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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#200728 Jan 8, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
It wasn't the church that caused me to leave, at least not the congregations. It was the god. It failed to deliver on its promises, which made it clear that it didn't exist.
After several years of a good faith effort, it was eventually no longer possible to suspend disbelief - something I did for the first several years of my Christian experience. I did that to give the god a chance to reveal itself if it existed, and for the apparent contradictions and errors in the scripture to become sensible with the passage of time. That never happened. There was clearly no holy spirit dwelling in people - no gifts of the spirit. And there was no protection from harm for the faithful, no answering of prayer. In short, there was no evidence of a god.
So, with a fond farewell, the church and I parted ways.
It wasn't until decades later that I came to see the problems with the church, first with the rise of the "moral majority," then with the Bush Jr.years, and finally with my Topix experience, which has been the most revealing.
I think I know where you went wrong. You never believed, not whole-heartedly anyway.

Suspending your disbelief for a few years is vastly different than believing, even for a minute.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#200729 Jan 8, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you not realize that this is a (feeble) attempt to mock homosexuals?
Think about why you post something like this.
You may say it's to mock me, not homosexuals. If this is the case, how does this mock me? Do you think I'll be offended, or that I'll look bad in others' eyes, or what?
I'm asking you seriously. Don't deflect or make some joke of it--that will be a poor reflection of you.
It's obvious by the length of your post that you're offended, at least in some way.

That was the whole point of my post. Not to mock homosexuals, but to mock you.

It seems to have worked.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#200730 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh ya, all them 12 year olds out there are so full of reason.......
Yes, they seem to be up here in the North were we mature a little faster than the bible belt kids. You were still believing in Santa, elves, fairies, trolls and God, I'll bet. It doesn't take much reason to realize that worshipping a child murdering, baby killer, genocidal maniac is unreasonable, even if 12 years olds down there haven't developed the skepticism and reason necessary to demonstrate no such God of the bible could exist. Apparently you still haven't developed your reasoning skills, probably never will.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#200731 Jan 8, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
With encouragement and constructive criticism, he will do better.
Very well. Then you'll have like six people in your mighty Topix Atheist! army.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#200732 Jan 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
We are still waiting for you to reach the age of reason.
Maybe next lifetime.
fuckoffloser

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#200733 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I know where you went wrong. You never believed, not whole-heartedly anyway.
Suspending your disbelief for a few years is vastly different than believing, even for a minute.
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

That verse has proven to, I would imagine millions, to be a lie......

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#200734 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's obvious by the length of your post that you're offended, at least in some way.
That was the whole point of my post. Not to mock homosexuals, but to mock you.
It seems to have worked.
I thought it was a good one..........

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#200735 Jan 8, 2014
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Buck Crick wrote:
Nope. Throckmorton is not just wrong, he's also lying. I'm not letting this smear go. I'll spend enough time on it to prove Barton is dead solid right. First, would it be beneficial, while observing this controversy about missionaries to Indians, to know that Throckmorton thinks is is abhorent to send Christian missionaries to Indians? He does. And would it be logical that he would then persist that a hero, Jefferson, of the "separation of church and state" cabal would not support doing that? From Throckmorton: "...the federal government pushed Christianity on Native American tribes until early in the 20th century. Native children were removed from their families in elementary school and sent away to boarding schools, sometimes run by church groups. They were forbidden to speak their language or follow their native customs. Some recall harsh punishments if the rules were violated. Christian Native Americans agree that the treatment was demeaning and offensive."
Throckmorton gets portrayed as a conservative evangelical. He is not. He departed his conservative roots and writes for the liberal Huffington Post and the ultra-liberal Salon. He has aligned himself with left-wing causes on gay rights, separation of church and state, and is praised regularly by George Soros-financed groups like "Right Wing Watch". I will follow with the specifics on how Throckmorton mis-states the record on the Indian issue, and how Barton is right and he is wrong.
As best I can tell, Barton misspoke about Jefferson's motivations, Throckmorton corrected him, and you offered that as evidence that Therockmorton lied. I can't see why you defend Barton.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#200736 Jan 8, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you not realize that this is a (feeble) attempt to mock homosexuals?
Think about why you post something like this.
You may say it's to mock me, not homosexuals. If this is the case, how does this mock me? Do you think I'll be offended, or that I'll look bad in others' eyes, or what?
I'm asking you seriously. Don't deflect or make some joke of it--that will be a poor reflection of you.
Funny you didnt come to that conclusion when an atheist or agnostic uses a similar tactic. Its happened on more then one occasion and you stay silent.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#200737 Jan 8, 2014
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> strange , I wonder if that's how the animals and insects feel about you.
Insect don't have feelings although animals certainly do, but not to the extent you're talking about, so your wrong on both counts. You seem to spend an awful lot of time being wrong. You might want to try a healthy does of skepticism, although I do believe you have NEVER in your life been skeptical about anything, it's an acquired skill.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#200738 Jan 8, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
A hoo-hoo Indian (makes to-and-fro cupping motion over pursed lips ) or a dot Indian (touches forehead)? What? Was that wrong?
Buck Crick wrote:
Feathers not dot.
OK, gotcha.

