Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#181635 Oct 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Theists don't hate you IANS, you're just a lunatic running loose and that makes them nervous.
Why would theists be nervous?

What can happen?

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#181636 Oct 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Gee, you are the neverending zit.
Is this the "poetic mode" you mentioned?

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#181637 Oct 28, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope it comes up around 80 times more water required than actually exists on earth
Not that much smaller dave. Average 40 tons a day for say 4000 years
About 580,400,000 tons
The earth weighs about 6,584,766,850,000,000,000,000 tons
A mere drop in the ocean.
The crust is less than 1/100th of the radius of the earth. Within that crust and the mantle is a lot of water.

The average elevation of land on a global scale is a few feet above sea level.

Your global warming claims massive flooding just from melting glaciers.

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#181638 Oct 28, 2013
Dave the loser have been down voting everyone who isn't a christard like he and up voting himself and other christards

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#181639 Oct 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Why would theists be nervous?
What can happen?
I attribute it to the "Tinkerbell Jesus" effect.

Many seem to believe that their deity requires belief to exist.

"If I believe it hard enough it is so."

I thought most people outgrew that stage of mental development by puberty. I was very wrong.

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#181640 Oct 28, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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I attribute it to the "Tinkerbell Jesus" effect.
Many seem to believe that their deity requires belief to exist.
"If I believe it hard enough it is so."
I thought most people outgrew that stage of mental development by puberty. I was very wrong.
If you don't believe you can make a daredevil jump to save your life, would you even try?

Belief is objectives you try to reach.

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#181641 Oct 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Is this the "poetic mode" you mentioned?
I thought it was a rather good allegory.

I don't give a shit what you think.

That was non-rhyming poetry, catheter.

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#181642 Oct 28, 2013
Mikko wrote:
Dave the loser have been down voting everyone who isn't a christard like he and up voting himself and other christards
Amusing as Sweden assisted Hitler in World War II

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#181643 Oct 28, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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If you don't believe you can make a daredevil jump to save your life, would you even try?
Belief is objectives you try to reach.
Agreed.
Sanity is realizing you can't fly by jumping of a cliff naked.

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Södertälje, Sweden

#181644 Oct 28, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Amusing as Sweden assisted Hitler in World War II
IBM assisted Nazi germany in World War II

USA supported Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,....

I'm not a Swede!

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#181645 Oct 28, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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IBM assisted Nazi germany in World War II
USA supported Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,....
I'm not a Swede!
Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,....were not Swedes

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#181646 Oct 28, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein,....were not Swedes
Didn't say that!

Christianity and Christians assisted Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler!
LCNlin

Marietta, GA

#181647 Oct 28, 2013
Atheist religion talking points re: Hitler
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#181648 Oct 28, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Didn't say that!
Christianity and Christians assisted Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler!
Germany was duped by a mad man. A zealot that was able to persuade millions with his radical speeches. From the bowels of Austria, he came forth.

I will not stoop so low to call you a liar. Nor will I deny millions of believers inside of Germany had been deceived by this manic depressive. They fell into a cult like movement which was wicked to its very core.

But those 100’s of millions of believers outside of Germany were not deceived. They took up arms in Europe and outside of Europe to bring this monster and his wicked empire down.

Germany paid a high price both in loss of life, property and country. A divided country they became.

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#181649 Oct 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Dr Phill is a low-grade moron. Seriously-- he's not a real doctor of anything.
He's just another show-boating moron.
Lol,

Dave Letterman game him h*ll for the longest talking about his bone head.

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#181650 Oct 28, 2013
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<quoted text>So you are saying that the bible is wrong when it gives the date of Noah's flood? You're as much as saying the biblical time-line is invalid. Good for you for recognizing how untrustworthy your holy book is when it comes to any science matters.
Yes, you are right to believe what Dr. Ballard has found, the Black Sea Deluge, which undoubtedly flooded a huge portion of land. Now, did you see ANYWHERE were Dr Ballad mentioned a (WORLD-WIDE FLOOD?) Did he mention the earth flooded to the extent where entire mountain ranges were covered?
Do yourself a friggin favor and do just a little research on the subject, that way you won't look so fuckinstupid.
For the third time the Bible doesn’t list a date of Noah’s flood. Genealogy is listed.

Despite what you believe is impossible. The entire Earth must have been covered up in water at one time because there are marine fossils on mountain tops. I’m not claiming that was from Noah’s flood. I’m just saying water covered the earth at one time or most of it.

Even at the top of the Grand Canyon’s South Rim is evidence of marine fossils.

I have stated many times that Noah’s flood was massive and encompassed thousands of square miles. We see floods like that even today in the United States. Did it cover the entire global earth? Probably not but it did cover the earth where people lived. So the Earth as they knew it flooded.

Now why would you try to make us believe that a flood could not happen in Noah’s day when floods happen today in our time?

