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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 641910 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#397460 Oct 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Noooo! I really hope he is ok. This would be a great time for all of us to unite in prayer for Herm and Sera.
I agree Clay!

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#397461 Oct 20, 2012
Daldug wrote:
I learned from the Second Vatican Council that pugatory no longer exists. When I asked my priest about this and showed the Catholic law in the handbook he told me that it is true. When I asked how soon was he going to tell the congreation he told me, "that to maintain the Glory of the chuch that he was not going to say anything". He followed up with "we have to let a generation or two die off before we admit the truth. We will have to teach this generation of children, but we will not teach the next generation." So all these people will burn in hell for the Glory of the church!
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Wonder where purgatory went to?

KayMarie
Loren Eberly

Sunbury, OH

#397462 Oct 20, 2012
Less than Quorum of Us the Government Votes:

The majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elected Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.

Elect Romney Ryan President and send every elected official that defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities Demands packing.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#397463 Oct 20, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Wonder where purgatory went to?
KayMarie
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It went to the same place that Limbo did...

Both are figments of the imagination...Roman Catholic fables that have never existed..as are the myths about Mary (the mother of Jesus), and the
witch craft of the worship of the dead saints...
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#397464 Oct 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
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Yeah... Say, what was it that You called the Blessed Mother again? Never mind, I don't care nor have time for radical Ideologue!
Thank you for bringing that up.

Blessed Mary -- a humble lady of the Bible is shamelessly used by your Church for ulterior motives.

Decades after Fatima, the RCC decides to release the "Second Secret," but only 2 months after Hitler had invaded Russia. Mussolini was surely pleased, because in the Second Secret, Mary demands the conversion of Russia, or another war (which is obviously WW2).

Shame on the RCC -- using After-The-Fact Revelation -- having Mary scare the faithful, and using her to further the cause of Mussolini and his great ally.

In the process, this humble lady Mary becomes a demanding XXXX -- I will no longer say out respect.

The most famous RCC "miracle" of all time has humble Mary saying:

"You have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If what I say to you is done, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. The war is going to end..... "

Then the RCC reports that at Fatima in 1917, Mary had threatened the world with WW2 (which had already begun by now) unless Russia is consecrated to "my Immaculate Heart," God's going to punish the world.(Over 50,000,000 would die, Communist Russia became even stronger.)

In late summer 1941, when this Second Secret was released by the RCC, it appeared as if Axis forces were on the verge of victory over Russia. Oops! How was the Vatican to know?

The bottom line is the RCC the Bible's greatest lady and turned her into a demanding, self-centered XXXXXXXXXXX XXXX.

SHAME ON THE RCC!!! SHAME ON CATHOLICS FOR NOT DEFENDING MARY. As to the topic of this board.....

BUSTED
Pad

Fishers, IN

#397465 Oct 20, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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...good friend
The basis of your point is that all have sinned, and we all carry sin(by original sin), and continue sinning....So lets be both general and specific....
So how does the Catholic prove the absence of something(like original sin)? They cannot. So there is no reason based on facts. No one can prove a negative....
So we are left to use reason elsewhere, indirectly...So lets reason together....
Did God create man and woman without sin? Yes....
Is it then possible that God can remove original sin by God's Grace? Yes says the Catholic....What about you?
If you answer yes, then it makes possible that Mary was born without sin. If no, then God's Grace is not sufficient to restore by Grace which was lost in original sin....
Robert F. your reasoning here is based on human assumption. Oh yes God can remove sin ,but He does it through the merits of His Son who laid down His life for all sinners.Mary is part of the human race,she is not some special sort of creation.Mary even more so is proof of the great salvation of our Lord in that she is the first human being to be saved by grace. We should not be thrown spiritually by the fact that Mary had to be redeemed as the rest of us,through the Blood of Christ.

The Bible does not give us one incling that Mary was born sinless,there is no need of such theology.Mary is special to God no doubt,but she fulfills His plan by also being a recipient of His grace to SAVE,through the Lord Jesus Christ.

The whole matter of Mary being born sinless points in a direction of she being a specially made (divine type) person to bare the Son of God in her holy body,she is not viewed as a normal woman of Jewish ancestry.The mounting veneration and glorious imaging of her speaks volumes as to the fact that in the human mind we cannot accept ultimately that Jesus was born of a natural normal woman born under the curse of Adam.Even stating with such vehemence that she remained a virgin till death,living like a nun with her husband,distorts the norms of life.

Mary being born the same as us all,choosing to live a holy separate life unto God by act of her will,was chosen by the Father to share in the Incarnation of His Son Jesus Christ.Mary most likely was absolved of sin at the Anunciation when the Angel Gabriel brought the wonderful news of the conception of our Lord into her womb.The Orthodox basically have it right there.

The ever-virginity in another issue really.

