Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Game Over”

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#183347 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I was hoping you would tell me that you died for several days and dug yourself out of a grave. And that’s how you know there’s no life after death.
You’re like me, you have never died, yet. That means you are just making an assumption. That assumption is not based on a real death experience.
Dave Nelson is going to be mad at you for saying that.

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#183348 Nov 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
And THIS is what Theists build their lives and those in their families around:
THE BIBLE: Back when the bible was written, then edited, then rewritten, then rewritten, then re-edited, then translated from dead languages, then rewritten, then edited, then rewritten, then given to Kings for them to take their favorite parts, the rewritten, then translated again and given to the pope for him to approve, then rewritten, then re-edited again, then re re re re re rewritten again, all based on stories that were told ORALLY 30-90 years AFTER they happened to people who didn't know how to write..so........!! pitiful!!!!!!
Kind of does stretch the imagination, doesn't it, and we know that even one person witnessing an event will tell it differently, in most cases, each time he tells it, and if passed from person to person the story may get to the final person with no details at all matching what was first told. That is human nature. That very detailed conversations, and eye witnessed events could be passed from person to person over many decades, and have any semblance of what the first person said, is likely impossible for human beings, except for the very few people who have the mental problem of total recall, which certainly would not be the case of people in a small area over many decades. Even today with video and audio coverage of events, what actually occurred is not always what it appears to be. They had no such devices back in those days.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183349 Nov 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are in full projection mode. That means you don't "see" a damned thing, just your own thoughts blurting out into the void. You aren't looking at the light of your projections bouncing back to you.
Do you have **any** facts?

No?

Do you have **any**...**proof?**?

Still no?

Interesting.

Since: Sep 08

Alamosa, CO

#183350 Nov 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I did a very long reply to your comment, and posted it a few minutes ago, but it appears to have been lost. If it doesn't appear, know that at least I did try to respond. Because of the length of it, I do not want to have to retype the whole thing, other than I had no memory of anything while unconscious during either of my drowning experiences, which would have been perhaps 10 minutes tops, the first time, and perhaps 15 or 20, the second, but I was receiving oxygen during most of that time, because otherwise I would not be here typing today. Rescuers applied mouth to mouth resuscitation both times, as soon as they got to me, so I was told.
So your consciousness was totally blacked out? Zero, zilch?

What about the realization you were drowning before such happened?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183351 Nov 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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But they appear to cause a reaction within your thick skull, Yoda man, to cause a response.
Not a void, just an empty enclosed space catching waves and sloshing around a bit.
Do you have **any** facts?

No?

Do you have **any**...**proof?**?

Still no?

Interesting.

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#183352 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Christianity is blamed for all the evils in the world. While all the good such as helping the homeless, feeding the hungry, building and supporting schools, hospitals, medicine, fresh water, first aid, shelters, medical research, grief support, elderly support, drug interdiction, drug and alcohol rehab, clothing the disadvantaged, shoes for the needy, school supplies for poor children,…………….
If charities depended upon Atheist. There would be no charities.
For the Atheist motto: Me, myself, and I.
If we all stayed atheists, you would not need charities.For there would be equality and a relevant public education system.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#183353 Nov 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Yes, that is the one :) The audacity of those who were trying to scam their way into making that a legal course appalled me. It is a wonder that the USA has education at all with those types sitting on the school boards.
Made me blink at the time, also.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183354 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
Dedicated to all our Veterans.
[Snappy Salute]
What is?

I bet you are Republican: who have just **cut** the SNAP programs-- much of which went to feed returning VETS!

It seems that you salute the vets-- but are unwilling to see that they get **jobs** and **food** and **housing** after they leave service.

That is some "salute" you got there...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183355 Nov 10, 2013
boooots wrote:
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Yes, that is the one :) The audacity of those who were trying to scam their way into making that a legal course appalled me. It is a wonder that the USA has education at all with those types sitting on the school boards.
Did you see the interview of the azzhole True Believer™ who was responsible for it all?

He wrecked his local economy, he destroyed the school district's budget, and he had **absolutely** no regrets for having done so!

He was one sick ***ck.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#183356 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Where was there a talking snake? Could you refer to the scripture please. What happens to the human body when it decomposes completely after death? What's left behind? These minerals left behind from complete decomposition are they found in the earth?
Where was the talking snake? Really? You don't read your bible at all do you Eagle. I doubt you have ever once cracked your holy book, how unbelievably sad. Once again I'm here to prove that almost all Atheists know more about your holy book that the Theists who build their life around it.

You'll find the account of the talking snake in Genesis 3:4-5 and 3:22

In Genesis 3:3 The serpent "REPLIED" "Ye shall never surely die." And then in Genesis 3:4 The snake said "That if she eats the fruit of the tree, the tree in the midst of the garden, Ye will be as God knowing good and evil."

Your analogy is flawed, the dirt your God scooped up had NO remains from dead bodies, he was creating the very FIRST human. Try again!!!! And forfucksake, READ your bible every once in a while, I grow weary of educating you in both science and your own holy book!!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183357 Nov 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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None owes justification for their beliefs, unless they state their beliefs are facts.
They damn well do require justification when they try to **force** said beliefs into **law** and into **society**.

Such as forcing idiotic 10 "commandments" onto public lands-- commandments of which they **never** actually follow themselves.

Such as forcing "under god" or "in god we trust" onto public and secular venues (nevermind it does not say **which** god, does it? out of the millions humans have created so far...)

Such as forcing their idiotic notions of "education" onto defenseless children.

Such as forcing their own ugly religious bigotry onto **all** women, regardless of what the woman in question may or may not believe herself: such as anti-abortion, anti-contraceptives, anti-insurance-paying-contrace ption, etc.

