Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#200872 Jan 8, 2014
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Shhhh, don't teach him. I love it when he replies to every post with "red herring."
I love what he thinks a "red herring" is.

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#200873 Jan 8, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Recently a 49 million-year-old cockroach fossil was found in Green River Formation near Rifle, Colo.
If evolution is so powerful and wonderful. After 49 million years of opportunity to evolve. Why aren’t cockroaches driving SUVs, dump trucks and snow plows?
Evoluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuution.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/01/0...
For one, the cockroach fossil is not the same as today's cockroaches. Similar, yes, but not the same.

For two, cockroaches are incredibly well adapted for their niche. And that niche has changed very little over a very long time. Without the selective pressure caused by a changing environment, little change will occur in a species...since it is already well adapted.

Pointing to a single example isn't going to discredit the theory of evolution unless you bring a whole lot more to the table. In the same 49 million years, a semi-aquatic hoofed shore predator has become the whales and dolphins we see today. With whales, their niche changed radically and the lineage changed radically along with it.

In fact, all mammal species have changed radically over the last 65 million years. The extinction of the dinosaurs changed the equation for mammals. At the end of the Cretaceous mammals were small nocturnal shrew-like animals. Then, without the competition of the dinosaurs, they were able exploit a vast range of new environments, diversifying into what we see today.

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#200874 Jan 8, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
Exodus 33:18-23 (NASB) 18 Then Moses said, "I pray You, show me Your glory!" 19 And He said, "I Myself will make all My goodness pass before you, and will proclaim the name of the LORD before you; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show compassion on whom I will show compassion." 20 But He said, "You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!" 21 Then the LORD said, "Behold, there is a place by Me, and you shall stand there on the rock; 22 and it will come about, while My glory is passing by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. 23 "Then I will take My hand away and you shall see My back, but My face shall not be seen." Note; -Seeing God was a life-threatening danger.-God used three forms of protection for the radiation; Behind a rock Shielded with His hand Only allowed a partial view (back) Exodus 34:29-35 (NASB) 29 It came about when Moses was coming down from Mount Sinai (and the two tablets of the testimony were in Moses' hand as he was coming down from the mountain), that Moses did not know that the skin of his face shone because of his speaking with Him. 30 So when Aaron and all the sons of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone, and they were afraid to come near him. 31 Then Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the rulers in the congregation returned to him; and Moses spoke to them. 32 Afterward all the sons of Israel came near, and he commanded them to do everything that the LORD had spoken to him on Mount Sinai. 33 When Moses had finished speaking with them, he put a veil over his face. 34 But whenever Moses went in before the LORD to speak with Him, he would take off the veil until he came out; and whenever he came out and spoke to the sons of Israel what he had been commanded, 35 the sons of Israel would see the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone. So Moses would replace the veil over his face until he went in to speak with Him. Note; The effect of radiation. Please explain how a accurate description of radiation's danger, affect and protection appeared in a story about a Alien visiting humans in a fiction book written by numerous authors, distorted by time and translation occurred. Smile.
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My, my, all these big, brave intelligent atheists, and not one able to stand up to a near senile old man.
I feel like David facing the Philistines...
You afraid of a batshit crazy?
Isn't it interesting that a space ship hovered over the Israelites leading them?
Smirk.
Yawn.

You are aware, are you not, that we atheist consider your book to be little more than mythology. Quoting it at us is just an exercise in futility on your part.

Imagine a Muslim quoting the Quran to you and saying it proved his point. What would your reaction be?

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#200875 Jan 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, I did no such thing.
I didn't say Throckmorton was wrong because of his philosophy. I said it is worth noting where he comes from on the issue of Christian evangelizing among Indians. He thinks it is atrocious. And that information is worth noting, as it debunks the image put out that Throckmorton is some kind of conservative evangelical. And it is worth noting when considering his take on Jefferson's motivations - the founding hero of separation - and whether Jefferson supported such evangelizing.
The facts are what shows Throckmorton to be wrong, and Barton right.
Darwin's AssSuck, you should never argue history with me.
Why? Because you can't even get the history of my last two posts right.
Come to think of it, you can't get anything right.
Welcome to Buck School. Have a seat in the back. There are non-infinite donuts on the table.
Buck, read your own effing post.

And, no, you have NOT shown that Throckmorton is wrong. Your arguments boil down to:

1) Throckmorton is not a conservative, and is therefore wrong.

2) Barton is right because Barton says he is right.

It should be very telling that you haven't presented ANYONE other than yourself, Barton, or Barton's employees that say Barton is right.

If everyone is telling you that you are wrong, you should at least consider that maybe you are. But not you. That's not the Buck way.

"Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong…
NAAAAH!
I'm an asshole."

--Dennis Leary

BTW, I see that you still can't bring yourself not to throw out insults.

See the new Buck, same as the old Buck.

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#200876 Jan 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Barton is an authority on religion and the founding of the nation.
You are an authority on dumbassery.
And,...OK,...I'll give you as an authority on infinite-length donuts.
Curious that you are virtually the only person to think he is.

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#200877 Jan 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
...and infinite pizza. Almost forgot that one.
If anyone asks if a pizza can be cut into infinite pieces, each of volume greater than zero, then the infinite pieces put back in the same box, I'll refer them to you.
This from the person that says that 1/2 is not a real value.

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#200878 Jan 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I'm from the Bible belt.
I think I matured pretty early. I played varsity football in the 7th grade.
About those mature boys up North,...
When they came down south from Penn State or Notre Dame, they would let out squeally sounds like little girls when I hit them really hard. If I laid a shoulder pad into their diaphragm just right, they would go out of the game and gasp for breath.
And those were the toughest ones.
LOL. Buck, mentally you have never matured. You are still in that little boy "My parents are always right" frame of mind.