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#397466 Oct 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
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I don't want you knowingly spreading falsehoods about what Catholics believe. If you don't know, just ask. Then you can hate us for what we really believe instead of what you think we believe.(or wish we believed- so your bigotry would be justified)
1. The Apostles were given the authority to forgive sins in the name of Jesus Christ. They passed this authority to the next generation.
2. Jesus is the only mediator between God and man. Catholics do not bypass Him when we pray to Mary and the Saints. We here on this board will not bypass Jesus when we ask each other to pray for Herm.
Who are you praying to...

when you pray..

"Pray for us sinners now and in the time of out death"...

If I remember the first part of this...petition is

Hail Mary! full of grace
Free Mind

Eaton Park, FL

#397467 Oct 20, 2012
Sorry for the typos. But when defending Mary against shameless and false RCC reports, I type too fast.

Pad

Fishers, IN

#397468 Oct 20, 2012
Robert F wrote:
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My Answer is that;
Hope is an infused virtue because the kingdom of God is nigh(Luke 10:9)
Because God's kingdom exists, and actually then is nigh, virtues such as faith, hope, and love are infused by God.
Your point is going against the (entropic)direction. It is like the effects make the cause rather than cause makes effects...
Do I have to get all information and data from God in order to know, in order to have and opinion?
My Answer is:
If not, then some other process exists. In this world it is most often heard, which involves the process of thinking, but that is secondary, and since the mind is dubious, our opinions are "synthetic". This is why New Age Spiritualism is based on the "process" of which you write and in so doing, becomes dubious, because it involves collecting data(scriptures from all religions), which is processed by the mind....
Instead as I keep saying first comes faith (now I add) "established in the Will of God in heaven and earth", then come the virtues(spiritual and cardinal) of which knowledge(gnosis) might be added....
2 Peter 2 explains the direction....especially here with verse 5
"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;"
THANK YOU, brother! NASL asked me similar questions,he never gives his absolute view of Christ.
disciple

Murrieta, CA

#397469 Oct 20, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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So, in real words, you don't know.
It's OK to say that.
I won't think you're less of a Christian than I already do.
Don't worry I couldn't care less what a disturbed person thinks of me.
Pad

Fishers, IN

#397470 Oct 20, 2012
Clay wrote:
On this day in1469 a Catholic Bishop was born...John Fisher.
He would later be executed (beheaded) for being Catholic and refusing to submit to King Henry the 8th.
Along with Saint Thomas More, he refused to join a religion that was contrary to that of the Apostles (Protestantism), so he was promptly Martyrd.
Hear that Guest?
And how many martyrs did the RCC produce,that were not Roman Catholic? Your church went over the line in destroying people who did not agree with them,and the early reformers learned well and martyred some of yours.The Blood of many was shed over ideology,and the fear of heresy.But today more than ever Clay we have the W o r d of God,and it is a beakon of hope, for us all not to destroy one another over the sacred and wonderful truths of Christ.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#397471 Oct 20, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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I'm an Asian girl with freckles. Nuff said.
Kind of like Lucy Liu?!? And no one thinks that she is hot!
7th Day Catholics Rock

Poplar Bluff, MO

#397472 Oct 20, 2012
seraphima wrote:
Please pray for my Hermi.He was life flighted to Pittsburg Hospital and is in critical condition.
Prayers being sent.
hojo

Saint Paul, MN

#397473 Oct 20, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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It went to the same place that Limbo did...
Both are figments of the imagination...Roman Catholic fables that have never existed..as are the myths about Mary (the mother of Jesus), and the
witch craft of the worship of the dead saints...
What a bunch of anti-Catholic BS from you (AGAIN) Confrinting!!
Catholics don't worship Mary, NOR do they worship Saints NOR do they worship idols NOR do they worship statutes seen in the Church. You comments are "just more" of the same old "Bible Only" Protestant propaganda, that you are "so famous for" and that I listened to for over 35 years as a Protestant.-------That is ---until coming to the TRUTH of TRUE Apostolic Church History, along with TRUTH of what the Catholic Church --(ACTUALLY believes and teaches). TRUE Salvation IS ONLY in the Spoken words of Jesus Christ, in the TRUE INTERPRETATION of the bible which is professed in and through OUR LORDS-- One True Apostolic Catholic Church.---Confrinting--your anti-catholic comments are (as ever) filled with the same old distortion, lies and deceit------AND (with every comment) your words reveal how anti-catholic "desperate"you are!
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#397474 Oct 20, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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b-b-q'd?
jethro? Are you dying?
I'm going to die. It's what happens.
He not busy being born is busy dying.~ Bob Dylan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =pQ5XtabITh8XX
Bob Dylan - Man Gave Names to All the Animals Live 1980

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#397475 Oct 20, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

If this is your honesty being portrayed, then you still have a lot to learn.
Disciple wrote:
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Well at least you made half sense in this post.
I do have a lot to learn, but for sure not from your cult that follows a serpent.
The word of God contained in the Bible is where we all have to learn from, you included.
Stop the idiotic philosophical nonsense.
I can see you bypassed the "honesty comment.

