISCIPLE CALLING ME A "BEAST", YET YOUR MOUTH WAS REALLY BIG WHEN I WAS TEASING HIM ABOUT BEING A WET BACK,

especially since I have known him for 4 and 1/2 years and knew that he isnt.

you are just mad because I called you a filthy drunk.lol

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#398837 Oct 28, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct. I do not know why? Other than it ios satanic .
Many people are scared of the Bible. The Bible scares many people because it demands an answer. Everyone must decide whether or not there is a Hell, a Heaven, a God, a Devil, eternal damnation, life beyond the grave, et cetera. Every single human being must decide these things. The Bible is a constant reminder that time is running out. You cannot read and familiarize yourself with the Bible without being convicted by the Holy Spirit of God for He is the Divine Author. John 3:20 tells us why many people avoid the Bible,“For every one that DOETH EVIL hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, LEST HIS DEEDS SHOULD BE REPROVED.
The Bible-GOD, is a book of conviction. Many people will lose their eternal salvation because of their love for sin, because they refuse to admit that they’re ways are sinful. You see my friend, you can’t get saved until you admit that you’re a sinner, deserving of Hell. or they go to pay for their sins in PURGATORY. IE: "I am above Jesus".
If one is not willing to confess sins by admitting your wicked ways to yourself first and then to God, then you don’t need a Savior. Many people will not be honest with themselves. If there’s no crime, then there’s no punishment.
good friend

Again, you are making "Bible-GOD is a book of conviction. That makes the two equivalent....Idolatry.

Rather it is Jesus speaking about conviction in John 16....It is the "Comforter", the Holy Spirit that convicts....verse 8-11

"...he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

Of sin, because they believe not on me;

Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged."

Don't make Jesus into being the Bible is all I am trying to say....
guest

United States

#398838 Oct 28, 2012
marge wrote:
The church is wrong if they teach outside the Bible. Think of the Bereans, they searched the Scriptures to see if Paul(the church)was telling the Truth.
And Clay, all of us born-agains here were saved by Faith alone, a gift from God, not from works. First thing one must do to be part of the True Church.
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Clay wrote:
"The Church is wrong if they teach outside the Bible"
Who's interpretations of the Bible? Yours?
Get real.
The Catholic Church does not teach differently than the Bible.
The Church and the Bible flow together in harmony. Neither one cancels out the other. Neither one contradicts the other.
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HARMONY? FLOW TOGETHER?
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They flow PARALLEL ... NEVER MEETING - they are diametrically opposed!
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OR EXPLAIN TO ME:
The inquisition?
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IF you can explain to me how the inquisition is in HARMONY with the Bible, I will rejoin the Catholic Church.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#398839 Oct 28, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
funny i post historical facts that proves the church wrong on apostolic succession,and no one tries to prove mre wrong,it's as if all catholics run and hide in fear to speak against the church.
The Unbroken Line of Popes
Tracing All The Way Back To St. Peter...

The Unbroken Line of Popes Throughout the Ages:

It is by far the longest continuous line of succession of any religious institution on earth.
By the time that the last book of the Bible (Revelation) was written, the Catholic Church was already on its fifth Pope.
St. Irenaeus listed the first 14 Popes in "Against Heresies", 3:3:3, 180 AD

