Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: May 10

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#191222 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. yes, as taxpayers, we subsidize the income of fast-food workers instead of insisting employers pay them a living wage and pass it on to the consumer ..
.. if you go to a dine-in restaurant and order a burger, you probably tip the server. Yes,(s)he's making minimum wage but when you add gratuity, you're paying the true price ..
.. to reduce product cost, fast-food restaurants do not factor in the true value of service. This business model generates profit and demeans the worth of an employee. If anything, it is the ultimate elitist attitude ..
.. if fast-food restaurants paid their employees a livable wage, your burger would cost an additional $1.00. Instead, workers must depend on government handouts to survive ..
.. for me, the picture is wrong. Along with demeaning the value of service people by forcing them to apply for charity, it places an unnecessary tax burden on everyone ..
.. who benefits? The person who likes Big Macs and is too lazy to cook a nutritional meal? How about the restaurant owner? Can't you see anything wrong with the picture ??..
Yes, what I see wrong is your analysis.

Fast food workers earning minimum wage are mostly just entering the workforce and working part time.

If you raise the minimum wage, you will eliminate a percentage of their jobs. Then they will be more reliant on government.

They must have wanted the jobs, since they applied and took them.

A high percentage of McDonalds managers began in part-time, minimum wage jobs.

How taxpayers are forced to deal with this is not done by the McDonalds management or the market. The subsidizing is created by the government.

These employees are better off having this minimum wage job than not having it, and so are the taxpayers.

Utopian economics has been tried over and over. The results are not promising.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191223 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. yes, as taxpayers, we subsidize the income of fast-food workers instead of insisting employers pay them a living wage and pass it on to the consumer ..
.. if you go to a dine-in restaurant and order a burger, you probably tip the server. Yes,(s)he's making minimum wage but when you add gratuity, you're paying the true price ..
.. to reduce product cost, fast-food restaurants do not factor in the true value of service. This business model generates profit and demeans the worth of an employee. If anything, it is the ultimate elitist attitude ..
.. if fast-food restaurants paid their employees a livable wage, your burger would cost an additional $1.00. Instead, workers must depend on government handouts to survive ..
.. for me, the picture is wrong. Along with demeaning the value of service people by forcing them to apply for charity, it places an unnecessary tax burden on everyone ..
.. who benefits? The person who likes Big Macs and is too lazy to cook a nutritional meal? How about the restaurant owner? Can't you see anything wrong with the picture ??..
Automation turned restaurant workers into factory workers. Glorified automats. That lack of tips hurt badly, and you are right about it being subsidized by the government. I posted a link with the numbers, I think it was yesterday morning.

But the automation did reduce the spitting in the food.
Bongo

Patchogue, NY

#191224 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. yes, as taxpayers, we subsidize the income of fast-food workers instead of insisting employers pay them a living wage and pass it on to the consumer ..
.. if you go to a dine-in restaurant and order a burger, you probably tip the server. Yes,(s)he's making minimum wage but when you add gratuity, you're paying the true price ..
.. to reduce product cost, fast-food restaurants do not factor in the true value of service. This business model generates profit and demeans the worth of an employee. If anything, it is the ultimate elitist attitude ..
.. if fast-food restaurants paid their employees a livable wage, your burger would cost an additional $1.00. Instead, workers must depend on government handouts to survive ..
.. for me, the picture is wrong. Along with demeaning the value of service people by forcing them to apply for charity, it places an unnecessary tax burden on everyone ..
.. who benefits? The person who likes Big Macs and is too lazy to cook a nutritional meal? How about the restaurant owner? Can't you see anything wrong with the picture ??..
poppycock. The average Mc donalds brings in $40 thousand a day and more in some busier ones. The payroll is cheap because you don't need much skill and there are plenty of proletariats who don't aim higher , waiting to apply. They could double the wage and have only a small impact on profit. Some small businesses have such small margins that a min. wage hike would affect them,

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191225 Dec 10, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Federal_...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russ...

The Soviets and Russians are no slouches in the science and technology arena. It is a very good thing we never got into a serious slug fest with them. We actually could have lost.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191226 Dec 10, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_of_all_bo...

Non-nuclear.

Can also seriously ruin one's day, canceling or postponing indefinitely any plans made.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#191227 Dec 10, 2013
Sorry about the Nene engines...
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R ussian_Federal_Space_Agency
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Russ...
The Soviets and Russians are no slouches in the science and technology arena. It is a very good thing we never got into a serious slug fest with them. We actually could have lost.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191228 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
Dave is very smart.
Yeah, he told me. Or something like that.
Waitwut

Skei, Norway

#191229 Dec 10, 2013
Divine Alien wrote:
When we leave this world, we are going back to God himself.
And you know this... how?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191230 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, what I see wrong is your analysis.
Fast food workers earning minimum wage are mostly just entering the workforce and working part time.
If you raise the minimum wage, you will eliminate a percentage of their jobs. Then they will be more reliant on government.
They must have wanted the jobs, since they applied and took them.
A high percentage of McDonalds managers began in part-time, minimum wage jobs.
How taxpayers are forced to deal with this is not done by the McDonalds management or the market. The subsidizing is created by the government.
These employees are better off having this minimum wage job than not having it, and so are the taxpayers.
Utopian economics has been tried over and over. The results are not promising.
.. you are impossible ..

