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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#183138 Nov 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Well... you could join a Universal Unitarian church-- they welcome atheists with open arms.
There is a nice one here in my town, and several of my atheist acquaintances are regular members.
In fact? Their church hosted a Skepticon, which is pretty much all atheists.
:)
I'd join myself-- but I find that I really hate church-- and without the burden of guilt? I just do not care to attend.
:)
I had had my fill of the church mentality by the time I was 14, I don’t think I could cope with the forced hypocrisy.

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#183140 Nov 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>He will get NO forgiveness from me, murdering innocent little babies is unforgivable.
So, BakedBuffoon, then you have never voted for a democrat?

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#183141 Nov 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Atheist love to hold on to the 1920’s children’s interpretation of Noah’s flood. We have moved on and now have indoor plumbing, electric homes, and automobiles that talk.
I do believe there was a massive flood in Noah’s time the encompassed thousands of square miles. But the children’s interpretation, lets just say we moved on. I think it’s time Atheist get up to date with what Christians believe today.
So, basically, even though the bible doesn't say that about the flood, that's what you believe?

I'm shocked - shocked!- that someone would alter the meaning of the bible just to match their own beliefs.

Shocked, I say!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#183142 Nov 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
So I go and do some research on whale evolution.
Holy sh*t that’s some far fetched stuff. Hoofed animals turning into whales?
Call me ignorant or whatever but this evolution crap is right up there with Cinderella’s mice turning into horsemen.
I refuse to believe that crap. You can if you want to but this stuff of wolfs running over a creek and turning into whales is just beyond my imagination. I can’t believe people actually believe that sh*t.
If you believe in that horse sh*t you will believe anything. I'm sorry, I don't believe it one bit.
Yet you believe a being for which you have no verifiable evidence for, scooped up a pile of dirt, blew on it and out popped a fully formed male. This unknown being then ripped out a rib from this man and magically produced a fully formed female who then was persuaded by a talking snake to eat fruit from a magical tree. This you believe without hesitation, go figure.

A wolf running across a stream and immediately turning into a whale is not at all what evolution claims. Thats right up there with Kirk Cameron's model of a crocodile with a ducks head glued on. This is further proof of your childlike inability to process information. Your scientific ignorance is on display when you say "I believe in micro-evolution, but not macro-evolution." You have NO idea how the process of evolution operates, nor do you have a conception of the time involved.

You have the attitude that, "If it's so comp[lex and I can't understand it, if it seems so absurd to (ME) then it can't possibly be true" I'll ask you two questions, only because I'm curious

1.) 99% of ALL scientist world-wide accept evolution as factual. These are well educated, very smart people who have spent their lives studying evolution. Now do you think this many people devoted to this study are wrong?

1.) In 2008 there were 135,000 articles posted in reputable scientific journals in support of the facts dealing with evolution. There were ZERO posted that refuted these facts. Why do you suppose that is?

The proof that whales were once land mammals are as follows, yes, yes, I know you will ignore these facts or try and divert the conversation as you always do when you have nothing intelligent to say. I'm a teacher, and I teach at a very high level, some very complex concepts and I have seen students who were totally unable to process complex concepts, I'm quite sure this applies to you. The other choice is your dumb as a bag of rocks.

Whales were "designed" for an aquatic environment, like all mammals they have lungs and NOT gills. The bare their young live and if the mother does not get under the baby and lift it to the surface for its first breath it drowns. Sperm whales must reduce their heart beat and hold their breath as they dive as much as a mile down to feed on giant squid.

Any natural science museum will display the skeleton of a whale that shows a *vestigal* hind leg. Existing fossil will show the gradual progression of the nostrils moving toward the top of the head, as EVOLUTION attempt to aid in the adaptation from a land mammal to the sea. Remember the ultimate purpose of evolution is survival. NOW, for you this is important in you inability to grasp the time involved in the evolutionary processes (It took about 1 million years for the nostril to move about 10 inches in the head of Rodhocetus, the species the preceded the modern whale.)