I'll make a note of it for further discussions.

Why?

“" THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH!"”

Since: Jun 10

"ISA 53:1.--6 "MATT 10:27"

#397476 Oct 20, 2012
confrinting with the word wrote:
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Who are you praying to...
when you pray..
"Pray for us sinners now and in the time of out death"...
If I remember the first part of this...petition is
Hail Mary! full of grace
~~~

Jesus gave the pattern for prayers in .

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye:

NOTE THE PRAYER WAS DIRECTED TO THE HEAVENLY FATHER...

Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Mat 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.

Mat 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

JESUS DID NOT PARROT THE ABOVE PRAYER WHEN HE PRAYED "THE LORDS PRAYER IN

HIS PRAYER ADDRESSED THE FATHER..

Joh 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

AGAIN JESUS SAID
Joh 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing.

Verily, verily, I say unto you,

Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name,

he will give it you.

Joh 16:24 Hitherto

have ye asked nothing in my name:

ask, and ye shall receive,

that your joy may be full.

JESUS SAID NOTHING ABOUT PRAYING TO SAINTS...

HIS WORDS WERE...

Joh_16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

ACCORDING TO JESUS...
ALL PRAYERS.... ARE TO BE DIRECTED TO THE FATHER ...IN JESUS NAME.

Why do you Catholics ignore the words of Jesus...

___

You invent Patron saints and pray to them...

Does not God have angels... that fulfill the purpose... for which .

the Roman Catholic Church have conjured up patron saints?

ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INVENTED GOD, AND HE CANNOT DO ANY THING ON HIS OWN...

~~~

WHERE WERE YOU CATHOLICS WHEN GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH...

ANY WAY...

HOW IN THE WORLD DID HE ACCOMPLISH IT WITH OUT YOUR PAGAN INVENTIONS?
LTM

Geraldton, Canada

#397477 Oct 20, 2012
jethro8 wrote:
<quoted text>prove it,show us a picture of yourself without sun glasses,if you do not want to put it up on your profile you can send me a private picture which i will not share with anyone, unless you tell me other wise.
Jesus was God in the flesh,

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#397478 Oct 20, 2012
LTM wrote:
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Jesus was God in the flesh,
Is god alive?

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#397479 Oct 20, 2012
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
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New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

I disagree - because like another poster stated - religions are the reasons for many wars, murders, hatred, and abuse.

So you are saying, people should turn to religion ("might turn to religion"), when their society breaks down, instead of standing up and rebuilding?

Sounds like those individuals deserve what they get, if they think a book or an organization will help move them forward.

But wait, don't they have to make a choice to do this first?

Ah yes - that ol' Self is showing up again.

This is why I can't be a "Christian" - I just can't sit back and think that someone else will do the work for me (i.e. "God", some religious person).

I'll disagree again, and take responsibility and action on the behalf of you when it happens, as well, because it ounds like you will be with the group over there praying - while others are vigorously trying to better themselves and others.

You just sit back and read the Bible and see what good things will come of it, okay?

Really? Is this your stance?
Robert F wrote:
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good friend....
But isn't it the breakdown of society when religion is used( by individuals and the state) as a foundation/a springboard for wars, murders, hated, and abuse?
All of which reside in choice by men - Self. Thus, we again bring honesty into the picture. Are those men truly using religion or their own choice to overcome possibly a power that could weaken or destroy them?

Religion should be a personal issue - a spirituality about oneself - not a global one. Yet I do believe that if a personal spirituality could be attained, a global awareness of peace and prosperity can also be achieved. Unfortunately, this "utopian world is far from what we see presently and I will never live to see it flourish."
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>To my knowledge, religion preaches the opposite. In itself religion seeks to keep order, and a certain freedom is attained in that order....Those caught in the turmoil of society, and on the frontlines do their best to keep order and freedom, but much is lost in the fog of war....
An order that should be within ourselves.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>Virtue is its own reward....
Yes it is. No religion is required.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>Why would you condemn reading the Bible?


Besides the point that it was written by fallible men, changed over the years, and etc...etc??...I am not sure if anything of it is accurate as to the actual events - because it is incomplete and is just a stepping stone to other amazing things.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>Being a peacemaker one might be a little more sympathetic to the Bible readers....
I am - I tell the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts. Get over it, accept it, and move on to even better things.

Those who want to wiggle their way through lies and name calling and continue to relish in their own little hatred of a world, so be it, they will realize their faults one day. I hope they do.
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>I am a bit to old to go to war, and even do much , but instead do so interiorly.
"interiorly" - meaning within yourself? You should, because IMO that is where you will find the peace and grandeur of the world around you - not through some organization.

"To know yourself is to know the kingdom of God."

Choices we make do affect others, no matter how minute the choice results in.

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