Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194723 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Have you ever been to Hell, Bongo?
If you have, how did you escape?
If you haven't then STFU about it.
Which is it?
Ive never mentioned hell, are you arguing the strawman? I don't know where or what hell is. I do know that there will be a separation. Whether or not there is an afterlife, the proof will be demonstrated upon a persons demise. Do you agree, cupcake?

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#194724 Dec 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Gillette Stadium? Is that in Boston? You live there?
I told you before that if Godzilla walked out of the ocean you would have a crowd of people there with spears instead of running just to protect you because you are precious. Confused and maybe a bit bitter, but precious. Coupled with your abilities that disability opens a life for you better than you would probably have had. You are special. Ask anyone on here and they haven't even seen you.
I have seen some really good street musicians in the FQ of New Orleans. Will never forget this one group of older guys who were definitely pros playing rock and country with a car battery powering their amp and all looking real derelict. But damn they were good. Used to be a younger guy around Jackson Square that rolled an upright piano out every morning on a dolly and he played barrelhouse as good as Mr. B. I even tipped him.
A mainstream view of Earth is like watching a pile of ants. You are one of them. Follow your own trail. Be the queen.
I have no disability, Dave.

I have an asset. I actually have more than one and I'll use them to get every penny out of you that I can. Have you seen me pretend to cry?

Stumps and Fiddles. I'm heading to Alabama.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194725 Dec 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Dude. You see yourself as some sort of elder statesman weathered with experience, but I'll bet she sees you differently. I'll bet she's looking at you and mourning her future already.
bwhahahaha

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#194726 Dec 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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She understands human nature better than you do - something that zealous Christians typically don't understand. With faith, you just choose to believe what you want. and believe it - things like a ghost occupying you and changing your essential nature because you ask it to.
It doesn't work like that, as any evidence based thinker with some life experience can tell you. If your wife is wired as a lesbian or bisexual, she still fantasizes about women, no matter how hard she prays. If she doesn't, then her homosexual experiences were just experimentation that would have ended with or without religion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenomics

It appears the living experience can modify your physical makeup. That would include your thinking from a strictly material view.

That "ghost" has broken alcohol and drug abuse, and even bad behavior.

You can whip a man to make him behave, but he has to change personality from within.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194727 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I don't think so.

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Walk down the road a mile in my shoe.
Dave, have you seen my face? I can get a ride. It's like magic. I stick my thumb out and BOOM. I have to decide who I'm going to ride with. I have to live with that. It's not my fault.
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Never underestimate me, Dave.
Never give up on me, either.
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OTay.
Yeah I know what you mean, who woulda thunk so many people were prone to Acrotomophilia

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#194728 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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What first amendment rights?
Are you talking about free speech? I hope not because he exercised the hell out of that right. The first amendment guarantees that the government won't arrest or otherwise sanction you for your speech (as long as it's not a danger to others, of course). Last I heard, Phil wasn't under arrest. Hold on a minute, let me check something..........Nope, A&E is not the government.
You should try to understand the subject before leaping in.
A+E is not the government, but how they make decisions reflects their own respect for free speech.

One decision could have been to release a disclaimer saying that Mr. Robertson's personal views do not reflect theirs, and that his plain-spoken ways are one of the reasons for the show's popularity.

That would have shown respect for free speech.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#194729 Dec 21, 2013
UiDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Kyle Zripolo, student at McMartin School
McMartin ritual abuse case in Manhattan Beach, CA, 1983-84
"same time, being the type of person I was, whatever my parents wanted me to do, I would do. And I thought they wanted me to help protect my little brother and sister who went to McMartin... I think I got the satanic details by picturing our church. We went to American Martyrs, which was a huge Catholic church. Every Sunday we had to go, and Mass would last an hour, hour and a half. None of us wanted to go: It was kicking and screaming all the way there. Sitting, standing, sitting, standing. What I would do was picture the altar, pews and stained-glass windows, and if [investigators] said,'Describe an altar,' I would describe the one in our church. Or instead of,'There was a priest in a green suit'—someone who was real—I would say,'A man dressed in red as a cult member.' From going to church you know that God is good, and the devil is bad and has horns and is about evil and red and blood. I'd just throw a twist in there with Satan and devil-worshipping.
Let me ask, World Beatnik.

Do you write for the character Boomhauer on "King of the Hill"?
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194730 Dec 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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What's not to understand?
I understand that for most of these people, faith is until the end, and they will not change. I don't expect any of the Topix Christians we post with,.
Thanks, man. That's a compliment . Any honest atheist should know, in the back of their mind , that if their supposition was wrong there will likely be a warm redfaced gut wrenching feeling

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#194731 Dec 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
"I'm not Catholic."
<quoted text>
Other popular 16th century pick up lines include:
"You wanna come over and see my dad's slaves?"
"I took a bath this year."
"I crossed the ocean to escape religious persecution. I stayed for you."
You could find people to look down on and feel better about yourself without going back 500 years.

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#194732 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I have no disability, Dave.
I have an asset. I actually have more than one and I'll use them to get every penny out of you that I can. Have you seen me pretend to cry?
Stumps and Fiddles. I'm heading to Alabama.
:-)

You won't get many pennies out of me, little one. But you will get much admiration for your talents doing so on others.