In all whales the manus terminal segment of a forelimb corresponds to the hand and wrist. In Right Whales, the manus is short and broad having ALL FIVE DIGITS PRESENT.) In Greenland Whales there is a proximal somewhat pear shaped bone about 8 inches in length and a smaller conical distal bone which represents the femur and tibia respectively.

On one of my previous post I gave you some wrong information in regards to the articles written in support of evolution. It should read, in 2010 there were 235,000 articles in support of evolution and zero against.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#183143 Nov 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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So, BakedBuffoon, then you have never voted for a democrat?
Well thank you for acknowledging your demo God as a baby killer and fetus destroyer, nice job. By not denying my statement you obviously agree he murders innocent little babies. Thanks for the help!!!!
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183144 Nov 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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No you don’t you lying little toad, I quote your post –“That message is this,“I’m a butthead.””
That my dear little godbot IS NOT RESPECT, that is ignorance that disrespects the US constitution.
If the pledge is not a form of worship then why all the objections to restoring to it’s early incarnation by taking the reference to god out? It has been made a form of worship
No he did not show disrespect, he chose to make a stand,(by sitting) and not to follow the sheep. That is not showing disrespect, that is showing individualism and personal sincerity. Nor is it showing what atheism stands for, that my dear is an argument born of ignorance and intolerance.
I am sure that there are many voters who feel as you do, that a person cannot be an individual after all the US is said to be 70 odd percent christian and we know the hatred you pour on the remaining 20 odd percent. And despite the US constitution there are some states that still have rules in place to bar non christians from office, such restriction in personal liberty and freedom of expression a supposedly free county is laughable
If as you say, it is not hurting you then why do you feel that you should comment so abusively and hurl disrespect at his freedom to exercise his choice?
Note that your constitution gives him the right to refuse to stand or recite the pledge. So what you are saying in reviling his actions is that you disagree with the constitution.
You godbots are all the same, you want individual freedom just so long as it’s on your terms.
“you lying little toad”

Well I’ll tell you this, you made me laugh with your comment. Believe it or not I was a horny toad when I was younger.[laughing]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183145 Nov 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So.
If the bible **lied** about the flood?
What **else** did it lie about?
Hmmm?
Bob, go do your dishes. They're stacked up to the ceiling.

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#183146 Nov 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Well thank you for acknowledging your demo God as a baby killer and fetus destroyer, nice job. By not denying my statement you obviously agree he murders innocent little babies. Thanks for the help!!!!
I acknowledge no such god.

And you didn't address the question.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183147 Nov 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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We have been here before and it seems that you have ignored me and my citations
There is clear evidence in the fossil record, however some species have in times past evolved perfect adaptation to their environment they have no need to evolve further.
I though orangutans did drive taxis in New York.
Joking aside, why do you suppose orangutans make any sort of valid argument for the evolution of any other species?
Oh I know, because you don’t have a valid argument, fair enough
I'm sorry, I tried but whales comming from hoofed animals is over the top for even me.[hugs]
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183148 Nov 8, 2013
Just Think wrote:
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So, basically, even though the bible doesn't say that about the flood, that's what you believe?
I'm shocked - shocked!- that someone would alter the meaning of the bible just to match their own beliefs.
Shocked, I say!
[patting your head] Run along kid and take your skate board.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183149 Nov 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you believe a being for which you have no verifiable evidence for, scooped up a pile of dirt, blew on it and out popped a fully formed male. and zero against.
My good music Doctor, there may be some evidence of certain animals evolving to some degree. I have repeatedly said I believe in microbiological evolution. But I’m sorry, I tried and can’t believe whales came from wolves or hoofed animals. Setting aside microbiological evolution it doesn’t matter in life.

It makes absolutely no difference at all. Let’s say we both were in a car accident in Boston. We both ended up at the Emergency Room at the same time. The ER Doctor is not going to ask.“Do you believe whales came from hoofed animals?” Because you say yes, you’re not going to get better care.

Now if I was getting a graduate degree in science. I would tell the professor what ever he wants to here so I could graduate. That’s what a lot of scientist do. They play along because if they said what they really believed when it comes to evolution. They would be collecting trash for the City Solid Waste Department.

