Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#187364 Nov 26, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I don’t think, I know, all you need to do is the sums. I realise sums are probably beyond you but that’s not my problem
You really have no idea of the scope of that equation do you?
What makes you think God is restrained to what we call laws of physics?

How have you confirmed that He is?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#187365 Nov 26, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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The biosphere was referenced.
It is located on and around planet earth.
You may have heard of it.
It's been in all the papers.
You mean the globe of water that Genesis has surrounding the Earth with the stars painted on it ?

ROFLMAO

You have the greatest mind of the 5th century!

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#187366 Nov 26, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No such dimension's have ever been verified by science. The James Randy foundation has set aside one million dollars the anyone that can prove this supernatural world of ghosts and sprits. No one has claimed this prize since it was offered some 10-15 years ago, I wonder why!!
Can you name and describe the "scientific" devices used in this research? Can you "site" any reputable scientific journal that supports these findings?
There is NO evidence for the existence of a supernatural realm, it doesn't exist. Personal testimony, anecdotal accounts, and someones delusional experience doesn't count as evidence.
The statement I wrote is accurate, if anything is observable (the scientific definition not a personal account) and testable then it is a fact.
EMF detector / video and digital recording devices / thermal imaging devices.

Let's just start with this question bl.....How much evidence is required to make something factual?

And you use James Randy for a reference?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#187367 Nov 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You were unable to do your part in that discussion, Dave, which I why I abandoned the matter with you.
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Sorry, Dave, but this stuff isn't for you. Your thinking has been disentrained from that of the rest for so long now that you can't effectively communicate with others about any scientific or philosophical matter, which makes your posting on such matters of little value or interest to anybody but you.
Here you are telling me what you think the other soldiers would do, when you were asked how you would decide which were seeing a real oasis, and which were seeing a mirage, and you have never once tried to do that. Discussion requires cooperation - two minds trying to come together and exchange information. You don't do that.
You've just seen my solutions, and although you clearly did not know what the point of the exercise was when you wrote the above, by now might. If you can, look at how far from understanding that point you were, and how little use your answer was to the discussion.
You do seem to be able to discuss areas related to your work, however, as when we discussed the electrical problem I was having in my Mexican home - the brown outs. You were useful there, and I thanked you than and again now for that.
Amusing.

I said ask which saw green and vegetation as a determining factor. That is a no brainer. But you had to turn it into something unrealistic to suit your intellect.

IANS, I understand electricity, and other things. Listen to me.

You have nothing to do.

No anchor. No work to focus on during the day which allows things to cook on the back burner.

You are desperate for finding something to do, so you take these trips into intellectual la la land. You have got tangled in the rope you should have left tied to the ground. That means you are all knotted up and floating out in space, focusing on that know you got yourself in.

This physical world and a certain amount of having to deal with it is a glue for growth. Like plants in soil.

You don't have to hunt and gather for food, you don;t have to till the ground, and you don't have to go to the office and be responsible for something. Your brain has turned into a wispy miasma. Don't take medication, do something really physical.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#187368 Nov 26, 2013
Because you said on this thread that your god is not omnipotent?

Also Dave Nelson thinks your god is subject to "A B C" causality.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What makes you think God is restrained to what we call laws of physics?
How have you confirmed that He is?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#187369 Nov 26, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes and? Are you saying that the radiation of space is the sound of your god talking? go figure the depths to which a godbot will stoop
You said it was impossible, sweetness. Now you dodge when proven wrong.

Lovey dovey, let's get into realities of a much more powerful entity and its force within your little universe.

This universe is like a huge and complicated mobile you would hang over your child's crib. It's positions are very important for the way you stay to together, however. Fine tuned energy transfers.

You don't want a higher power shouting at you to get your attention. Tends to shake that mobile up.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#187370 Nov 26, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Might I ask what happened in medicine that bothered you?
Sure. I've written about in the past, so I'll just link you to some of that:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... [second half of the post; the top half is a repeat of some of what is in the first link]

==========

Were you aware of how unhappy American physicians are, and how many have left prematurely because of it if they can? I had always seen myself practicing until I dropped, maybe until age eighty if I was still alive and functional. That would have been fifty years of service.

But I left at age 55 after just half that many years, and have never looked back. In a way, I should be grateful. I didn't need to work, but did feel a duty to do so. I feel no duty to subject myself to what those posts describe.

And that's just the physician aspect of our desire to move on. I could repeat a similar story as a citizen.

I regret all of that, but not the decision to retire and not the decision to leave - just the degradation of my profession and of the country of my birth that made it the right thing for us to do. From a selfish perspective, I can say that they did us a big favor. This life is much better than the one we left, and we never would have found it without the situation described giving us the impetus to move on.

I hope that was worth your time.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#187371 Nov 26, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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No it doesn’t, however your post proves you are ignorantly stupid.
Yes it does.

E=MC^2, therefore, Capone kidnapped baby Lindberg.

It's science.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#187373 Nov 26, 2013
What color are God's eyes ?

