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Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican

There are 681926 comments on the CBC News story from Jul 10, 2007, titled Roman Catholic church only true church, says Vatican. In it, CBC News reports that:

The VaticanA issued a document Tuesday restatingA its belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true church of Jesus Christ.

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Loren Eberly

Columbus, OH

#394290 Oct 6, 2012
Civilized American Men and Women:

Civilized men and women comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

The majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands. And holds Union workers, Women, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
Orville

Portland, OR

#394292 Oct 6, 2012
Loren Eberly wrote:
Civilized American Men and Women:
Civilized men and women comply with USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
The majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands. And holds Union workers, Women, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.


Perhaps know you now why John Kennedy was assinated.
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#394293 Oct 6, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>do you not understand that when jesus spoke to andrew and peter and uterred these words, they are PERSONAL.
Come and follow me. it doesnt get any personal than that, why have you harden your heart so as to what the Bible teaches?
when he spoke to the man in the tree, he told him to come down that He wanted to eat with him and that man began to follow Him. that was personal.
to insist that just because the word "Bible" is not in the Bible is rediculous and certainly is very infantile on the part of anyone who would try and use that as some justification in not beleiving everything the Bible teaches.
and please hojo, dont attack me with your barbed tongue, I am trying to reason and help you.
To begin with Preston, I read, follow, accept and adhere to the bible, to the teachings of Jesus Christ, which is Gods word (each and every day) at Daily Mass,the bible,the Eucharist (the TRUE body and blood of Christ) and in the Sacraments, and therefore---- for you to make a "ridiculous statement" that my heart is harden to what the bible teaches, only reveals the anti-catholic Protestant "blind ignorance" that has "possesed your OWN heart, mind and soul in bondage...... You, my friend as well as other bible only Protestants on this forum, continue to demonstrate that you have "no idea" as to what you are talking about. For over 35 years, as a bible only Protestant, I heard, listened and was indoctrinated into these anti-catholic "lies and distortions of the truth" which you and other Protestants on this forum have become "experts" at preaching. The fact is that it is YOU, Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, justachristian1, OLDJG and the rest of you bible only believers, that claim over and over again, that EVERYTHING, EVERY WORD, EVERY PHRASE EVERY SENTENCE ---MUST BE IN THE BIBLE in order for it to be TRUE. This is an invented, concocted, made-up Protestant "myth" that has absolutely "no biblical or historical truth to back it up!! It is a "fabricated "bible only" distortion of the truth!!
Fr Robert Dye

United States

#394294 Oct 6, 2012
Clay wrote:
<quoted text>
When did the rapture dogma - by protestants come to be? Its my understanding that no Christian group prior to the 'born agains' ever taught it. It seems to me, the Apostles surely would have taught something like this. Maybe you guys are reading into scripture the wrong way, if you can believe that!
It comes from Scofield, of the Scofield Reference Bible, and another preacher (Trent Darby?), I think.

They found an entirely new teaching in the scriptures, one that no one had ever noticed or referenced before.

Fortunately, as Protestants ONLY accept what is to be found in the Bible, and the word "rapture" is most certainly not there, all True Protestants reject it, by the exact same logic with which they reject the word "catholic" as describing Christ's Church.

I found a link to an interesting article about it, but I should give you a caveat that I have not read the entire article. The site looks like it mit be a lunatic fringe left site, so take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.opednews.com/seese050504_present_C...

Might be better to just Google "Scofield Darby," and browse through the links that come up.

If you want to get a really good flavor of the "Christian Torture-Porn" heart of the "Rapture" and its adherents, you might look into Hal Lindsey (not to be confused with the fine comic actor, Hal Linden), or the "Left Behind" series of books by LaHaye and Jenkins, and made into movies by A-list actor Kirk Cameron.

Rob
hojo

Minneapolis, MN

#394295 Oct 6, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Hojo, you simply refuse to beleive.
What I REFUSE to believe in Orville, is the distorting, manipulating and twisting of the TRUTH that is "in the bible" and things that you Protestant "make-up" claiming to be true.(THAT ARE NOT TRUE) If I am wrong, then please show me (book-chapter-verse) "where in the bible does it say, that every word, every phrase, every sentence MUST BE IN THE BIBLE in order for it to be true.. You bible only Protestants are the ones who make this claim!! WHERE IS IT!! as well as the answers to the other previous questions that I have asked!..... YOU "bible only" PROTESTANTS are the ones who base your entire "Protestant doctrine of beliefs" on this one premise! THEN SHOW US CATHOLICS!! Where is it!!!
preston

