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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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christINSANITY is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#179506 Oct 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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The real reason you are not going away is because you have no life. I know you could do this forever and will, as if you would ever have something better to do. You have no clue how stupid someone would be to take you seriously.
Projection ,,again

LLLLLL
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179507 Oct 9, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I think you will find that in the majority of these African nations ravaged by war that the population are very devout believers in god.
For the most part the christian god or the Moslim god. Oh wait a moment, it’s the same god, the god of Abraham
You bring up a good point. Christianity has grown in Africa since the 1900‘s. Lumping in Christians in the same category as Muslims works for Atheist. In reality it’s like trying to mix oil and water.

Africa today has 54 countries. Most of the continent remains unstable due to terrorism by radical extremist particularly of the Muslim Faith. We have had our share of radical terrorism right here in the United States. But Africa is a hot bed of terrorism which seems to be growing because governments aren’t able to keep them in check.

Rest assure that Atheist are no safer in these countries than visiting Christian Missionaries. The only difference is they may use a dull knife cutting the head off an Atheist versus using a sharp one on a Christian.

But to the question Bob asked. God is not a micro-manager. He allows mankind to govern himself and that goes all the way from major governments to each of us individuals. So why does God allow this to happen and that to happen?

If you ever get the chance to work for a micro manager on your job you should at least one time. Micro managers are terribly inefficient and end up costing companies in the bottom line.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179508 Oct 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
MEANINGFUL! Seriously? Nothing anyone post here is meaningful. You want me to post this essay I spend a few hours, in research to put together. On a topic, I really think you have no interest in, and you have clearly displayed that. In the end you wouldn't even have the reading comprehension to get what is being said, and if you did you'd be too bull headed to admit I was correct. I could not think of a bigger waste of time. I told you right from the start, I can't help you. On top of all this, I do believe you when you tell me you have no soul.
When anyone posts something that is evidence for a claim it IS meaningful. You are too funny in your refusal to post anything at all that could be considered evidence. First you say it would be a waste of your time, then it's I won't be able to comprehend this evidence, its one failure after another. You can't even define what this soul thing is. You have it but others don't. I'll ask you some very simple questions, and I'll bet you either refuse to answer them or, you are unable. I'll choose UNABLE.

1.) Define in simple terms exactly what constitutes a soul.

2.) Is this soul a physical part of our, or yours anyway, body?

3.) Are we all born with a soul?

4.) If not born with a soul, what is the procedure for acquiring one?

5.) Why do you have a soul and others do not?

6.) For those without a soul, in what way are they different?

7.) Is there a significant advantage to having a soul over not having one? What are those advantages?

8.) Once you have a soul can you ever lose it? If so how?

Now I'll sit back and wait for your twisting and turning every which way in order to avoid answering these very simple questions
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179509 Oct 9, 2013
Why would I support militant Atheist billboard campaigns?

There has been a resent kickback from religious groups responding to Atheist. Messages on Billboards in California and Electronic Boards in Times Square, saying,“To our Atheist Friends, Thank God you are wrong.”

Personally I think the Atheist Billboard messages in the past have been good for Christian Believers. It turns the dial up on the gas feed on the ole boiler. From low fire to high fire. Who else could get Christians all fired up more than militant Atheist?

And that’s what we’re seeing here in places like Times Square. If I was a director over Atheist marketing. I wouldn’t allow billboard signs or any newspaper incendiary adds. Because what does it do? It fires up the Christian base.

But militant Atheist think they are helping Atheism by placing billboards up. I think they (Atheist) are doing a good job motivating their opponents. And their opponents need motivation, ha, ha, ha………..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179510 Oct 9, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring up a good point. Christianity has grown in Africa since the 1900‘s. Lumping in Christians in the same category as Muslims works for Atheist. In reality it’s like trying to mix oil and water.
Africa today has 54 countries. Most of the continent remains unstable due to terrorism by radical extremist particularly of the Muslim Faith. We have had our share of radical terrorism right here in the United States. But Africa is a hot bed of terrorism which seems to be growing because governments aren’t able to keep them in check.
Rest assure that Atheist are no safer in these countries than visiting Christian Missionaries. The only difference is they may use a dull knife cutting the head off an Atheist versus using a sharp one on a Christian.
But to the question Bob asked. God is not a micro-manager. He allows mankind to govern himself and that goes all the way from major governments to each of us individuals. So why does God allow this to happen and that to happen?
If you ever get the chance to work for a micro manager on your job you should at least one time. Micro managers are terribly inefficient and end up costing companies in the bottom line.
If your god is only doing the "big picture"?

Then there is absolutely zero reason for you to pray.

None at all-- as your god really doesn't give a shyt about little old insignificant you.

But.

You did claim that your god was ... what did you say? Oh yes, "good to you".

In short?

You think your god **micromanaged** your fate, personally.