So they damn well **do** need to justify their ugly beliefs!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#183358 Nov 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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There is no question that you do.
In your feeble mind I'm sure thats true.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#183359 Nov 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>if I were you I'd be ashamed to admit I was Irish. Go have another drink mick!!!!
Oh, he's not Irish.

I am, and I know that the Irish educational system is much better than that.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#183360 Nov 10, 2013
Try that again in English.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Anyone who enters hell and had the chance to go to heaven. Has royal f*cked themselves over for eternity. Sorry, I won’t be sending any postcards from heaven.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183361 Nov 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Not only would eternal life be unpleasant, I see it as an actual hell. Every goal that you ever wanted to achieve would be realized, everything you ever desired would be realized, and then what? Another thousand years to look forward to, and then another million, and what will you now do with every goal you ever wanted fulfilled? No matter what you aspire to, no matter how many goals you could think of, all would be fulfilled and you'd be left with NOTHING. An endless string of nothing, millions of years with nothing, this is the true hell, and comically this is what Theists live and breath for, pitiful. As Woody Allen once said, "eternity is a really long time, especially toward the end."
Yes.. and to make it worse?

These idiots believe in a "utopian" heaven: where there cannot be any losers.

Thus? No games or sports of **any** sort-- no losers? No competition.

And in heaven? There can be allowed no shyt and no urine.

Thus? Absolutely **no** eating or drinking. None of that-- for if it was allowed? You'd have to allow urine and feces... not in **heaven**.

No sex in heaven, either...

... this one is obvious: all marriages are "until death"-- thus? No marriages in "heaven". And we all know that sex outside of marriage is strictly forbidden in "heaven" -- so no sex of any kind.

So.

The "parties" will be booooooring in the extreme: no sex, no drinking, no eating, no dancing (do I really need to explain that one?) no party games, none of any of that.

"heaven"?

It sounds like an endless forced existence of ...

...**hell**.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183362 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I can tell you this they don't use satellite tracking. They don’t carry a magnetic ship compass.
There internal navigation system is superior than anything man has created. Which leads me to believe they were purposely designed that way. And please spare me the song and dance that evolution did it.
wrong... birds have an internal magnetic compass.

This has been proven on several occasions by scientists.

But they also use visual cues too.

And migration patterns are passed from one generation to the next.

Proof? Birds raised in captivity away from their wild cousins, do not know how to migrate properly-- they are very bad at it, or they just do not migrate at all.

So you are so full of it, your eyes are brown.

Since: Jul 10

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#183363 Nov 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Not only would eternal life be unpleasant, I see it as an actual hell. Every goal that you ever wanted to achieve would be realized, everything you ever desired would be realized, and then what? Another thousand years to look forward to, and then another million, and what will you now do with every goal you ever wanted fulfilled? No matter what you aspire to, no matter how many goals you could think of, all would be fulfilled and you'd be left with NOTHING. An endless string of nothing, millions of years with nothing, this is the true hell, and comically this is what Theists live and breath for, pitiful. As Woody Allen once said, "eternity is a really long time, especially toward the end."


Reminds me of a short story I read once, most of the details I have forgotten. It seems a scientist was experimenting with making a time travel machine, and he was using various animals to experiment on in his machine. He would place a cat or a dog in the machine and turn it on and set a dial or something that would take them to some future date or past date, and he would leave the animal there for a very short few minutes and then turn the machine off, and the animal always would come out of the machine completely terrified, and would run off, likely very confused. He could never seem to understand what might have caused such a thing in such a short time, so he decided the only way to find out was to put himself into the machine, and do the traveling himself. I am guessing he must have had an assistant to operate the controls, so that he could come back. Anyway, he did find out why the animal was crazed, because inside the time machine the animal (or person) experienced an eternity of time, and so when they appeared to return in only a few minutes, they had experienced it as an eternity, and it completely blew their minds.

I cannot imagine an eternity that I would want to be in either. Even having the most wonderful experiences, that I could imagine, forever, I would think, would become very difficult to tolerate after billions or zillions of years. Certainly sitting at the foot, or even at the right hand of God, has no appeal to me at all. Even the 72 virgins that the Muslim terrorists expect when they blow themselves up seems like pretty much a disappointment. If they were 72 well experienced women, then it might be okay for a while, but what on earth would a person do in eternity with 72 virgins?

No offense intended to any Muslims here other than the offense the idea innately has anyway. I do have a Muslim sister-in-law. Personally I feel the people who brain-wash those people before they kill themselves should suffer the most horrible hell, but kept alive for a very long time, here on earth. Of course, one could say the same for those in the free world who convince their young to go off to some godforsaken country half way around the world to possibly come home in a box, or perhaps a baggy, or missing various body parts but still hanging on to life. All of that has an element of evil to it.

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#183364 Nov 10, 2013
Wonderful. This time I posted it successfully twice.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#183365 Nov 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
If charities depended upon Atheist. There would be no charities.
Bullshyt.

Google Bill And Melinda Gates foundation-- atheists, and one of the largest charities in the world.

Warren Buffet is another atheist, who also does charity work.

Another atheist charity? Doctors without borders is **deliberately** secular, by intent (even though some members are theists--they are forbidden to proselytize their religion while representing DWB).

The fact is? There are quite a number of **secular** charities.

You are just to pig-headed to recognize this fact.

You'd rather wallow in your own filth (hate)

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#183366 Nov 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Are you and mac going to share your close call experiences? What you were thinking when they happened?
As as I wrote a little while ago, I wrote a long essay about that which seems has been lost by the system, and I did not think to copy it before hand as I sometimes do, but I did send a condensed version of some of it later. Fear and panic while still conscious, and facing likely death, and nothing during unconsciousness.

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