* St. Peter (32-67), Matthew 16:18
* St. Linus (67-76), 2Timothy 4:21
* St. Anacletus (Cletus)(76-88)
* St. Clement I (88-97), Philippians 4:3
* St. Evaristus (97-105)
* St. Alexander I (105-115)
* St. Sixtus I (115-125)
* St. Telesphorus (125-136)
* St. Hyginus (136-140)
* St. Pius I (140-155)* St. Anicetus (155-166)
* St. Soter (166-175)
* St. Eleutherius (175-189)
* St. Victor I (189-199)
* St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
* St. Callistus I (217-22)
* St. Urban I (222-30)
* St. Pontain (230-35)
* St. Anterus (235-36)
* St. Fabian (236-50)
* St. Cornelius (251-53)
* St. Lucius I (253-54)
* St. Stephen I (254-257)
* St. Sixtus II (257-258)
* St. Dionysius (260-268)
* St. Felix I (269-274)
* St. Eutychian (275-283)
* St. Caius (283-296)
* St. Marcellinus (296-304)
* St. Marcellus I (308-309)
* St. Eusebius (April-August 309 or 310)
* St. Miltiades (311-14)
* St. Sylvester I (314-35)
* St. Marcus (January-October 336)
* St. Julius I (337-52)
* Liberius (352-66)
* St. Damasus I (366-83)
* St. Siricius (384-99)
* St. Anastasius I (399-401)
* St. Innocent I (401-17)
* St. Zosimus (417-18)
* St. Boniface I (418-22)
* St. Celestine I (422-32)
* St. Sixtus III (432-40)
* St. Leo I (the Great)(440-61)
* St. Hilarius (461-68)
* St. Simplicius (468-83)
* St. Felix III (II)(483-92)
* St. Gelasius I (492-96)
* Anastasius II (496-98)
* St. Symmachus (498-514)
* St. Hormisdas (514-23)
* St. John I (523-26)
* St. Felix IV (III)(526-30)
* Boniface II (530-32)
* John II (533-35)
* St. Agapetus I (535-36)
* St. Silverius (536-37)
* Vigilius (537-55)
* Pelagius I (556-61)
* John III (561-74)
* Benedict I (575-79)
* Pelagius II (579-90)
* St. Gregory I (the Great)(590-604)
* Sabinian (604-606)
* Boniface III (February-November 607)
* St. Boniface IV (608-15)
* St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I)(615-18)
* Boniface V (619-25)
* Honorius I (625-38)
* Severinus (May-August 640)
* John IV (640-42)
* Theodore I (642-49)
* St. Martin I (649-55)
* St. Eugene I (655-57)
* St. Vitalian (657-72)
* Adeodatus (II)(672-76)
* Donus (676-78)
* St. Agatho (678-81)
* St. Leo II (682-83)
* St. Benedict II (684-85)
* John V (685-86)
* Conon (686-87)
* St. Sergius I (687-701)
* John VI (701-05)
* John VII (705-07)
* Sisinnius (January-February 708)
* Constantine (708-15)
* St. Gregory II (715-31)
* St. Gregory III (731-41)
* St. Zachary (741-52)
* Stephen II (March 752)
* Stephen III (752-57)
* St. Paul I (757-67)
* Stephen IV (767-72)
* Adrian I (772-95)
* St. Leo III (795-816)
* Stephen V (816-17)
* St. Paschal I (817-24)
* Eugene II (824-27)
* Valentine (August-September 827)
* Gregory IV (827-44)
* Sergius II (844-47)
* St. Leo IV (847-55)
* Benedict III (855-58)
* St. Nicholas I (the Great)(858-67)
* Adrian II (867-72)
* John VIII (872-82)
* Marinus I (882-84)
* St. Adrian III (884-85)
* Stephen VI (885-91)
* Formosus (891-96)
* Boniface VI (April 896)
* Stephen VII (896-97)
* Romanus (August-November 897)
* Theodore II (November-December 897)
* John IX (898-900)
* Benedict IV (900-03)
* Leo V (July-December 903)
* Sergius III (904-11)
* Anastasius III (911-13)
* Lando (913-14)
* John X (914-28)
* Leo VI (May-December 928)
* Stephen VIII (929-31)
* John XI (931-35)
* Leo VII (936-39)
* Stephen IX (939-42)
* Marinus II (942-46)
* Agapetus II (946-55)
* John XII (955-63)
* Leo VIII (963-64)
* Benedict V (May-June 964)
guest

