Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#182435 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
?
So you do consider yourself elite?
Thank you for the honesty, although it took some doing to get it out of you.
You stink.
Top of the pile, elite, those are your words, not mine.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182436 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[1] A wooden boat made to bible specifications would have broken in half with the first three foot wave.
Answer:
Pure speculation
Why would that a deal killer for a faith based thinker? What aspect of your belief system isn't a speculation? Do you have separate standards for your claims and for their rebuttals?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182437 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing about the story is impossible other than everything about the story is impossible. What was described in the Bible about the Flood did not occur, ever. That is a known fact accepted by many prominent religious denominations of the Christian beliefs in the world. Man has not disproved God, nor will man, because if God does not exist, it is impossible to prove an non-existent thing. Man has proved that the Flood never occurred, could never occur, and will never occur on this planet.
Well... dammit... you mean that lovely post-apocalyptic movie, Water World will never come to be?

You remember the movie-- it had what's is name... Kevin Costco--Cosmo--Cosplay--someth ing. You remember-- the actor with a giant ego?... yes--that guy.

You mean to say his movie could never happen for reals?

I am **so** disappointed right now....

... <snerk>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182438 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
I am watching that now. Well done.
Lewis Black is a comedic genius.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182439 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
When was the bible written?
Which one?

There have been thousands after all.

:)

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#182440 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I've read as many books as you have brain cells. The difference is I understood what they were and how to put them in perspective.
If that is the case, Dave, why is it that you don't show any evidence here of your having done that? Since I am not on Topix much lately, perhaps you showed that when I didn't see it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182441 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no reason to resent it.
You seem to think reaction to your hypocrisy is envy. It isn't.

Dave. You're too well known for that answer. Your resentment of educated professionals was a frequent topic of discussion when I was posting with you last year. Has that changed since then?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182442 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your answer ignores the dilution effect on the ocean.
Even as little as 6 inches of freshwater suddenly appearing over the entire globe would ruin most marine life.
This is because most marine life lives at the very top layers in the ocean-- and are quite sensitive to differences in salinity.
But to make your story match the actual BuyBull(bible)? You'd need... more than a **mile** of freshwater dropping into the ocean...
...*poof** nearly all life in the oceans is suddenly and irrevocably dead.
"Largest Ever Die-Off

The Permian-Triassic extinction event about 250 million years ago was the deadliest: More than 90 percent of all species perished. Many scientists believe an asteroid or comet triggered the massive die-off, but, again, no crater has been found. Another strong contender is flood volcanism from the Siberian Traps, a large igneous province in Russia. Impact-triggered volcanism is yet another possibility.

Starting about 360 million years ago, a drawn-out event eliminated about 70 percent of all marine species from Earth over a span of perhaps 20 million years. Pulses, each lasting 100,000 to 300,000 years, are noted within the larger late Devonian extinction. Insects, plants, and the first proto-amphibians were on land by then, though the extinctions dealt landlubbers a severe setback.

The Ordovician-Silurian extinction, about 440 million years ago, involved massive glaciations that locked up much of the world's water as ice and caused sea levels to drop precipitously. The event took its hardest toll on marine organisms such as shelled brachiopods, eel-like conodonts, and the trilobites."

http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science...

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182443 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
I have no reason to resent it.
You seem to think reaction to your hypocrisy is envy. It isn't.
Catcher1 wrote:
Come on, you've done it before. You do resent people who are at the "top of the pile."
So nothing's changed? Sorry to hear that.

Dave used to be happier than this early in the month. Have they moved check day from the first to the fifteenth or something? He gets crankier when the cigarettes run out.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182444 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
"Largest Ever Die-Off
The Permian-Triassic extinction event about 250 million years ago was the deadliest: More than 90 percent of all species perished. Many scientists believe an asteroid or comet triggered the massive die-off, but, again, no crater has been found. Another strong contender is flood volcanism from the Siberian Traps, a large igneous province in Russia. Impact-triggered volcanism is yet another possibility.
Starting about 360 million years ago, a drawn-out event eliminated about 70 percent of all marine species from Earth over a span of perhaps 20 million years. Pulses, each lasting 100,000 to 300,000 years, are noted within the larger late Devonian extinction. Insects, plants, and the first proto-amphibians were on land by then, though the extinctions dealt landlubbers a severe setback.
The Ordovician-Silurian extinction, about 440 million years ago, involved massive glaciations that locked up much of the world's water as ice and caused sea levels to drop precipitously. The event took its hardest toll on marine organisms such as shelled brachiopods, eel-like conodonts, and the trilobites."
http://science.nationalgeographic.com/science...
Both die-offs are outside the time-frame for the stupid Noah story, which everyone who gives a crap, agrees was a mere 4000 (or so) years back, and no more than 6000 years.