ROFLMAO

Surely these clowns that KNOW God can tell me and all agree, too.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#187374 Nov 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Sure. I've written about in the past, so I'll just link you to some of that:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE... [second half of the post; the top half is a repeat of some of what is in the first link]
==========
Were you aware of how unhappy American physicians are, and how many have left prematurely because of it if they can? I had always seen myself practicing until I dropped, maybe until age eighty if I was still alive and functional. That would have been fifty years of service.
But I left at age 55 after just half that many years, and have never looked back. In a way, I should be grateful. I didn't need to work, but did feel a duty to do so. I feel no duty to subject myself to what those posts describe.
And that's just the physician aspect of our desire to move on. I could repeat a similar story as a citizen.
I regret all of that, but not the decision to retire and not the decision to leave - just the degradation of my profession and of the country of my birth that made it the right thing for us to do. From a selfish perspective, I can say that they did us a big favor. This life is much better than the one we left, and we never would have found it without the situation described giving us the impetus to move on.
I hope that was worth your time.
It's an interesting story.

How is the climate? Services?

I'm thinking of relocating. Is there work to be found for a guy like me?

We could be neighbors.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#187375 Nov 26, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yes it does.
E=MC^2, therefore, Capone kidnapped baby Lindberg.
It's science.
Nope. That is what religion does.

Christianity says Isaiah's child is God and the the King of Tyre is Satan.

Just a couple of the thousands of batcrap crazy lies it sells to the ignorant and stupid.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#187377 Nov 26, 2013
Anon wrote:
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You seem rather defensive when it comes to criticizing the paranormal.
Do you possess "special powers" Bucky?
Yes, I do.

I am an Indigo Child.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#187378 Nov 26, 2013
Only if there are 38000+ shades - one for each of the christian sects.
BenAdam wrote:
What color are God's eyes ?
ROFLMAO
Surely these clowns that KNOW God can tell me and all agree, too.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#187379 Nov 26, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
IANS, I understand electricity, and other things. Listen to me. You have nothing to do.
I'm not clear how you got from the beginning of that to the end, but you are correct. My days are my own.
Dave Nelson wrote:
No anchor. No work to focus on during the day which allows things to cook on the back burner.
Thank you for your interest, but I am really quite happy. My days are full, and I hope to have thousands more just like the last thousand. I am grounded in my marriage,my social life, and my intellectual pursuits, which include reading, this kind of exchange of information, and most recently, an avid passion for contract bridge.
Dave Nelson wrote:
You are desperate for finding something to do, so you take these trips into intellectual la la land. You have got tangled in the rope you should have left tied to the ground. That means you are all knotted up and floating out in space, focusing on that know you got yourself in.
One of the things I like least about you is this kind of posting. It indicates to me what you want for me - unhappiness. I am sure that you are unhappy, and that you experience me as somebody that makes you feel worse about yourself. Sorry. I'm just trying to share what I think are interesting and perhaps helpful ideas, not compete with you.
Dave Nelson wrote:
This physical world and a certain amount of having to deal with it is a glue for growth. Like plants in soil. You don't have to hunt and gather for food, you don;t have to till the ground, and you don't have to go to the office and be responsible for something. Your brain has turned into a wispy miasma. Don't take medication, do something really physical.
It obviously serves you in some way to lecture me, but you have nothing to offer, Dave. Your thinking is undisciplined, your knowledge base is limited and corrupted with misinformation, your judgment is poor, your psychology is negative, and your philosophy is sterile.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#187380 Nov 26, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Nope. That is what religion does.
Christianity says Isaiah's child is God and the the King of Tyre is Satan.
Just a couple of the thousands of batcrap crazy lies it sells to the ignorant and stupid.
Really? Again?!

Ugh

Ezekiel 28:2

“‘In the pride of your heart you say,“I am a god; I sit on the throne of a god in the heart of the seas.”
But you are a mere mortal and not a god,"

Satan is a mere mortal?

C'mon Benidis, you can do better.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#187381 Nov 26, 2013
"Is that an imaginary prison?"
"Yes Buck, in your mind it is. In-di-go then."
Buck Crick wrote:
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Yes, I do.
I am an Indigo Child.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#187382 Nov 26, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I do.
I am an Indigo Child.
You're part squid ?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#187383 Nov 26, 2013
Once again RR shows that his religion is nothing but being a scumbag liar.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#187384 Nov 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I'm not clear how you got from the beginning of that to the end, but you are correct. My days are my own.
<quoted text>
Thank you for your interest, but I am really quite happy. My days are full, and I hope to have thousands more just like the last thousand. I am grounded in my marriage,my social life, and my intellectual pursuits, which include reading, this kind of exchange of information, and most recently, an avid passion for contract bridge.
<quoted text>
One of the things I like least about you is this kind of posting. It indicates to me what you want for me - unhappiness. I am sure that you are unhappy, and that you experience me as somebody that makes you feel worse about yourself. Sorry. I'm just trying to share what I think are interesting and perhaps helpful ideas, not compete with you.
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It obviously serves you in some way to lecture me, but you have nothing to offer, Dave. Your thinking is undisciplined, your knowledge base is limited and corrupted with misinformation, your judgment is poor, your psychology is negative, and your philosophy is sterile.
Your world is artificial. You think you are "informing " us of something. I am informing you of reality.

I used to have a passion for double deck pinochle we played in the Army.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#187385 Nov 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What other species in other universes?
List one of them.
Just one.
How does a person list one thing?

Do you know what a list is?

Geez.

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