.. no, fast food workers earning minimum wage are not mostly just entering the workforce and working part time because it's no longer an entry-level job ..

.. step into the real world where you see 35 & 45-year-old people flipping burgers at McDonald's because the economy made a wrong turn ..

.. your entire script demands people work below the poverty level, be grateful for a job and depend on a welfare system that can no longer sustain them ..

.. herd the cattle into the barn ..

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191231 Dec 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
That had been a developing technology since long before. The ABM treaty sought limits on it, officially. Reagan abrogated the treaty, thus starting a new arms race. It violated the MAD doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ballistic_M...
You may have noticed Russia has been quite competent in their rockets and space endeavors for quite some time. We rely on them now. Nice and steady versus some grandstanding on our part. Nice that push didn't come to shove.
Shrewd move. Brought down the iron curtain. Freed millions of people. Not a shot fired.

Not bad for a B-movie cowboy.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191232 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. you are impossible ..
.. no, fast food workers earning minimum wage are not mostly just entering the workforce and working part time because it's no longer an entry-level job ..
.. step into the real world where you see 35 & 45-year-old people flipping burgers at McDonald's because the economy made a wrong turn ..
.. your entire script demands people work below the poverty level, be grateful for a job and depend on a welfare system that can no longer sustain them ..
.. herd the cattle into the barn ..
I don't have a script, and I don't demand anybody work anywhere.

Freedom and opportunity is what I like.

No equality of outcome can be enforced without impoverishing everyone.

When I popped out, nobody came around with a spare tit.

(Stole that from Jimmy Stewart, "Shenandoah")

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191233 Dec 10, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> poppycock. The average Mc donalds brings in $40 thousand a day and more in some busier ones. The payroll is cheap because you don't need much skill and there are plenty of proletariats who don't aim higher , waiting to apply. They could double the wage and have only a small impact on profit. Some small businesses have such small margins that a min. wage hike would affect them,
.. yes, a McDonald's franchise can afford to pay their employees a decent wage but they won't ..

.. and, they will not increase their price because business might take a nosedive ..

.. so, it all boils down to greed, doesn't it ??..
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#191234 Dec 10, 2013
Buck's wish for a status quo is not sustainable.
US tax revenues need to come up, wage inflation is not always harmful.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. you are impossible ..
.. no, fast food workers earning minimum wage are not mostly just entering the workforce and working part time because it's no longer an entry-level job ..
.. step into the real world where you see 35 & 45-year-old people flipping burgers at McDonald's because the economy made a wrong turn ..
.. your entire script demands people work below the poverty level, be grateful for a job and depend on a welfare system that can no longer sustain them ..
.. herd the cattle into the barn ..

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191235 Dec 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. yes, a McDonald's franchise can afford to pay their employees a decent wage but they won't ..
.. and, they will not increase their price because business might take a nosedive ..
.. so, it all boils down to greed, doesn't it ??..
Businesses don't start for the hope of being charities.

If the employees had a marketable value higher than what McDonalds is paying, they would not be there.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191236 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't have a script, and I don't demand anybody work anywhere.
Freedom and opportunity is what I like.
No equality of outcome can be enforced without impoverishing everyone.
When I popped out, nobody came around with a spare tit.
(Stole that from Jimmy Stewart, "Shenandoah")
.. it isn't about everything you want ..

.. I don't want to subsidize fast-food restaurants that make untold profits then tax me because they are creating jobs below the poverty line ..

.. this type of business model is creating slaves dependent on their masters and robbing people of their dignity ..

.. these are just a few of the reasons I do not patronize fast-food restaurants ..

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191237 Dec 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
That had been a developing technology since long before. The ABM treaty sought limits on it, officially. Reagan abrogated the treaty, thus starting a new arms race. It violated the MAD doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Ballistic_M...
You may have noticed Russia has been quite competent in their rockets and space endeavors for quite some time. We rely on them now. Nice and steady versus some grandstanding on our part. Nice that push didn't come to shove.
Ahhh. It's not like it's rocket science or something.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191238 Dec 10, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Buck's wish for a status quo is not sustainable.
US tax revenues need to come up, wage inflation is not always harmful.
<quoted text>
U.S. tax revenues set a new record high this year.

I have news for you, Tick Tock, they will spend every dime you send them and more. And that won't be enough. They will demand more.

And some misty-eyed liberal bleating heart like you will demand we send more.

And nobody will be better off but them.

It's like pounding sand down a rat hole.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#191239 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Businesses don't start for the hope of being charities.
If the employees had a marketable value higher than what McDonalds is paying, they would not be there.
.. since when do people have a market value ??..

.. is there a going price for a slave ??..

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#191240 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Shrewd move. Brought down the iron curtain. Freed millions of people. Not a shot fired.
Not bad for a B-movie cowboy.
Reagan was too simple minded to be an intellect. He had handlers. Similar to Charlie McCarthy.

He had no depth. Pure plastic talking head.

People like Ollie North and drug dealers.

That was brinksmanship and adventurism.

Buck, Reagan is a false god created by Hollywood.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#191241 Dec 10, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
U.S. tax revenues set a new record high this year.
I have news for you, Tick Tock, they will spend every dime you send them and more. And that won't be enough. They will demand more.
And some misty-eyed liberal bleating heart like you will demand we send more.
And nobody will be better off but them.
It's like pounding sand down a rat hole.
Bingo......

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