There were too many women ahead of you. They got it all. It's a math thing.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194733 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no disability, Dave.
I have an asset. I actually have more than one and I'll use them to get every penny out of you that I can. Have you seen me pretend to cry?
Stumps and Fiddles. I'm heading to Alabama.
Obviously, you've likely been through a lot of adversity. Was it those damn parents or having come from the third world?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#194734 Dec 21, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I remember as a youngster having to listen to Dean Martin and Bing Crosby albums all day long while i played. Does that count?
No, but that shit that passes for music today might.

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#194735 Dec 21, 2013
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/12/...

We discussed things like this recently.

If that can already cook flying metal within seconds, think what it can do to human bodies in shorter order. Just by sweeping it slowly. So far. Or building structures.

Should be pretty effective in urban combat.

There has to be some serious wicked weaponry already deployed.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#194736 Dec 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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She understands human nature better than you do - something that zealous Christians typically don't understand. With faith, you just choose to believe what you want. and believe it - things like a ghost occupying you and changing your essential nature because you ask it to.
It doesn't work like that, as any evidence based thinker with some life experience can tell you. If your wife is wired as a lesbian or bisexual, she still fantasizes about women, no matter how hard she prays. If she doesn't, then her homosexual experiences were just experimentation that would have ended with or without religion.
Whats different about a thief or a cruel person or someone who can kill ? A person must make a decision to change. It may not be easy, that's life. I think it can be proven that behavior is contrary to nature and natural use. btw, you were wired for your occupation by parents etc. Suppose you wanted to be a ballplayer? Would you be living as a psychic slave ? Many many have.

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#194737 Dec 21, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Around the same time the CEO of Chick-fil-a gave his thoughts so did the President (I think?) of Amazon. His thinking was directly opposed and some Christians did call for a boycott of Amazon. This Christian that loves everyone's right to speak thinks its silly. Not a fan of duck any more than honey boo boo but everyone gets a say.
The hypocrisy of your post Chris is that if a non-believer says something about Christians...you call it hate. If a Christian speaks up about non-Christians you call it their right and their duty to speak up.

That's what bothers me. I don't care what some duck hunter believes or doesn't. His words were as much hate as if someone lumped Christians in with terrorists. Do you not see that?

I don't care if you are Christian or not...or what you believe...I do resent though you implying that my son is a pervert. I resent that you think it is "love" to call him that.

When your words reach my ears...or in the case of Topix my eyes...they are words of hate.

BTW...I am not an advocate of "Phil" being suspended. It just gives him and others a platform to continue the hate. I think we all should have just said..."who cares what some duck people think".

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#194738 Dec 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I have no disability, Dave.
I have an asset. I actually have more than one and I'll use them to get every penny out of you that I can. Have you seen me pretend to cry?
Stumps and Fiddles. I'm heading to Alabama.
Oh so you're a prospector ?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#194739 Dec 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenomics
It appears the living experience can modify your physical makeup. That would include your thinking from a strictly material view.
That "ghost" has broken alcohol and drug abuse, and even bad behavior.
You can whip a man to make him behave, but he has to change personality from within.
Truth. My wife, again 8 years before we met also was a hardcore drug user. She did it all. The same night she became a Christian when she left the life I speak of she also never again touched the drugs, never again got drunk. Strange that while some in certain circles say they are for people making better life choices if a person stands and gives glory to God they will spend a lifetime trying to tear it down. Scratch that, its not strange its exactly as the Lord say it will be. All glory to Him.

Since: Sep 08

Saguache, CO

#194740 Dec 21, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Obviously, you've likely been through a lot of adversity. Was it those damn parents or having come from the third world?
I would venture, based upon this online persona of hers that it is more of being a pretty fresh flower that had a petal or two removed. Serious effect on self image.

I had similar when I had my teeth removed.

She will get over it.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#194741 Dec 21, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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The hypocrisy of your post Chris is that if a non-believer says something about Christians...you call it hate. If a Christian speaks up about non-Christians you call it their right and their duty to speak up.
That's what bothers me. I don't care what some duck hunter believes or doesn't. His words were as much hate as if someone lumped Christians in with terrorists. Do you not see that?
I don't care if you are Christian or not...or what you believe...I do resent though you implying that my son is a pervert. I resent that you think it is "love" to call him that.
When your words reach my ears...or in the case of Topix my eyes...they are words of hate.
BTW...I am not an advocate of "Phil" being suspended. It just gives him and others a platform to continue the hate. I think we all should have just said..."who cares what some duck people think".
I call bs. I am not having a problem nor do I call people that disagree and say so hate. I call telling people they are a waste of flesh and like air pollution hate. What bothers me is when you see it from Ben or whatever his name is today, say nothing and rank on Christians. And I don't think your son is a pervert, I think he is caught up in preversion. I do apologize as I do think I said that once concerning homosexuals. I would say if a Christian pastor takes money that comes into a church for tithes and was to gamble it he is also caught up in perversion.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#194744 Dec 21, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenomics
It appears the living experience can modify your physical makeup. That would include your thinking from a strictly material view.
That "ghost" has broken alcohol and drug abuse, and even bad behavior.
You can whip a man to make him behave, but he has to change personality from within.
Another thought, God will also change a person from the inside out. Here in what some call God's waiting room with a fair amount of gray haired folks I've witnessed it. My former pastor now retired because of age loved everyone. He was a fighter but just by looking at the man could see the hope that lived in him. And sad to say a person of a similar age that hates God, well that too is quite obvious as by that time all the makeup in the world, the new Lexus, all the plastic surgery of south Fl. can't hide it.

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