Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182481 Nov 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Why would that a deal killer for a faith based thinker? What aspect of your belief system isn't a speculation? Do you have separate standards for your claims and for their rebuttals?
Speculation, hunches, and guesswork all lack evidence to seal the deal sort of speak.

Atheist such as yourself often require concrete bomb proof scientific facts from Christians. It would only be proper etiquette to expect the same in return from Atheist.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#182482 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Noah was the very first survivalist. They had a long time to work out all the little details. Survivalist are known at being well prepared and thinking far in advance.
The bible doesn’t go into great details. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a septic compartment. Where the waste would naturally decompose by bacteria and then be released.
Just because the bible doesn’t mention a septic system doesn’t mean they didn’t have one. You don’t have a wife.
But those of us that do know if we take them camping. We had better have all those little details worked out in advance. The females on the Ark were no different.
If they didn’t have a septic system. They deserved all the grief the females gave them.
Right because a sudden deluge in ancient times was predicted years ahead of the event and the populace was notified by Carrier pigeons. That God was fabulous Meterologist.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182483 Nov 2, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
ex-US senator J. William Fulbright
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Who are the self-appointed emissaries of God who have wrought so much violence in the world. They are men with doctrines who believe in some cause without doubt who practice their beliefs without scruples. Men who cease to be human beings and become instead living breathing embodiments of some faith or ideology.
As far as Mr. J. William Fulbright goes.

I don’t know if those were his words.

He had a long congressional career so someone liked him. He’s described in wikipeida as being a segregationist. He was known to have signed a racial segregationist piece known as the “Southern Manifesto.”

This means he fell on the wrong side of history in that racially biased decision. If he said those words you quoted then he fell into religious bigotry as well as racial bigotry.
Not something I would particularly be proud if I was him. But I can see where Atheist would take a liking to him.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182484 Nov 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Right because a sudden deluge in ancient times was predicted years ahead of the event and the populace was notified by Carrier pigeons. That God was fabulous Meterologist.
That's what I'm been trying to tell you, he's cool.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182485 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Time is an artifice of man.
Speaking of which. Clock changing time tonight.
Goodnight all.
You Topix atheists. say your prayers thanking whatever started religion for your being here. It civilized man, and gave you your education. Don't be ungrateful bastards.
Thanks Dave for reminding everyone about the time change.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182486 Nov 2, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You ignored [2],[5],[6],[7],[8],[16].
Too much for you to refute?
Obviously.
I used the 12 gauge shotgun method in shooting that can.

I didn’t get every letter but filled it with enough holes to send it to the bottom.

That’s why I favor shotguns. You know your going to do a hell of a lot of damage to them cans.

[pumping slide engaged forcing shell into the chamber]

Always willing to do a little can shoot’n and a good friend a favor.

[tipping hat]

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#182487 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The earth is not a closed system. No more than a molecule passing an electrical current. It has a basic structure that passes mass and energy through it. It even has magnetic and gravitational fields that captures matter. I'm not aware of them finding giant catapults to get rid of that yet.
Continual solar wind, asteroids, comets, water vapor clouds. There is a lot of stuff out there that invades or get sucked into our system.
The earth is 4.5 billion years old?
How long did it take to accrete all of that mass just from gravity? Remember it was supposed to be clouds of space dust that came together.
What about all of the space dust and directed matter as from the sun in those 4.5 billion years since?
Fully formed Earth less than 10 billion years after the BB and nothing added on in the last 4.5 billion years?
You should quite reading books and blindly accepting them as "truths" about your creation and start thinking about what you read.
How do you quite read a book?

This is so typical of you and the rest of the fundies Dave. The old bait and switch technique.(Yes you are a fundie. You can't claim to be a Deist when you talk so much like a fundie. Don't say a word.., you're a fundie and you know it.)

The conversation you butted in on was concerning the story of Noah's Arc. Eagle was trying to qualify how the entire world could flood with water, like it says it did in the Bible, and then how all the water receded. For all practical purposes, the atmosphere is a closed system. The amount of water on Earth can increase by comet strikes, however, that would have taken a ridiculously large amount of comet strikes to flood the entire world. However, let's say that it happened, and several comets with a combined mass of about a quarter of the moon or so had hit the earth and caused it to flood. Where did all that water recede to? It's fun to discuss Noah's Arc because it's one of the most far fetched and ridiculous stories in your Bible, yet Christians will still try to defend it and make sense of it, because the only other option is to admit that the book which they base their entire belief system on is nothing but a bunch of fairy tales.

Now you claim to not be a fundie, but watch how you rear up now in defense of your Bible and spew out a bunch of convoluted EM theory that "proves" the world could have actually flooded and then how the water magically receded.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182488 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as Mr. J. William Fulbright goes.
I don’t know if those were his words.
He had a long congressional career so someone liked him. He’s described in wikipeida as being a segregationist. He was known to have signed a racial segregationist piece known as the “Southern Manifesto.”
This means he fell on the wrong side of history in that racially biased decision. If he said those words you quoted then he fell into religious bigotry as well as racial bigotry.
Not something I would particularly be proud if I was him. But I can see where Atheist would take a liking to him.
he talking about dangers of Radical /militant Fundamentalism of Christianity and how it taking Christianity into thr hell hole.

