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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#191263 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. yes, a McDonald's franchise can afford to pay their employees a decent wage but they won't ..
.. and, they will not increase their price because business might take a nosedive ..
.. so, it all boils down to greed, doesn't it ??..
Corporate Greed. Some employees, the one's that can get an order right and do exceptionally well should be paid more.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191264 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
You're down to his marriage with Jane Wyman.
I'd say we have pretty much exhausted this one, then.
Oh, wait. You haven't covered Nancy's astrologer yet.
Your handlers would insist.
Buck, you know you are my hero dealing with these moron Topix atheists, but I must confess to being alarmed by your being snake charmed by that Hollywood creation. That is something they do.

You got me scared, bro. I'm going to have to look for an exorcist that can work over the net. I think someone slipped an evil spirit into one of their posts to you.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#191265 Dec 10, 2013
LuciFerr wrote:
<quoted text>
There's also a large demographic both here and in the US that consists of men abandoning their families. Should those families suffer further and have assumptions made about them?
Seems to me like political agenda, sure don't worry about taking care of the needy (great christian attitude RR) let's direct all taxes towards the military so we can kill some more people and drill for oil.
GoldOilDollar
Yes, it always takes 2 to tango.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191266 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Their skills and labor have a market value.
Government actions like minimum wage laws distort it.
Once the exchange of money and services is distorted, unintended consequences result.
The free market is the most efficient arbiter. The incentives in the free market are properly aligned - toward maximum benefit of all parties.
Government introduces perverse incentives - as in, rewarding sloth, poor resource management, and lack of quality outcomes.
But the breaks are a lot longer - I'll give you that.
.. skills and labor have never had a true market value ..

.. whether they were blacksmiths, carpenters, house servants or field workers, slaves were housed and fed at the whim of their masters ..

.. until the feminist movement, women were paid less than their male counterparts for the same skills. In many fields, they continue to be paid less ..

.. even today, " .... blacks have a 7 percent lower reservation wage than their white counterparts at a comparable job that demands a comparable skill level.."

http://freakonomics.com/2011/10/06/explaining...

.. Buck, American has become the aristocracy of the moneyed. The aristocracy has always decided who receives what. When the peasants revolt, the ruling class changes tactics. Instead of slavery, there's sharecropping. None of this has worked in the past and it's not going to work in the future ..

.. when government becomes a full fledged member of the aristocracy, revolution occurs and history repeats itself ..

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#191267 Dec 10, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
My kids, do you really think that I can speak for anyone else’s kids?
Not necessarily Saturnalia, you could include Yule, Mid Winter, Winter Solstice, Yalda, Kwanzaa, M&#333;draniht, Hanukkah, Pancha Ganapati and not forgetting Dies Natalis Solis Invicti. All as good an excuse as christmas and for the most part they are all far older celebrations with real events to celebrate.
Now that's a good point. I might wish everyone a Merry Yule this year.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191268 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yeah, I know.
And Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl".
Fascinating stuff.
It is not love and admiration I have for Hilary. It isn't sexual attraction, either.

I liked Goldwater.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#191269 Dec 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Corporate Greed. Some employees, the one's that can get an order right and do exceptionally well should be paid more.
You make a good point. The turnover rate in that industry has to be astronomical. Even the managers have high turnover rates. I had a friend that was promoted to manager. She was ecstatic, and hadnt been there long at all. IIRC she started out at about 40 grand a year. She didnt last long because when your help didnt show up managers were required to stay until a replacement came in. They aren't reimbursed for that. She got paid well but was putting in 60- 70 hours a week filling in.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#191270 Dec 10, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You're dumb. Straight people get cancer too.
<quoted text>
Yeah true. They also get mental illness, like Adam.

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#191271 Dec 10, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I know, Buck, things sure are going to hell in a handbasket, aren't they?
It all started with the abolition of slavery. Then desegregation, followed by the voting rights legislation.
After that, women got the right to vote. Later, women got some reproductive rights. Now even homosexuals have rights. And we have a black president.
What next?
Maybe it's time to move to North Korea. Even that's a gamble, now that Baby Kim is entertaining Dennis Rodman, a colored boy.
Nice one. LOLOL

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191272 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. skills and labor have never had a true market value ..
.. whether they were blacksmiths, carpenters, house servants or field workers, slaves were housed and fed at the whim of their masters ..
.. until the feminist movement, women were paid less than their male counterparts for the same skills. In many fields, they continue to be paid less ..
.. even today, " .... blacks have a 7 percent lower reservation wage than their white counterparts at a comparable job that demands a comparable skill level.."
http://freakonomics.com/2011/10/06/explaining...
.. Buck, American has become the aristocracy of the moneyed. The aristocracy has always decided who receives what. When the peasants revolt, the ruling class changes tactics. Instead of slavery, there's sharecropping. None of this has worked in the past and it's not going to work in the future ..
.. when government becomes a full fledged member of the aristocracy, revolution occurs and history repeats itself ..
Slavery is not a free market system.