Athens, OH

#394296 Oct 6, 2012
hojo wrote:
<quoted text>
To begin with Preston, I read, follow, accept and adhere to the bible, to the teachings of Jesus Christ, which is Gods word (each and every day) at Daily Mass,the bible,the Eucharist (the TRUE body and blood of Christ) and in the Sacraments, and therefore---- for you to make a "ridiculous statement" that my heart is harden to what the bible teaches, only reveals the anti-catholic Protestant "blind ignorance" that has "possesed your OWN heart, mind and soul in bondage...... You, my friend as well as other bible only Protestants on this forum, continue to demonstrate that you have "no idea" as to what you are talking about. For over 35 years, as a bible only Protestant, I heard, listened and was indoctrinated into these anti-catholic "lies and distortions of the truth" which you and other Protestants on this forum have become "experts" at preaching. The fact is that it is YOU, Confrinting, Orville, 4GVN, justachristian1, OLDJG and the rest of you bible only believers, that claim over and over again, that EVERYTHING, EVERY WORD, EVERY PHRASE EVERY SENTENCE ---MUST BE IN THE BIBLE in order for it to be TRUE. This is an invented, concocted, made-up Protestant "myth" that has absolutely "no biblical or historical truth to back it up!! It is a "fabricated "bible only" distortion of the truth!!
hojo, I have not treid to speak mean to you in the few times that I ahve posted to you, and up to this post, you have never mentioned my name in conjunction with them. if I think that any of them have made a mistake I will and do speak up.

so in your statement just to me in this reply, that you feel that I have"no idea" as to what I am talking about, then produce evidence that I dont.
anytime that you wish to debate me or prove me wrong on anything that I said, you are more than welcome to ty it. I strongly encourage you to "bring it on".

your words are only that, they do not change His Word, and what you hear at your church doesnt make you knowledgable about teh Bible,

I unlike you read the bible myself and depend entirely on the Lord to guide me in His truths, not some pedophile or drunk priest who dont follow the Word themselves
preston

Athens, OH

#394297 Oct 6, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
It comes from Scofield, of the Scofield Reference Bible, and another preacher (Trent Darby?), I think.
They found an entirely new teaching in the scriptures, one that no one had ever noticed or referenced before.
Fortunately, as Protestants ONLY accept what is to be found in the Bible, and the word "rapture" is most certainly not there, all True Protestants reject it, by the exact same logic with which they reject the word "catholic" as describing Christ's Church.
I found a link to an interesting article about it, but I should give you a caveat that I have not read the entire article. The site looks like it mit be a lunatic fringe left site, so take it with a grain of salt.
http://www.opednews.com/seese050504_present_C...
Might be better to just Google "Scofield Darby," and browse through the links that come up.
If you want to get a really good flavor of the "Christian Torture-Porn" heart of the "Rapture" and its adherents, you might look into Hal Lindsey (not to be confused with the fine comic actor, Hal Linden), or the "Left Behind" series of books by LaHaye and Jenkins, and made into movies by A-list actor Kirk Cameron.
Rob
wow! I never realized that scofield or darby invented the words of Paul.

thanks for enlightening us.

guess that you learned that in the alcohol class 101.

I dont read lindsay nor do I ahve any aith in any thing that he says.

the Bible is clear that any a man says this will happen and it doesnt, have no fear of him,he is a false prophet(paraphrasing).

lindsay said this rapture would occur in 1988 , with his misunderstanding of the words of Jesus. and i do believe that you dont have a clue as to what words that I am referring to.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#394298 Oct 6, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Robert,
2 Chronicles 6:8-11
8 But the Lord said to my father David,‘You did well to have it in your heart to build a temple for my Name.
9 Nevertheless, you are not the one to build the temple, but your son, your own flesh and blood—he is the one who will build the temple for my Name.’
10 “The Lord has kept the promise he made. I have succeeded David my father and now I sit on the throne of Israel, just as the Lord promised, and I have built the temple for the Name of the Lord, the God of Israel.
11 There I have placed the ark, in which is the covenant of the Lord that he made with the people of Israel.”
1 Kings 8:27
27 “But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!
**********
Solomon, in his wisdom, realized that God could not literally be contained in a physical building.
Greetings Truth

What about a human body? Are they both not simply types of vessals that serve a purpose and when worn out are changed?
preston

Athens, OH

#394299 Oct 6, 2012
first Paul talked and wrote about this Rapture(even if the word isnt in the Bible).but the meaning as I said, is in the Bible in the original Greek

yet hojo and other catholics say that sola scripture in wrong, yet if we Christians used the thought of the Rapture, you attack us.

you people are two faced, no doubt about it..
Clay

Denver, CO

#394300 Oct 6, 2012
Fr Robert Dye wrote:
<quoted text>
It comes from Scofield, of the Scofield Reference Bible, and another preacher (Trent Darby?), I think.
They found an entirely new teaching in the scriptures, one that no one had ever noticed or referenced before.
Fortunately, as Protestants ONLY accept what is to be found in the Bible, and the word "rapture" is most certainly not there, all True Protestants reject it, by the exact same logic with which they reject the word "catholic" as describing Christ's Church.
I found a link to an interesting article about it, but I should give you a caveat that I have not read the entire article. The site looks like it mit be a lunatic fringe left site, so take it with a grain of salt.
http://www.opednews.com/seese050504_present_C...
Might be better to just Google "Scofield Darby," and browse through the links that come up.
If you want to get a really good flavor of the "Christian Torture-Porn" heart of the "Rapture" and its adherents, you might look into Hal Lindsey (not to be confused with the fine comic actor, Hal Linden), or the "Left Behind" series of books by LaHaye and Jenkins, and made into movies by A-list actor Kirk Cameron.
Rob
Thank you Father. I never paid much attention to it until that Harold Camping fellow put up billboards last yr announcing it.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#394301 Oct 6, 2012
preston wrote:
<quoted text>robert, I am not nor have I ever been your friend, I dont make friends with the devil and his minions, of which you are one.
old friend...,

lol....Are you trying to tell me something?