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#182489 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Overnight is fine. I will nudge you at breakfast time.
Dave, this is the third time you've made someone throw up today. You should have to pay for all that wasted food.

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#182490 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Dave for reminding everyone about the time change.
Unfortunately Dave screwed up again. You're supposed to stay up later tonight, not go to bed earlier. But that's Dave for you.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182491 Nov 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Regular delivery or overnight?
I almost farted again.

If you had typed it in baby-talk, that would have done it.

“A witty saying proves nothing”

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#182492 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Noah was the very first survivalist. They had a long time to work out all the little details. Survivalist are known at being well prepared and thinking far in advance.
The bible doesn’t go into great details. But I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a septic compartment. Where the waste would naturally decompose by bacteria and then be released.
Just because the bible doesn’t mention a septic system doesn’t mean they didn’t have one. You don’t have a wife.
But those of us that do know if we take them camping. We had better have all those little details worked out in advance. The females on the Ark were no different.
If they didn’t have a septic system. They deserved all the grief the females gave them.
Eagle... the entire world was covered in water to dilute all that shit. We have hundreds of cruise ships dumping their shit into the oceans every day...(not that that's a good thing). I'm sure all the animals just hung their asses out the window. If God could make them swim across thousands of miles of ocean to get to the arc, he surely could have window trained them.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182493 Nov 2, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>he talking about dangers of Radical /militant Fundamentalism of Christianity and how it taking Christianity into thr hell hole.
That's so strange because he is listed in wiki as being a "Disciple of Christ."

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#182494 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The gulf that separates us from Gobekli Tepe's builders is almost unimaginable. Indeed, though I stood among the looming megaliths eager to take in their meaning, they didn't speak to me. They were utterly foreign, placed there by people who saw the world in a way I will never comprehend. There are no sources to explain what the symbols might mean. Schmidt agrees. "We're 6,000 years before the invention of writing here," he says."
"Hodder is fascinated that Gobekli Tepe's pillar carvings are dominated not by edible prey like deer and cattle but by menacing creatures such as lions, spiders, snakes and scorpions. "It's a scary, fantastic world of nasty-looking beasts," he muses."
""There's more time between Gobekli Tepe and the Sumerian clay tablets [etched in 3300 B.C.] than from Sumer to today," says Gary Rollefson, an archaeologist at Whitman College in Walla Walla, Washington, who is familiar with Schmidt's work. "Trying to pick out symbolism from prehistoric context is an exercise in futility.""
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeo...
It appears religion predates civilizations.
Born atheist?
It appears you have no idea wtf they were doing there, but you can make an assumption.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#182495 Nov 2, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I almost farted again.
If you had typed it in baby-talk, that would have done it.
Hi Buck. Fancy meeting you here.

Nice pic. You were such a cute baby.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#182496 Nov 2, 2013
Clark Griswold wrote:
<quoted text> Eagle... the entire world was covered in water to dilute all that shit. We have hundreds of cruise ships dumping their shit into the oceans every day...(not that that's a good thing). I'm sure all the animals just hung their asses out the window. If God could make them swim across thousands of miles of ocean to get to the arc, he surely could have window trained them.
You need to come up to modern times and ditch the old 1920’s interpretation. Today we have cars that start with a push of a button. We don’t have to go out in front of the vehicle and crank a lever.

We have like washers and dryers and modern appliances. We don’t use the outhouse anymore. We have bathrooms with plumbing.

It’s time to get up to date. You are way out of date with how people believe today.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182497 Nov 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Buck. Fancy meeting you here.
Nice pic. You were such a cute baby.
Now that one IS funny. Credit where due.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182498 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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That's so strange because he is listed in wiki as being a "Disciple of Christ."
Not thing strange, he just warning about dangers of corrupted mans in power can infiltrate Christianity those radicals like US fundie christians, and US right wing Christian coalition and permeate US Govt/military and other institutions.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#182499 Nov 2, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Buck. Fancy meeting you here.
Nice pic. You were such a cute baby.
Let's get the ole gang together and start a brawl. I mean a regular fu**ing fist-to-skull, boot-to-balls knock-down and drag-off.

...or maybe I have you mixed up with somebody.
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#182500 Nov 2, 2013
Sen J. William Fulbright
'n
If, as time goes on, our country continues to be chronically at war, continues to neglect its domestic problems, and continues to have unrest in cities and on campuses, then militarism will surely increase. And even if the military itself does not take over the government directly, it could—because of increasing use in domestic crises—come to acquire power comparable to that of the German General Staff in the years before World ,War I.

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