United States

#398841 Oct 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
The Unbroken Line of Popes
Tracing All The Way Back To St. Peter...
The Unbroken Line of Popes Throughout the Ages:
It is by far the longest continuous line of succession of any religious institution on earth.
By the time that the last book of the Bible (Revelation) was written, the Catholic Church was already on its fifth Pope.
St. Irenaeus listed the first 14 Popes in "Against Heresies", 3:3:3, 180 AD
* St. Peter (32-67), Matthew 16:18
* St. Linus (67-76), 2Timothy 4:21
* St. Anacletus (Cletus)(76-88)
* St. Clement I (88-97), Philippians 4:3
* St. Evaristus (97-105)
* St. Alexander I (105-115)
* St. Sixtus I (115-125)
* St. Telesphorus (125-136)
* St. Hyginus (136-140)
* St. Pius I (140-155)
* St. Anicetus (155-166)
* St. Soter (166-175)
* St. Eleutherius (175-189)
* St. Victor I (189-199)
* St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
* St. Callistus I (217-22)
* St. Urban I (222-30)
* St. Pontain (230-35)
* St. Anterus (235-36)
* St. Fabian (236-50)
* St. Cornelius (251-53)
* St. Lucius I (253-54)
* St. Stephen I (254-257)
* St. Sixtus II (257-258)
* St. Dionysius (260-268)
* St. Felix I (269-274)
* St. Eutychian (275-283)
* St. Caius (283-296)
* St. Marcellinus (296-304)
* St. Marcellus I (308-309)
* St. Eusebius (April-August 309 or 310)
* St. Miltiades (311-14)
* St. Sylvester I (314-35)
* St. Marcus (January-October 336)
* St. Julius I (337-52)
* Liberius (352-66)
* St. Damasus I (366-83)
* St. Siricius (384-99)
* St. Anastasius I (399-401)
* St. Innocent I (401-17)
* St. Zosimus (417-18)
* St. Boniface I (418-22)
* St. Celestine I (422-32)
* St. Sixtus III (432-40)
* St. Leo I (the Great)(440-61)
* St. Hilarius (461-68)
* St. Simplicius (468-83)
* St. Felix III (II)(483-92)
* St. Gelasius I (492-96)
* Anastasius II (496-98)
* St. Symmachus (498-514)
* St. Hormisdas (514-23)
* St. John I (523-26)
* St. Felix IV (III)(526-30)
* Boniface II (530-32)
* John II (533-35)
* St. Agapetus I (535-36)
* St. Silverius (536-37)
* Vigilius (537-55)
* Pelagius I (556-61)
* John III (561-74)
* Benedict I (575-79)
* Pelagius II (579-90)
* St. Gregory I (the Great)(590-604)
* Sabinian (604-606)
* Boniface III (February-November 607)
* St. Boniface IV (608-15)
* St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I)(615-18)
* Boniface V (619-25)
* Honorius I (625-38)
* Severinus (May-August 640)
* John IV (640-42)
* Theodore I (642-49)
* St. Martin I (649-55)
* St. Eugene I (655-57)
* St. Vitalian (657-72)
* Adeodatus (II)(672-76)
* Donus (676-78)
* St. Agatho (678-81)
* St. Leo II (682-83)
* St. Benedict II (684-85)
* John V (685-86)
* Conon (686-87)
* St. Sergius I (687-701)
* John VI (701-05)
* John VII (705-07)
* Sisinnius (January-February 708)
* Constantine (708-15)
* St. Gregory II (715-31)
* St. Gregory III (731-41)
* St. Zachary (741-52)
* Stephen II (March 752)
* Stephen III (752-57)
* St. Paul I (757-67)
* Stephen IV (767-72)
* Adrian I (772-95)
* St. Leo III (795-816)
* Stephen V (816-17)
* St. Paschal I (817-24)
* Eugene II (824-27)
* Valentine (August-September 827)
* Gregory IV (827-44)
* Sergius II (844-47)
* St. Leo IV (847-55)
* Benedict III (855-58)
* St. Nicholas I (the Great)(858-67)
* Adrian II (867-72)
* John VIII (872-82)
* Marinus I (882-84)
* St. Adrian III (884-85)
* Stephen VI (885-91)
* Formosus (891-96)
* Boniface VI (April 896)
* Stephen VII (896-97)
* Romanus (August-November 897)
* Theodore II (November-December 897)
* John IX (898-900)
* Benedict IV (900-03)
* Leo V (July-December 903)
* Sergius III (904-11)
* Anastasius III (911-13)
* Lando (913-14)
* John X (914-28)
* Leo VI (May-December 928)
* Stephen VIII (929-31)
* John XI (931-35)
* Leo VII (936-39)
* Stephen IX (939-42)
* Marinus II (942-46)
* Agapetus II (946-55)
* John XII (955-63)
* Leo VIII (963-64)
* Benedict V (May-June 964)
except that Peter was not a pope.

