You keep trying to sound scientific, but its embarrassing hearing you trying to defend your Creationist Cult that never presents any evidence for god, or against evolution.<quoted text>
Hawking said there is no event horizon.
When there was you had this mysterious magical hole in space where things disappeared into neverneverland. That was your "scientific" approach.
I didn't say there was a "hole". I compared the process to something like a turbine. You have charge and motion being directed into collision. It starts unwinding the atoms, most of which aren't neutral to begin with.
That is not a pure monolithic process, but can appear so from a distance. You are looking at the generic flow and effect.
Do not discount my barycenter observation. Analyze that gravitational force as a beam between two objects and those beams from many objects wrapping around that common point. That is a force being interfered with and wrapped up. Something similar happens in atoms.
The models and definitions used for the forces are archaic. They need to get away from being "objects" and more into processes.
You are the last of your cult, unable to convert anybody towards your stupid belief-lies.