Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#185802 Nov 19, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. hi ya Chris ..
.. because non-believers do not financially support churches, in many instances a portion of their disposal income goes to worthy charities ..
.. here's something to consider: DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS ..
.. although the beliefs of these physicians are never made public, I know for a fact that a large percentage are atheist. They freely donate their time to help those in need. That's as good as donating money to charities ..
.. to think atheists do not help the less fortunate is a misnomer ..
Médecins Sans Frontières, same team, it was originally a French charity that has grown. I have a few friends who are deeply involved with them

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185803 Nov 19, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> What is the starting point of extreme wealth, purfesir? Im mostly retired now but a few years ago 100% depreciation of equipment was allowed. Paid no tax on 7 figures, go figure. And there wont be any on an eventual sale, which would be taxable, due to doing like kind exchanges. The streets are paved with gold here in America. When you have a highly appreciated stock , don't sell, just borrow against it at low low intrest, ta da, no tax . I love America.
Seven figures!!!

How 'bout that job?

I will do anything you need done, and it'll cost you a lot less than seven figures.

Really, if it can be done, I can do it.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#185805 Nov 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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No.
I just want a government that enforces the **existing** laws on an **equal** basis-- instead of favoring the filthy rich as it does not.
I want a tax system that is **equal** across the board--without **any** ridiculous deductions-- especially NONE for religion.
A simple, flat tax would be fair-- everyone--no matter how rich-- pays the same percent.
But you ReThuglican/TeaBagging azzholes are too **greedy**.
Or if you're NOT rich?
You are just plain stupid: anyone who votes TeaBagger? And is not in the 1%? Is a complete fool.
Good luck getting a flat tax. That actually would be the fairest method of taxation. Certainly the most egalitariian.Ignoring your seemingly innate need to be be rude,I would like to know how holding government accountable for pissing tax money away translates to being greedy? The left in America love the word sustainable when discussing natural resources but act as if that is its only use. Increasing the debt is not sustainable...period. The WASTE in government spending is beyond criminal.But by your reasoning the only people who should be concerned about that are the people footing the bill.So anyone who objects to government excesses MUST be the guys paying the bills or stupid for caring. Nice.
Bongo

United States

#185806 Nov 19, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No, those are not the features to which you referred in your alleged "proof".
You changed your story.
Your contention is, or, more accurately, "was", since you have spun off of that claim, was that the failure of the claim of perfection proves the Christian god does not exist.
You even looked up reference from formal logic sources to support that specific claim.
Then I proved your claim is bull shit.
I did so using logic properly, not as you attempted to use it.
You are batting O so far.
So, youre obeying the rules of contradiction?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#185807 Nov 19, 2013
Freebird USA wrote:
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Good luck getting a flat tax. That actually would be the fairest method of taxation. Certainly the most egalitariian.Ignoring your seemingly innate need to be be rude,I would like to know how holding government accountable for pissing tax money away translates to being greedy? The left in America love the word sustainable when discussing natural resources but act as if that is its only use. Increasing the debt is not sustainable...period. The WASTE in government spending is beyond criminal.But by your reasoning the only people who should be concerned about that are the people footing the bill.So anyone who objects to government excesses MUST be the guys paying the bills or stupid for caring. Nice.
Taxes should be derived on the benefits derived and the wealth needing protection.

Bill Gates has a lot more to lose than you or I do. His fortune would collapse if not for the system we have to protect it. He should be paying considerably more than you or I to do so. I am not making a dime off of his wealth,
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#185808 Nov 19, 2013
redneck doesn't even know what omnipotent means.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
No think about it
Bongo

United States

#185809 Nov 19, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Seven figures!!!
How 'bout that job?
I will do anything you need done, and it'll cost you a lot less than seven figures.
Really, if it can be done, I can do it.
I need your tenacity and arguing proficiency do deal with planning boards, town boards , zoning board of appeals and other difficult agencies. The lawyers and other advocates are pussies. They are to worried about keeping friends. You are probably handy with the various bull work and keeping other workers in line.
Bongo

United States

#185810 Nov 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Lying creationists have no proof behind this religious drivel.
They are content with ignoring simple questions like "where is the proof of the god your creationist cult sent you here to lie to us about?"
Drivel? Septic, you are dishonest, even if youre a faithless bastard for aany of the various reasons you cant honestly dispute the life and works of Jesus. Tell me what was wrong with the man?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185811 Nov 19, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Health insurance mandates are relatively insignificant. Benghazi, too.
Gesundheit.

"Insignificant", likely not, to the dead guys' families.

Significant enough for President Obamajab and Hillary Clinton to lie their asses off about it for weeks.

And have a guy who put out a youtube video locked up.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#185812 Nov 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I did say let's put this in a human perspective.
Did ya miss that part?
Why should God stop tornadoes or typhoons? He's given people the sense to live somewhere safer. They choose not to.
Why is that God's fault.
It's not any god's fault, as I see it.

That's because I don't believe in your god or any other ones.

I'm just pointing out the flaws in your own beliefs.