and some sold the papacy

and some murdered to gain power of the papacy

and some had kids

and some raped little boys

and some ordered torture and murder of heretics

some list you got there!
MICHAEL

Hamilton, Canada

#398842 Oct 28, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>agenda was part of it i'm sure but for the most part as stated in another post constantine had a vast empire so he had to try and keep everyone happy,so he did so by combining the two religions,and the newly formed church used fear tatics,inprisonment,torture,an d murders to get people to follow the new pagan/christian church (catholoic).if you did not you were labeled an heretic,and punished,and they saw they can profit from this new church,one of the first things they did was sell splinters of wood claiming they came from jesus' cross,which was never proven to be true.
I take everything with a grain of salt.

No one has any first hand evidence of what happened or what was written down 2,000 years ago was truthful or accurate. We can't verify that the names associated with the 4 gospels were the actual characters who wrote them.

We know today that over mankinds history there have been more fraudsters than truthful people, more fake art work than originals, more characters that claimed their writings to be non-fiction yet find out they were fiction, and EVERYONE!! during their life tells lies.

Without Constantine, the sects of christianity would have fought each other until all disappeared. Constantine should be the catholic hero, a pagan turned christian as we are told.

Interesting that all the scriptures were suppose to have been inspired by God yet the early catholic fathers threw out and burned more than they kept. Did they not fit THEIR agenada?









Pad

Rockford, IL

#398843 Oct 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
I "canned the crap" when I left the Protestant bible only (half-truth, half-heresy Christianity and became a TRUE follower of Jesus Christ (in and through) HIS One True Apostolic Catholic Church.
Yes hojo,you joined the only church that follows one man called a Pope.The only church that has cluttered its buildings with statues that are quite advantageous to the economy of your only church.

Yes hojo,the only church you belong to has forced an issue of celibacy on its clergy for centuries,and intends on doing so,which is not biblical,nor even remotely Jewish.

Your only church has placed the Mother of our Lord on a pedestal she would never place herself on,yet the apparitions all claim that Mary wants obesiance,and a form of worship or praise,of course is not for God.

Your only church has for centuries laid a heavy load of rules and canon laws on its people,so much so,that its people were more concerned about following those rules and laws,than learning about Grace,and what they have inherited in Christ.

Your only church has a system of canonizing men and women to be "Saints",when the Bible has called all believers the saints of God.

For years and years your only church discouraged individual study of the Bible.Treating individuals as incapable of receiving the truth from prayer and study of God's Word.Only priests could give the right interpretation of the Word.Many of your people found out that the only church deprived them of a spiritual treasure God intends for every believer to have.

Many of your only church people fell prey to the cults because they did not know the Word of God,the Bibles were placed in respectful places in their homes,but many were never opened and read.The Cults claim many Catholic converts and that is not a lie,especially amongst the Jehovah Witnesses.

Your only church has just in the last 30 years tried to change the atmosphere of their mass from a cold forum as it were to more personal expression,and that is because many Catholics complained that if and when they visited the prots,they found the atmosphere in those churches as engaging and warm.Even music has been borrowed from prots,as the Catholics had only their latin monotone music in the Mass, and music of litanies to Mary.

Your only church here in America has had to cool its jets on the worship of Mary,because the Prot majority thought, that is all Catholics did was to worship Mary.