Evolution is the only science that has an enforcement arm. Why does it need this extensive enforcement arm? To keep the troops in line when it comes to pseudo science. My good Doctor, I can’t believe all that horse sh*t.

Now as far as how God made Adam? I don’t know how he did it. I just know that the very first recorded CPR was done by God himself on Adam. Thousands of years or even millions of years before modern medicine adopted the practice for saving lives. Now that’s something in the Bible that is relevant to all humans.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183150 Nov 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Well thank you for acknowledging your demo God as a baby killer and fetus destroyer, nice job. By not denying my statement you obviously agree he murders innocent little babies. Thanks for the help!!!!
He has been sweet to my little ones.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#183151 Nov 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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“you lying little toad”
Well I’ll tell you this, you made me laugh with your comment. Believe it or not I was a horny toad when I was younger.[laughing]
Good to laugh when your verbal abuse is pointed out to you eh? Means you have no defense and like a good godbot you are not even going to try, it’s easier just to shrug you shoulders and say “OK so as a good christian I was caught out lying but never mind because god will forgive me”

Totally pathetic copout

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#183152 Nov 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I'm sorry, I tried but whales comming from hoofed animals is over the top for even me.[hugs]
A human being coming from your mother is over the top even for you

Actually no one cares whether it’s over the top for you, it is evidential fact so who actually gives a damn if some fundy does not believe in education?

As usual the fundy deliberately forgets the most important factor – time.

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#183153 Nov 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I acknowledge no such god.
And you didn't address the question.
I acknowledge no god.

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#183154 Nov 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I acknowledge no such god.
And you didn't address the question.
Your cult is full of sh*t and has no proof of god. Now run like a coward from the facts...

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#183155 Nov 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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My good music Doctor, there may be some evidence of certain animals evolving to some degree. I have repeatedly said I believe in microbiological evolution. But I’m sorry, I tried and can’t believe whales came from wolves or hoofed animals. Setting aside microbiological evolution it doesn’t matter in life.
It makes absolutely no difference at all. Let’s say we both were in a car accident in Boston. We both ended up at the Emergency Room at the same time. The ER Doctor is not going to ask.“Do you believe whales came from hoofed animals?” Because you say yes, you’re not going to get better care.
Now if I was getting a graduate degree in science. I would tell the professor what ever he wants to here so I could graduate. That’s what a lot of scientist do. They play along because if they said what they really believed when it comes to evolution. They would be collecting trash for the City Solid Waste Department.
Evolution is the only science that has an enforcement arm. Why does it need this extensive enforcement arm? To keep the troops in line when it comes to pseudo science. My good Doctor, I can’t believe all that horse sh*t.
Now as far as how God made Adam? I don’t know how he did it. I just know that the very first recorded CPR was done by God himself on Adam. Thousands of years or even millions of years before modern medicine adopted the practice for saving lives. Now that’s something in the Bible that is relevant to all humans.
idiots that deny evolution should think before typing.

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#183156 Nov 8, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I acknowledge no such god.
And you didn't address the question.
The question has never changed, and its "Where the f*ck is your proof of god you lying creationist cult member with no evidence?".
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183157 Nov 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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A human being coming from your mother is over the top even for you
Actually no one cares whether it’s over the top for you, it is evidential fact so who actually gives a damn if some fundy does not believe in education?
As usual the fundy deliberately forgets the most important factor – time.
Putting aside microbiological evolution. Because I believe it’s pretty obvious as it is very observable.

The belief of evolution of many animals and humans is like unto a wicker basket gondola. It takes a hell of a lot of hot air to keep it going. Which I might say rather pointedly you are supplying.[smiling]

Keep up the good work.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#183158 Nov 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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idiots that deny evolution should think before typing.
Thank you my good mannered friend. I acknowledge microbiological evolution as it is very observable.

But whales evolving from hoofed animals? That’s a hell of a stretch of someone’s imagination. Maybe it happened but then again maybe Cinderella’s mice turned into horseman.

You guys are going to have to drag me out of the classroom and beat my *ss. After you finished I’m still not going to believe that horse sh*t. It’s just too far fetched for my imagination.

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