Cast any demons out lately?
preston

Athens, OH

#394302 Oct 6, 2012
Orville wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps know you now why John Kennedy was assinated.
because Joe Dimaggio was jealous of Marilyn Monroe,
and took out a contract on Jack with his italian friends?

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#394303 Oct 6, 2012
preston wrote:
after pentecost mary was never mentioned again, she became irrevelent, which is why no mention of her death or burial was needed.
a persons life is what is important not their death, with the exception of Jesus
old friend....

Sorry you don't think martyrs are important....
Clay

Denver, CO

#394304 Oct 6, 2012
preston wrote:
first Paul talked and wrote about this Rapture(even if the word isnt in the Bible).but the meaning as I said, is in the Bible in the original Greek
yet hojo and other catholics say that sola scripture in wrong, yet if we Christians used the thought of the Rapture, you attack us.
you people are two faced, no doubt about it..
Please explain it to us. I concur there are probably
Verses that COULD allude to something like a rapture. None the less, it doesn't seem to have been taught.
I don't know why Christians would have missed this revelation by Our Lord...
What? The Catholic Church withheld that info?
Why would Jesus allow that?
preston

Athens, OH

#394305 Oct 6, 2012
my words are not worthy of any dummy posting a heart, so dont hide behind them

the worst thing that topix did is when they introduced those icons, allowing people to hide rather than join the thread and produce their own thoughts.

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#394306 Oct 6, 2012
LTM wrote:
<quoted text>
'JESUS GAVE US AN ALTERNATIVE, NO NO NO NO NO.
HE DID NOT.
NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES JESUS SAY THERE IS HEAVEN HELL OR PURGATORY.
The story of the rich man and poor man, Jesus tells of the rich man in hell the poor man in heaven.
Rob, you know I love you, but what you believe isn't the truth.
Greetings LTM good friend

Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven....

I have a particular fondness for the Sermon on the Mount....And so do RCs. I can see you are trying to be a quiet peacemaker on here as well....
Fr Robert Dye

United States

#394307 Oct 6, 2012
preston wrote:
first Paul talked and wrote about this Rapture(even if the word isnt in the Bible).but the meaning as I said, is in the Bible in the original Greek
yet hojo and other catholics say that sola scripture in wrong, yet if we Christians used the thought of the Rapture, you attack us.
you people are two faced, no doubt about it..
Weren't You going on not that long ago about the word "Catholic" not being in the scriptures?

Maybe it was one of the other one-note anti-Catholics on the forum.

After a while, You all begin to run together ...

I'm beginning to have a harder time thinking as much ill-will of You, Pres.

Once You shared that story of having opened Yourself to that voice that:

a) claimed to be the Lord God

and

b) told You, in response to Your request for forgiveness that it would NOT forgive You ...

I have begun to feel only pity for You.

You ought to have known that that was NOT God.

I have no doubt that God has singled You out for special attention NOW, because Your remaining convinced that that voice was God set You on a horrid path.

I continue to pray for You, and will remember You in the 5:00 PM mass in Sallisaw, Oklahoma, this evening.

May the One True God grant You His forgiveness and His grace, His peace, and His love, through His Only Begotten Son, Who died to save us from the consequence of our sins, and Who rose to give to us everlasting life.

Rob
preston

Athens, OH

#394308 Oct 6, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
old friend....
Sorry you don't think martyrs are important....
their life is if they have a testimony for the Lord.

do you really think that monks(this happened seveal times in Vietnam) who participated in self immolation should be praised as martyrs?

I certainly dont
preston

Athens, OH

#394309 Oct 6, 2012
Robert F wrote:
<quoted text>
Greetings LTM good friend
Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven....
I have a particular fondness for the Sermon on the Mount....And so do RCs. I can see you are trying to be a quiet peacemaker on here as well....
she left and the door hit her in her tush, I think

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#394310 Oct 6, 2012
7th Day Catholics Rock wrote:
<quoted text>True but is an example of leaving one drained and weak from the presence of God that they would fall to the ground or floor. That was my point in reference to being slain in the spirit.
Greetings 7th DCR good friend

Isn't the fear of the Lord the beginning of Wisdom...?

Perhaps what you think as weakness is actually when one who is before the Lord, a sort of fear....There are many biblical examples of people falling before the Lord....

Since the one of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit is wisdom, can we not surmise that when one is slain in the spirit, it is the Holy Spirit which comes...?

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