Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Nov 18, 2013
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I had a similar idea once:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Idea!
I've often thought that Bibles should be treated like the movie The Wizard of Oz. Recall that reality, which was set in Kansas, and which appeared on screen only at the beginning and end of the movie, was filmed in black and white, whereas the fantasy world of Dorothy's dream of Oz while she was unconsciousness from the tornado was shot in color.
Couldn't we have Bible's like that? When we're in fantasy mode, like with the talking snake and the six days of creation, the printing could be in color to tell us that they were just kidding.
But when they got to the factual parts - the drop dead serious stuff such as the parts about zombies rising from the dead, for example - it would be in black and white.
Helpful idea or not?
That is not impressive.
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You initially wrote "lightening", a basic schoolboy error on your part.

I know linguistics is achingly important to you.
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, lightning bolts have been around for a long time.
You can google it.
Here is an example:
http://www.google.com/imgres...

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There are things even God can't do, young man.
Creating the logically impossible is one of them.
The Trinity is bunch of crap. Agreed.
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Perchance you'd be better off wondering why you worship a god you admit is not all powerful.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I wonder, do you ask so many questions about everything you claim "probably" doesn't exist?
Do you troll unicorn threads?
Do you troll Santa threads?
Unlikely.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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That's an argument about linguistics, not God.

Moron.
Your signature is perfect for you.
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My feeling too, but I don't know how to conclusively disprove there is no trinity.

What I do know is that there is no all powerful compassionate god because there is evidence of avoidable suffering.
BenAdam wrote:
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The Trinity is bunch of crap. Agreed.

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Nov 18, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
You initially wrote "lightening", a basic schoolboy error on your part.
I know linguistics is achingly important to you.
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That's not linguistics.

That's spelling.

You can google it. It means the process of arranging letters in a word.

Hope that's helpful.

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. tracking, tracking, tracking ..
QUESTION
In another forum, Christians regularly claim they love each other. What's the value in that?
You'll never get invited to the Christian orgies.

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#185461
Nov 18, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
Perchance you'd be better off wondering why you worship a god you admit is not all powerful.
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If a god cannot be all-powerful, what other type of god could one worship but one that is not all-powerful?

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A little while back I posted a link to a vice.com documentary about men who burn themselves in protests against something. I think it was called The Burning Men.

It led off with an account about some guy in some part of the old Soviet Union protesting the corruption of the new government that was hurting the common man. So one day he felt compelled to light himself up, which I believe did lead to some changes there.

But the interesting thing is he survived and in this story recounted how the pain only lasted 10 seconds or so. This is a guy who doused himself in gas and lit the match.

The body shuts off, the mind continues. Shock trauma. Well established phenomenon.

A separation of mind and body. Just some pain for a short while.

There appears to be an innate knowledge of this in human beings. That is why you have them committing suicide, sacrificing themselves to keep others alive, to protest injustices, and other things they feel compelled to do by their mind.

You can try to intellectualize the shit out of the causes for that phenomenon, but you will always come up short in the strictly material mind department. Matter that organizes into life will not destroy itself. It doesn't know how. It just follows action/reaction.

It is one HUGE "could be" to believe such "will" to self destruct can arise out of a random collection of matter gathering.

There is a belief that the body is the temple of God. It is the means to worship this creator of life and consciousness. That temple is created, it will be destroyed, it can be rebuilt. Your life can be compared to a lump of Silly Putty in the hands of a being that can create something out of it. Perhaps trying to communicate with it may get you recycled into something a little better than what you are now. Maybe not.

Or something like that.
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You repeatedly post incomplete definitions.
Buck Crick wrote:
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That's not linguistics.
That's spelling.
You can google it. It means the process of arranging letters in a word.
Hope that's helpful.
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You're not obliged to worship.
Buck Crick wrote:
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If a god cannot be all-powerful, what other type of god could one worship but one that is not all-powerful?

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Thinking wrote:
My feeling too, but I don't know how to conclusively disprove there is no trinity.
What I do know is that there is no all powerful compassionate god because there is evidence of avoidable suffering.
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No, you do not.

Because you do not know whether allowing suffering is compassionate, in the context of eternity and an all-knowing god.

You do not know whether there is a more compassionate outcome to allowance of suffering.

Key words - "you do not know".

So your statement is false.

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Thinking wrote:
You're not obliged to worship.
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That's not what you said.

You expressed dismay that someone would worship a particular type of god.

While also maintaining no other type of god was possible.

If you had said, "Explain why you would worship any god", then your statements would be consistent.

But you did not say that.

Now you said that, after your ill reasoning was pointed out.

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Thinking wrote:
You repeatedly post incomplete definitions.
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I suggested you google it.

Do you want me to do everything for you?

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BenAdam wrote:
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Your signature is perfect for you.
And that stupid face in your avatar is perfect for you, BeenAssFucked.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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And that stupid face in your avatar is perfect for you, BeenAssFucked.
Thank you for being the face of Christianity.

More reasons to avoid your religion like the evil plague it is.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:

There are things even God can't do, young man.
Creating the logically impossible is one of them.
Thinking wrote:
So you believe your god is not all powerful.
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They didn't teach you very good English out there in the UK, did they?

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Nov 18, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:

There are things even God can't do, young man.
Creating the logically impossible is one of them.
BenAdam wrote:
The Trinity is bunch of crap. Agreed.
You & Thinking aren't doing much thinking, are you?

Does it make your life easier to be stupid, perfesir?
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You're wrong.
Buck Crick wrote:
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No, you do not.
Because you do not know whether allowing suffering is compassionate, in the context of eternity and an all-knowing god.
You do not know whether there is a more compassionate outcome to allowance of suffering.
Key words - "you do not know".
So your statement is false.

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