Because that casino Indian / 7-Eleven Indian thing can be confusing. And don't get me started on the West Indies. Everybody can't be an Indian.

This is just as bad (from Seinfeld):

George: What is Holland?
Jerry: What do you mean, "What is it?" It's a country right next to Belgium.
George: No, that's the Netherlands.
Jerry: Holland is the Netherlands.
George: Then who are the Dutch?"
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#200739 Jan 8, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I can’t say I blame you for leaving the Catholic Church. I mean no offence to anyone here on this thread that’s Catholic. But it’s a religion of idolatry, polytheism, and it stands against old and new testament principles.
But we non Catholics of the Christian faith do have some commonality with Catholics. They believe in God and also believe in religious freedom.
Matthew 23:9
King James Version (KJV)
9.“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
Listen closely now, It had NOTHING to do with the Catholic Church, rather to whole concept of a God who murders little children, kills babies, endorsed slavery and rape, is involved in blood sacrifice, rape, and genocide. A celestial dictator who can peer into your most private thoughts,waking or sleeping, and convict you of thought crimes. It really doesn't take much reason and logic to understand this could not possibly be the loving, compassionate, just God as described by religion, Catholic or otherwise. Even a 12 year old can see right through this ridiculous sham, I often wonder why adults can't see the same. Indoctrination, brainwashing, lack of critical thinking, and the total absents of skepticism seems most likely.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#200740 Jan 8, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
I could give a shit
That's nice. Can you do anything else?

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#200741 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's obvious by the length of your post that you're offended, at least in some way.
That was the whole point of my post. Not to mock homosexuals, but to mock you.
It seems to have worked.
Yes, I was offended.

I wasn't offended personally--I'm quite secure as to who and what I am, and mockery of this sort is of no moment to me.

What I find offensive is your pattern of engaging in these sophomoric, ignorant and bigoted attempts at humor, usually aimed at homosexuals, or minorities, or women, or foreigners.

As I thought, your goal was to mock me. But that's so feeble and empty. What you do instead, by attempting to mock me by suggesting that I'm homosexual, is to demonstrate that you consider homosexuality to be something objectionable, or loathsome.

You sometimes say you want to learn, and that you have learned here. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude demonstrates that you have learned little, if anything at all.
christINSANITY is EVIL

Fergus, Canada

#200743 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Very well. Then you'll have like six people in your mighty Topix Atheist! army.
all it takes is one atheist to mop the floor with dozen of kristains!you loser
LLLL

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#200744 Jan 8, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I was offended.
I wasn't offended personally--I'm quite secure as to who and what I am, and mockery of this sort is of no moment to me.
What I find offensive is your pattern of engaging in these sophomoric, ignorant and bigoted attempts at humor, usually aimed at homosexuals, or minorities, or women, or foreigners.
As I thought, your goal was to mock me. But that's so feeble and empty. What you do instead, by attempting to mock me by suggesting that I'm homosexual, is to demonstrate that you consider homosexuality to be something objectionable, or loathsome.
You sometimes say you want to learn, and that you have learned here. Unfortunately, this sort of attitude demonstrates that you have learned little, if anything at all.
Well what we've learned here is that your a hypocrite..........Nah not really, we've known it for quite sometime..........

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#200745 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
It's obvious by the length of your post that you're offended, at least in some way.
That was the whole point of my post. Not to mock homosexuals, but to mock you.
It seems to have worked.
You mock homosexuals by believing that it's an abject abnormality.
Lnc

United States

#200746 Jan 8, 2014
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>fuckoffloser
a bit defensive?

Normal Atheist and Christians can take criticism of their

ideas without going off the deep end.

just saying ..

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#200747 Jan 8, 2014
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>Well what we've learned here is that your a hypocrite..........Nah not really, we've known it for quite sometime..........
pot/kettle/laughable

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#200748 Jan 8, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Very well. Then you'll have like six people in your mighty Topix Atheist! army.
Atheists don't need an army.

Onward Christian Soldier.

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