Your only church has the darkest history of any Christian church.More Jews have been killed and expelled from Catholic countries than from any other including the Muslim countries.

hojo,enjoy your only church it is by your choice that you go to it,and although you have the right to go there,you insult in every post non-Catholic Christians by calling us heretics,sola crapola and so on.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#398844 Oct 28, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
The Unbroken Line of Popes
Tracing All The Way Back To St. Peter...
The Unbroken Line of Popes Throughout the Ages:
It is by far the longest continuous line of succession of any religious institution on earth.
By the time that the last book of the Bible (Revelation) was written, the Catholic Church was already on its fifth Pope.
St. Irenaeus listed the first 14 Popes in "Against Heresies", 3:3:3, 180 AD
* St. Peter (32-67), Matthew 16:18
* St. Linus (67-76), 2Timothy 4:21
* St. Anacletus (Cletus)(76-88)
* St. Clement I (88-97), Philippians 4:3
* St. Evaristus (97-105)
* St. Alexander I (105-115)
* St. Sixtus I (115-125)
* St. Telesphorus (125-136)
* St. Hyginus (136-140)
* St. Pius I (140-155)* St. Anicetus (155-166)
* St. Soter (166-175)
* St. Eleutherius (175-189)
* St. Victor I (189-199)
* St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
* St. Callistus I (217-22)
* St. Urban I (222-30)
* St. Pontain (230-35)
* St. Anterus (235-36)
* St. Fabian (236-50)
* St. Cornelius (251-53)
* St. Lucius I (253-54)
* St. Stephen I (254-257)
* St. Sixtus II (257-258)
* St. Dionysius (260-268)
* St. Felix I (269-274)
* St. Eutychian (275-283)
* St. Caius (283-296)
* St. Marcellinus (296-304)
* St. Marcellus I (308-309)
* St. Eusebius (April-August 309 or 310)
* St. Miltiades (311-14)
* St. Sylvester I (314-35)
* St. Marcus (January-October 336)
* St. Julius I (337-52)
* Liberius (352-66)
* St. Damasus I (366-83)
* St. Siricius (384-99)
* St. Anastasius I (399-401)
* St. Innocent I (401-17)
* St. Zosimus (417-18)
* St. Boniface I (418-22)
* St. Celestine I (422-32)
* St. Sixtus III (432-40)
* St. Leo I (the Great)(440-61)
* St. Hilarius (461-68)
* St. Simplicius (468-83)
* St. Felix III (II)(483-92)
* St. Gelasius I (492-96)
* Anastasius II (496-98)
* St. Symmachus (498-514)
* St. Hormisdas (514-23)
* St. John I (523-26)
* St. Felix IV (III)(526-30)
* Boniface II (530-32)
* John II (533-35)
* St. Agapetus I (535-36)
* St. Silverius (536-37)
* Vigilius (537-55)
* Pelagius I (556-61)
* John III (561-74)
* Benedict I (575-79)
* Pelagius II (579-90)
* St. Gregory I (the Great)(590-604)
* Sabinian (604-606)
* Boniface III (February-November 607)
* St. Boniface IV (608-15)
* St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I)(615-18)
* Boniface V (619-25)
* Honorius I (625-38)
* Severinus (May-August 640)
* John IV (640-42)
* Theodore I (642-49)
* St. Martin I (649-55)
* St. Eugene I (655-57)
* St. Vitalian (657-72)
* Adeodatus (II)(672-76)
* Donus (676-78)
* St. Agatho (678-81)
* St. Leo II (682-83)
* St. Benedict II (684-85)
* John V (685-86)
* Conon (686-87)
* St. Sergius I (687-701)
* John VI (701-05)
* John VII (705-07)
* Sisinnius (January-February 708)
* Constantine (708-15)
* St. Gregory II (715-31)
* St. Gregory III (731-41)
* St. Zachary (741-52)
* Stephen II (March 752)
* Stephen III (752-57)
* St. Paul I (757-67)
* Stephen IV (767-72)
* Adrian I (772-95)
* St. Leo III (795-816)
* Stephen V (816-17)
* St. Paschal I (817-24)
* Eugene II (824-27)
* Valentine (August-September 827)
* Gregory IV (827-44)
* Sergius II (844-47)
* St. Leo IV (847-55)
* Benedict III (855-58)
* St. Nicholas I (the Great)(858-67)
* Adrian II (867-72)
* John VIII (872-82)
* Marinus I (882-84)
* St. Adrian III (884-85)
* Stephen VI (885-91)
* Formosus (891-96)
* Boniface VI (April 896)
* Stephen VII (896-97)
* Romanus (August-November 897)
* Theodore II (November-December 897)
* John IX (898-900)
* Benedict IV (900-03)
* Leo V (July-December 903)
* Sergius III (904-11)
* Anastasius III (911-13)
* Lando (913-14)
* John X (914-28)
* Leo VI (May-December 928)
* Stephen VIII (929-31)
* John XI (931-35)
* Leo VII (936-39)
* Stephen IX (939-42)
* Marinus II (942-46)
* Agapetus II (946-55)
* John XII (955-63)
* Leo VIII (963-64)
* Benedict V (May-June 964)
TELL that to the Orthodox.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#398845 Oct 28, 2012
Dust Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Just to clarify I meant to say Elizabeth referred to Mary as Mother of My Lord and My God "Adonia", because I know how the simpleton Protestants like to pick a singular thing and deflect from the point being made. I want to again thank the Protestants for bringing people to the Catholic Faith and showing your immense ignorance, hatred and unsurpassed ability to blather false witness and multiple doctrines unapolgetically and sparring with one another while maintaining in your delusional minds that you all believe the same. There is no greater witness that the Catholic Church is the true church and that you people are a massive collection of varied beliefs and are all in charge and there is no authority but you and what you think the bible says or may have meant inserting your own tradition and opinions. Sola Confusing.
I would take sola confusion anyday over being part of a church that has historically killed many of God's elect,and has caused countless numbers of Jews to reject the Messiah for centuries.