Your silly response points out those flaws very clearly: You believe your god gave those poor Filipinos "the sense" to move to Beverly Hills. But he forgot to give them even the air fare.

Some god you've got. He answers "no" to prayers, and sits idly by while thousands die and hundreds of thousands lose their homes.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185813 Nov 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Buck, you're a f*cking criminal for f*cks sake.
Nobody's perfect.

...and some of the charges were never proven.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185814 Nov 19, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Your football avatar reminds me of Al Bundy. You think about the old days of football like him. Only difference is youre violent and probably get fed better. I don't think he is as damaged from traumatic early life events as you are. He had some good insults for Marcy. You have some good ones for topix atheists.
That hurt my feelings, Bongo.

I'm serious.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#185815 Nov 19, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> How sure are you that virtuanna is Nano?
I'm 99.999996 percent certain that virtuanna is nano.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#185816 Nov 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why?
God doesn't see time like we do. We're only here about 75 years, that's a blink of an eye to God.
He's given us the tools to do what we need to do and to do what we should do.
All we have to do is use those tools.
Some of us do, some of us don't.
<quoted text>
You're comparing a person to God.
Tsk, tsk, tsk mon capitan...
<quoted text>
Why?
What the hell does TIME have to do with your analogy? And just how do you come by this knowledge that Gods time is different from out time? You can't even prove your God exists, yet you claim to know that his time frame is different from ours. Very weird.

Yes I'm comparing God to a person, it's the ONLY frame of reference any of us have. You, by the way, were the one who thought it a good idea to make comparison's in "human" terms You can do it, but I can't?

And you have avoided the question, so typical for you Christians when faced with questions you have no answer for. So once again..........just to give you another opportunity to avoid the question.

The truck your driving is loaded with food and water, the children from this devastated area are dying of thirst and starvation, do you stop and save their lives or continue? If you continue, are you a bad person?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#185817 Nov 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are amusing, IANS.
Rarely have I seen such a cogent, persuasive, logical rebuttal.

Must be because you're sober at this time of day.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#185818 Nov 19, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Small pockets because Atheism IS a small pocket of the population. We don't have the resources that organized religion has. Nothing like the all powerful Catholic church, or the thousands of religious organization in the bible belt, so OBVIOUSLY our donations could NEVER match those from religious organizations. Isn't it the thought that counts, the gesture? One individual was moved enough by this disaster to personally raise $100.000 he was an Atheist.
You still own an apology to all those who cared enough about the tornados and the typhoon to go out of their way to help.
I can give a devastated area 100.000 million dollars, or I can give one person a crust of bread, tell me the difference as far as caring for one another is concerned.
My good music Doctor you have spoken the truth. Every little bit does help when it is heaped together for the good of our fellow man.

Even taking the time to go and donate blood is a worthy charitable donation. The injured and cancer patients need that blood. I hope you are also a contributor to a charity at some level.

[tipping hat]

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#185819 Nov 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said God isn't all powerful.
You really have a hard time reading, don't you?
Yes, you have said your god isn't all powerful.

This isn't a ping pong game.

Actually, we elites call it table tennis.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#185820 Nov 19, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Buck is just a fantasist who likes sweaty men.
Buck is not sharp enough to understand infinity.
<quoted text>
Oh. Buck is not sharp enough to understand infinity, huh?

Buck says infinity is an imaginary concept, and is only useful in representations in theoretical math and physics.

No real quantity can be infinite. There can be no infinite measure of anything. It is impossible.

Now, educate me, Tinker.

Where am I wrong?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#185821 Nov 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh.
So if you have faith in that airline pilot, you're just being gullible.
Or if you have faith in your woman when she tells you that she loves you, you're just being gullible.
You're weird.
Ahh, I see you are confused once again. You are confusing TRUST with FAITH. I TRUST the airline pilot because I am aware of the training that they go through, and am also aware of the skills they possess. So I am totally justified in my trust, gullibility never enters the conversation.

The women that says she loves me, I would know very well, I would TRUST her feelings, I would be familiar with her personality, her beliefs, her background and would have TRUST that what she says is true, once again gullibility never enters the conversation.

I have TRUST in things, I will grant trust, but it is not blind trust, trust is accompanied by proven facts, and by repeatability. The pilot that has logged in hundreds if not thousands of hours flying is an example of repeatability.

You have FAITH because you have no TRUTHS, only a belief.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#185822 Nov 19, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
The guy paying for it is paying for it.
It's his money.
Not mine; not yours', not the government's.
He has a proprietary claim on money he works for and earns.
You and I have none.
No.

The guy paying funds 50 percent of the cost of dinner.

The taxpayer funds the remaining 50 percent.

It's a "business deduction" on his taxes. Unless you consider that one guy asking another "How's business?" transforms the culinary feast into a business meeting, the joke is on the taxpayers and the laughs go to the celebrants.

Bottom line, chnging your wording a bit: The fortunate fellow acquires a proprietary claim on money he didn't work for and didn't earn: the taxpayers did that.

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