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#181651 Oct 28, 2013
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For the third time the Bible doesn’t list a date of Noah’s flood. Genealogy is listed.
Despite what you believe is impossible. The entire Earth must have been covered up in water at one time because there are marine fossils on mountain tops. I’m not claiming that was from Noah’s flood. I’m just saying water covered the earth at one time or most of it.
Even at the top of the Grand Canyon’s South Rim is evidence of marine fossils.
I have stated many times that Noah’s flood was massive and encompassed thousands of square miles. We see floods like that even today in the United States. Did it cover the entire global earth? Probably not but it did cover the earth where people lived. So the Earth as they knew it flooded.
Now why would you try to make us believe that a flood could not happen in Noah’s day when floods happen today in our time?
Why would you try to make anyone believe the flood happened at all?

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#181654 Oct 28, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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For the third time the Bible doesn’t list a date of Noah’s flood. Genealogy is listed.
Despite what you believe is impossible. The entire Earth must have been covered up in water at one time because there are marine fossils on mountain tops. I’m not claiming that was from Noah’s flood. I’m just saying water covered the earth at one time or most of it.
Even at the top of the Grand Canyon’s South Rim is evidence of marine fossils.
I have stated many times that Noah’s flood was massive and encompassed thousands of square miles. We see floods like that even today in the United States. Did it cover the entire global earth? Probably not but it did cover the earth where people lived. So the Earth as they knew it flooded.
Now why would you try to make us believe that a flood could not happen in Noah’s day when floods happen today in our time?
Apparently those at the creation museum disagree with you on the entire earth being covered during the Noah flood.

creation-magazine noahs-ark the-flood
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Many Christians today think the Flood of Noah’s time was only a local flood, confined to somewhere around Mesopotamia. This idea comes not from Scripture, but from the notion of “billions of years” of Earth history.
But look at the problems this concept involves:
If the Flood was local, why did Noah have to build an Ark? He could have walked to the other side of the mountains and missed it.
If the Flood was local, why did God send the animals to the Ark so they would escape death? There would have been other animals to reproduce that kind if these particular ones had died.
If the Flood was local, why was the Ark big enough to hold all kinds of land vertebrate animals that have ever existed? If only Mesopotamian animals were aboard, the Ark could have been much smaller.1
If the Flood was local, why would birds have been sent on board? These could simply have winged across to a nearby mountain range.
If the Flood was local, how could the waters rise to 15 cubits (8 meters) above the mountains (Genesis 7:20)? Water seeks its own level. It couldn’t rise to cover the local mountains while leaving the rest of the world untouched.2
If the Flood was local, people who did not happen to be living in the vicinity would not be affected by it. They would have escaped God’s judgment on sin.3 If this happened, what did Christ mean when He likened the coming judgment of all men to the judgment of “all” men (Matthew 24:37–39) in the days of Noah? A partial judgment in Noah’s day means a partial judgment to come.
If the Flood was local, God would have repeatedly broken His promise never to send such a flood again.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#181655 Oct 28, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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For the third time the Bible doesn’t list a date of Noah’s flood. Genealogy is listed.
Despite what you believe is impossible. The entire Earth must have been covered up in water at one time because there are marine fossils on mountain tops. I’m not claiming that was from Noah’s flood. I’m just saying water covered the earth at one time or most of it.
Even at the top of the Grand Canyon’s South Rim is evidence of marine fossils.
I have stated many times that Noah’s flood was massive and encompassed thousands of square miles. We see floods like that even today in the United States. Did it cover the entire global earth? Probably not but it did cover the earth where people lived. So the Earth as they knew it flooded.
Now why would you try to make us believe that a flood could not happen in Noah’s day when floods happen today in our time?
The date seems pretty clear here in Genesis 6-11, Don't you believe your own holy book?

Noah’s Ark and The Flood: Genesis Chapters 6-11

The events of The Flood and Noah’s Ark begin with the Death of Methuselah on Friday September 13 – Tishri 1 in 2458 BC (BR). Noah’s Family enters the Ark 47 days after the death of Methuselah’s on Wednesday October 30 – Heshvan 10 in 2458 BC (BR). This same day on the Gregorian-Hebrew Solar Calendar (GH) is Wednesday March 19 – Adar 29, 2449 BC. Genesis 7:11-12 tells us that 7 Days later, on Wednesday November 6 – Heshvan 17, it began to rain “for forty days and forty nights.”

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#181656 Oct 28, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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IBM assisted Nazi germany in World War II
...!
Respectfully, I think this statement is slightly askew and an over simplification. A business arrangement that side-stepped usual business protocols and new IBM factory in Germany, one could argue, were about all IBM assisted in. The usage of the technology by the Nazis to track and cross reference its own people (Jews and otherwise) was not an IBM activity.
Also note, the United States business with IBM during this same time period dwarfed the arrangements IBM made with Germany. Why not claim the IBM was assiting the US?

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