Your examples were **millions** of years back.

So your off-topic comment misses the entire point.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182445 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
So nothing's changed? Sorry to hear that.
Dave used to be happier than this early in the month. Have they moved check day from the first to the fifteenth or something? He gets crankier when the cigarettes run out.
They have adjusted his medications again-- his liver was rapidly deteriorating, and they had to cut back.

Or so it seems like.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182446 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
So you do consider yourself elite? Thank you for the honesty, although it took some doing to get it out of you.
Of course he's an elite. But he didn't say that - you did.
Dave Nelson wrote:
You stink.
This kind of bitterness and resentment can't be healthy for you, Dave. You should focus on your own accomplishments and not begrudge others theirs. Doctor's orders!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182447 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Both die-offs are outside the time-frame for the stupid Noah story, which everyone who gives a crap, agrees was a mere 4000 (or so) years back, and no more than 6000 years.
Your examples were **millions** of years back.
So your off-topic comment misses the entire point.
It is you and some scholars that limit that time. Not the Bible.

As I have pointed out a couple of times, Noah's survivors are the ones that told the story. There was no one else, even the lineage of Cain. Noah was Adam and Eve via Seth. There was a pre-existing civilization that was said to be influenced by the "sons of god". They taught all of the skills and knowledge that Noah's line then carried on after it was obliterated. But you realized there were only eight. Took a while before a civilization arose again.

This is something I haven't looked at. The children of Adam and Eve took wives from who knows where. Those mystery wives. Some genetic mixing there. Did Noah's children take "strange women" as wives?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#182448 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he's an elite. But he didn't say that - you did.
<quoted text>
This kind of bitterness and resentment can't be healthy for you, Dave. You should focus on your own accomplishments and not begrudge others theirs. Doctor's orders!
IANS, you are a displaced god. Quit your whining and pontificating. You are one of us now.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182449 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
They have adjusted his medications again -- his liver was rapidly deteriorating, and they had to cut back. Or so it seems like.
Alcohol and prescription drugs are a poor combination. But thank God for the VA and public assistance. Where would people like Dave be without it? I sure hope the Republicans leave him alone.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#182450 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
IANS, you are a displaced god.
Aw, shucks. I do what I can.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182452 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
It is you and some scholars that limit that time. Not the Bible.
LOL!

You are really reaching here--- seriously, you must live in a world made entirely up of your delusions and fantasizes.

No **wonder** they put you on such strong medication!
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182453 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Alcohol and prescription drugs are a poor combination. But thank God for the VA and public assistance. Where would people like Dave be without it? I sure hope the Republicans leave him alone.
our US Military mostly likely feeds them drugs -making them psychotic ... did you During WW2 the NAZI gOVT FEED THEIR sOLDIERS WITH PHYSICAL- ENHANCING DRUGS to keep soldier in top performing performance and alert and effect turn them into Pyscho-killing machines...
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182454 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing about the story is impossible other than everything about the story is impossible. What was described in the Bible about the Flood did not occur, ever. That is a known fact accepted by many prominent religious denominations of the Christian beliefs in the world. Man has not disproved God, nor will man, because if God does not exist, it is impossible to prove an non-existent thing. Man has proved that the Flood never occurred, could never occur, and will never occur on this planet.
RAB - Random Access Babbling
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#182455 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL!
You are really reaching here--- seriously, you must live in a world made entirely up of your delusions and fantasizes.
No **wonder** they put you on such strong medication!
In reference to your comment about wooden ships.

Wow, National Geographic!

With all those color photo’s and everything. The same magazine that printed the "Archaeoraptor” in 1999. A faked and fraudulent evolutionary fossil that fooled millions.

Of course they overlooked these ships as a historic fact. How Atheist of them.

(420×58 ft) Tessarakonteres

(377×46 ft) Thalamegos

416×170 ft) Chinese treasure ship

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