This thread is getting crazy.

Ians thinks conservatives are taking over, I think liberals are taking over, Dave thinks Reagan was a bad president, and you think we are poised for slavery.

This reminds me of when I was incarcerated in the mental hospital.

Except there's nothing to smash and break out.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191273 Dec 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Corporate Greed. Some employees, the one's that can get an order right and do exceptionally well should be paid more.
BUCK

.. when posters like Bongo, Rider, Dave and Eagle agree with me, you must come to your senses and realize us 'common folk' have a tremendous problem when Big Biz decides how the future must look ..

.. and, we haven't even started to address what happens to Small Biz when WalMart moves in ..

.. get a grip, it's not working. Must I take you over my knee? Again ??..

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#191274 Dec 10, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>I know, Buck, things sure are going to hell in a handbasket, aren't they?

It all started with the abolition of slavery. Then desegregation, followed by the voting rights legislation.

After that, women got the right to vote. Later, women got some reproductive rights. Now even homosexuals have rights. And we have a black president.

What next?

Maybe it's time to move to North Korea. Even that's a gamble, now that Baby Kim is entertaining Dennis Rodman, a colored boy.
What a world.

Next thing you know, you might develop a decent welfare system, might.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191275 Dec 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It is not love and admiration I have for Hilary. It isn't sexual attraction, either.
I liked Goldwater.
Let me get this straight.

You liked Goldwater, but disliked Reagan?

That's not possible.

Something happened to you Dave.

Something very bad.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191276 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Slavery is not a free market system.
This thread is getting crazy.
Ians thinks conservatives are taking over, I think liberals are taking over, Dave thinks Reagan was a bad president, and you think we are poised for slavery.
This reminds me of when I was incarcerated in the mental hospital.
Except there's nothing to smash and break out.
.. no, the peasant class will never accept slavery ..

.. how about I just take you over my knee now so you won't beg ??..

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191277 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
BUCK
.. when posters like Bongo, Rider, Dave and Eagle agree with me, you must come to your senses and realize us 'common folk' have a tremendous problem when Big Biz decides how the future must look ..
.. and, we haven't even started to address what happens to Small Biz when WalMart moves in ..
.. get a grip, it's not working. Must I take you over my knee? Again ??..
If I have to be the only rational person on this thread,...

I'm up to it.

Read Milton Friedman and Arthur Laffer.

Forget everything you think you know about economics, because it's all wrong.

I offer that as a favor because I like you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191279 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
If I have to be the only rational person on this thread,...
I'm up to it.
Read Milton Friedman and Arthur Laffer.
Forget everything you think you know about economics, because it's all wrong.
I offer that as a favor because I like you.
.. Keynesian economics don't work ..

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#191280 Dec 10, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes that’s more or less what I said in “It failed in research and development”
As yet, anything that the US (most advanced technologically) or anyone else has against extra terrestrial threat is about as useful as a monkey p|ssing in the Atlantic
Though not perfect, the US has the only viable anti ballistic missile defense systems in the world.
We also have the stealthest warplanes ever devised.
Though we are only a hair ahead in these systems, we do have the edge, in both stealth and numbers. We in short, are unmatched by any foreign power.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#191281 Dec 10, 2013
Amazing kit, but Vietnamese tunnels and bicycles were good enough.

I think the B2 is silly money for what it does. For the same money, US taxpayers could deploy a massive number of stand off missiles - a good number would get through.

China won't have to go through all the committees and redesigns NATO countries do to arrive at their finished aircraft. They are already test flying stealth planes. They won't be as good, but they'll be cheaper.

If (we/you/us) want to get into an arms race with China, I'm sure they'll lend us the money.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Though not perfect, the US has the only viable anti ballistic missile defense systems in the world.
We also have the stealthest warplanes ever devised.
Though we are only a hair ahead in these systems, we do have the edge, in both stealth and numbers. We in short, are unmatched by any foreign power.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191282 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Let me get this straight.
You liked Goldwater, but disliked Reagan?
That's not possible.
Something happened to you Dave.
Something very bad.
Goldwater was a real deal. Reagan was a charlatan riding his coat tails.

Reagan's sincerity was limited to being an as*hole.

Never trust an actor.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191283 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
I proved [Dave's] analysis bogus.

So far, you're the only one who thinks so. Good work, Buck.
Buck Crick wrote:
Dave attempted to refute my evidence that Reagan's tax cuts led to an increase in federal revenue, but he queered the data by expressing it as a percentage of GDP. He also attempted to show that Reagan made the tax code more regressive by pointing to the relative rise in payroll taxes. I showed he was wrong by proving, first, that Reagan's measures only affected income taxes, and also by showing that, with the cuts, lower income earners' share of federal taxes went down.
It's rather easy to defend any point or its opposite by selecting the data you wish to present in the manner you like and disregarding the rest, like the argument that the wealthy are somehow being burdened even more with taxes than they were by showing the percentage of total taxes they pay rather than the percentage of their income that they pay in taxes.

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