I would take some confusion on this earth,than to be part of a system that wants to dominate the Body of Christ so that it can control our spiritual lives,rather than to let the Holy Spirit to do it."Faithful is He who has called you who also will do it."Thessalonians.

Since I do not believe that most Christians are confused,I will continue to walk with brothers and sisters in Christ who take the Word of God seriously,and are willing to lay down their lives for both Christ and the brethren.

There is not one directive in the Word of God that calls us to believe that Mary is sinless,or that she was an ever-Virgin,or that she is even the Queen of Heaven.If you want to believe such that is your perogative,but non-Catholic Christians are NOT heretics because we do not adhere to such beliefs.
Pad

Rockford, IL

#398846 Oct 28, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
so far 15 people have died from this east coast storm,how come god did not direct this storm out to sea and save these people??
How come God did not take hitler and make him fall down a shaft so he could not be responsible for the deaths of millions of human beings?
guest

United States

#398847 Oct 28, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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I see no support from Scripture on the following:
You see no support for all the myths about Mary ..(the Mother of Jesus)
because none is there...just as there is no support in the Bible
FOR
Peter being the first pope....
papal succession,...
communication with the dead Saints.
transubstantiation...
extreme unction...
confessional booths...
saying the rosary...
baptism of babies...
the use and presence of statues, idols and icons...in worship.
Sundry other fables that have been invented...that destroys the simplistic plan of redemption as set forth in the Bible
which example is...
Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Act 16:32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.
Act 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.
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Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven?(that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep?(that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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Robert F wrote:
good friend
Do you think Jesus and the Apostles talked about spiritual things that were not in the Bible?
Second question. Do you think the Bible is enough for salvation?
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IF the Bible is NOT enough, we are all screwed.
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Have you ever played that game where you sit in a big circle and whisper in the next person's ear, and so on until it get back around to the first person?-- the message is nothing like what he first person said.
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This is what the oral 'tradition' of the Catholic Church gives us... NOTHING like what the Bible says.
Nothing at all.
And that's the way the Devil wants it. Coincidence? I think not.
It is NO coincidence that the Catholic Church is very different from the first century churches.
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and as for the Protestant churches?
ONE of them has to be right (or we are doomed)...but I won't stop looking 'til I find it.
period.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#398848 Oct 28, 2012
guest wrote:
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HARMONY? FLOW TOGETHER?
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They flow PARALLEL ... NEVER MEETING - they are diametrically opposed!
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OR EXPLAIN TO ME:
The inquisition?
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IF you can explain to me how the inquisition is in HARMONY with the Bible, I will rejoin the Catholic Church.
good friend

Titus 3:10
"A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject...."

I Timothy 1

" 18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme."

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