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#200879 Jan 9, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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I have never seen statistics on God. I can't imagine how they would be compiled.
This is, in part, why there are so many atheists.

You can't even provide a falsifiable test for whether or not you god exists.

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Since: Jan 14

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#200880 Jan 9, 2014
Atheism requires 1 thing: A working brain
Jim

Cambridge, UK

#200881 Jan 9, 2014
Jay wrote:
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I don't see the word atheist where you claim it is. Also, there is nothing that I found that they do good because they are atheist or because of anything in atheism is the reason to do good. Saying what kinds of people make up a group says nothing about atheism being the guiding principle.
Didn't see anything on Gates being an atheist and atheism being the guiding principle to do good.
As for your claim not to have a dogma is not true. The mission statement is dogma.
Now tell me: what good were atheists doing 500 years ago?
Atheism is a disbelief in god, religion and religious liars (who lie about god).

You are looking to Atheism for the wrong things. Its just disbelief.

Bill Gates is an Atheist and the world's largest donator.

Acutally the top wealthiest donators are all Atheist - George Soros as Atheist as well.

Atheism has no dogma other than:

"Sorry, but I just don't believe you."
Jim

Cambridge, UK

#200882 Jan 9, 2014
Bill Gates & George Soros donated because they are good people, not necessarily because they disbelief in god and religion.

Religion lies, trying to mislead you into thinking that its the reason why people do nice things for others.

The real reason is because the person is nice. It doesn't matter if they are Atheist or Religious.

I would be more suspicious of a nice Religious person than a nice Atheist.

Because the Atheist doesn't have a religious agenda for being nice.

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#200886 Jan 9, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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In the same 49 million years, a semi-aquatic hoofed shore predator has become the whales and dolphins we see today.

The whale sequence is mathematically impossible.

You believe it anyway.

Keep the faith, Amen. Praise Darwin! ULALALALALALALALAL......

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#200887 Jan 9, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Yawn.
You are aware, are you not, that we atheist consider your book to be little more than mythology. Quoting it at us is just an exercise in futility on your part.
Imagine a Muslim quoting the Quran to you and saying it proved his point. What would your reaction be?
People use a yawn as a diversion when they get nervous.

I'm fully aware how you consider the Bible. I'm simply asking you if that is the result of ignorant bigotry, faith if you will, or a reasoned conclusion.

I've put forward a brief incident in your book of myth, and asked how it got there and accomplished what it promised.

Now put up or shut up.

Smile.

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#200888 Jan 9, 2014
TheKingIam wrote:
Atheism requires 1 thing: A working brain
Yeah, I'm seeing that...

Smirk.

“What?”

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#200889 Jan 9, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The whale sequence is mathematically impossible.
You believe it anyway.
Keep the faith, Amen. Praise Darwin! ULALALALALALALALAL......
Nothing is mathematically impossible.

Long live zero !!!!

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#200890 Jan 9, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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Yeah, I'm seeing that...
Smirk.
Go pray to buddah you nutter

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#200891 Jan 9, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The whale sequence is mathematically impossible........
So..... Sky Daddy can create something from nothing, raise the dead to life, Create a man from clay and a woman from clay boy's rib, get a virgin pregnant, give birth to itself ; BUT it can't turn a cow into a whale over millions of years.

Right!

You just keep telling God what It can and can't do.

ROFLMAO

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#200892 Jan 9, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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The whale sequence is mathematically impossible.
You believe it anyway.
Keep the faith, Amen. Praise Darwin! ULALALALALALALALAL......
Prove it.

As usual, you are talking out of you Buck.

Mathematics says you are wrong. Biology says you are wrong. And the fossil record definitely says you are wrong. There is a beautiful sequence of fossils showing whale evolution from ambulocetus to modern whales.

But then, your authority figures say otherwise, so you have to follow their lead and parrot their lack of reasoning.

Buck, you are a joke. Everyone knows it but you.

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#200893 Jan 9, 2014
KiMare wrote:
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People use a yawn as a diversion when they get nervous.
I'm fully aware how you consider the Bible. I'm simply asking you if that is the result of ignorant bigotry, faith if you will, or a reasoned conclusion.
I've put forward a brief incident in your book of myth, and asked how it got there and accomplished what it promised.
Now put up or shut up.
Smile.
Really, if you can't imagine any way it could have gotten there, then all I can say is that you have a very poor sense of imagination.

How did it get there? The same way Harry Potter ended up at Hogwarts...somebody made the story up.

Are you aware that a few years ago some Israeli archeologist went on a serious hunt for archeological evidence of Moses. They really want to find evidence of the man. And what did they find? Nada. Not one damned thing. Their conclusion? The whole Moses story is a myth.

And outside of the Bible, there isn't one mention of Moses in any historical document. Not one. It is almost as if the man never existed at all. Which is almost certainly the case.

Your one and only source for Moses is the Bible. Using the Bible as evidence of Moses is like using Paul Bunyan stories as evidence that Babe the Blue Ox really existed.

If you want to see what archeology really has to say on the early Bible, watch PBS's "The Bible's Buries Secrets". All true, and information that should be illuminating to a Christian.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/bibles-b...

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#200894 Jan 9, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Nothing is mathematically impossible.
Long live zero !!!!
Have you heard about the civilization that first developed the concept of zero? It was such a novel idea, they actually thought it was divine in origin. They put the symbol in all their temples and on all their altars.

To them, nothing was sacred.

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