Your inconsistency is showing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179511 Oct 9, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
Why would I support militant Atheist billboard campaigns?
There has been a resent kickback from religious groups responding to Atheist. Messages on Billboards in California and Electronic Boards in Times Square, saying,“To our Atheist Friends, Thank God you are wrong.”
Personally I think the Atheist Billboard messages in the past have been good for Christian Believers. It turns the dial up on the gas feed on the ole boiler. From low fire to high fire. Who else could get Christians all fired up more than militant Atheist?
And that’s what we’re seeing here in places like Times Square. If I was a director over Atheist marketing. I wouldn’t allow billboard signs or any newspaper incendiary adds. Because what does it do? It fires up the Christian base.
But militant Atheist think they are helping Atheism by placing billboards up. I think they (Atheist) are doing a good job motivating their opponents. And their opponents need motivation, ha, ha, ha………..
To address a point you made earlier:

Not all christians are the same.

Interesting.

So your god isn't the same for each different brand of "christian"?

Right?

Why?

Is it some sort of "big picture" uncaring game he's playing at?

Or?

Is it that your god simply isn't real.

That is the **only** explanation for the fractured nature of all of christianity....

... that there is no actual god behind any of it.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#179512 Oct 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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How could anyone that post under a hidden location call someone a coward....
Why don't you post your real name, address and phone number ?

Goddam Hypocrite!

Since: Sep 10

Redondo Beach, CA

#179513 Oct 9, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Thanks, Silky Pants.
How 'bout that Crimson Tide, huh?
Hope we get to sacrifice some west coast team in the championship game.
Fresh sausage.
They are some kind of good.

But it's playoffs now for the national championship.

We shall see.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179514 Oct 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
If your god is only doing the "big picture"?
Then there is absolutely zero reason for you to pray.
None at all-- as your god really doesn't give a shyt about little old insignificant you.
But.
You did claim that your god was ... what did you say? Oh yes, "good to you".
In short?
You think your god **micromanaged** your fate, personally.
Your inconsistency is showing.
It shant not matter what thee thinkth oh little one of the forrest. For thine words have already been tossed thru yonders window. Out into the abyss from where they come.

For I shant not be fooled by your foolery. So I do bid thee to jump thru yonders window to catch thy own pitiful words you poor inconsequential creature.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179515 Oct 9, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
To address a point you made earlier:
Not all christians are the same.
Interesting.
So your god isn't the same for each different brand of "christian"?
Right?
Why?
Is it some sort of "big picture" uncaring game he's playing at?
Or?
Is it that your god simply isn't real.
That is the **only** explanation for the fractured nature of all of christianity....
... that there is no actual god behind any of it.
For thy mind is misaligned and has been radically skewed. Such a pity that thy thoughts are so full of fecal stoppage. Take some strong laxatives and eat a big bowl of pinto beans that was not pre soaked. That should clear your mind.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179516 Oct 9, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Why don't you post your real name, address and phone number ?
Goddam Hypocrite!
You first ole ye brave one in the forrest hidding among the trees.
Bongo

United States

#179517 Oct 9, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"Lard ass".
Bwahahahaaa...I like that.
Nice touch, Bono.
Hows life treating you renown indigo child?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#179518 Oct 9, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know about all that, Charcoal King.
But I know it's my ex-wife's fault I like to be whipped while having sex.
Just sayin'.
Now you sound like Al Bundy! xD

Was your ex a peggy, too.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#179519 Oct 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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The poor dear. She really can't help it. She was overeducated beyond her abilities and is dependent on her "enlightenment" and intelligence provided by her social network, discussing the intricacies of existence over a cup of tea.
You think she really has a lard ass? A shame if true. I would hope she had one socially redeeming value. I confess I have been a bit mesmerized watching her display it on here so much. I just thought her head was fat.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#179520 Oct 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Lovey, the whole basis of the BBT is based upon physical phenomenon we understand. One is you don't get heat unless you have a load on an energy source. Friction is one method, which is something on the atomic level. It is even caused within the atomic level by charge displacement, which is caused by motion. The dense hot singularity? Heat is motion, though not what we call in a coherent manner. Basically it is a vibration caused by stress on atomic structure. The singularity got hot. Whatever it was got stressed out and blew a fuse. There is a circular logic to the theory.
You have the vaguest notion of what energy is. Just words you heard. Your "education" is just indoctrination by someone who stared up into the sky and told you what they think, not by your reasoning for yourself based upon what you DO know.
Define energy for us in your own words. What it is and how it came to be.
Nope you are again confused, what you are should be claiming is the BB caused energy to expand which generated heat

At the BB stage of the universe atoms did not exist so you atom analogy is irrelevant.

What gives you the impression that a singularity it hot? There is no evidence, nor given current technology can there any evidence either way. So you are guessing.

There may be a circular logic you your interpretation of the theory but not to cosmological theories.

And again you are guessing about my education because you are clueless of my education, This is a very bad habit you have, it may if course consolidate your davesworld dream but actually bares no resemblance to reality

You have asked this before and I have responded by stating that you are requesting the contents of a 3 year university course on topix. Such godbot simplistic (mis)understanding explains your confusion.

So define which energy? There are several sorts (14 that I know of) and sources (millions, billions, trillions, who knows), this appears to be where you fall down, its a concept that you are incapable of understanding.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#179521 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not Christian but "all will be forgiving".
You certainly come across as a lying christian but hey, sorry if I misunderstood your ignorance.

Wrong, until you apologise publicly for telling godbot lies in public then you will not be forgiven

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#179522 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
The real reason you are not going away is because you have no life. I know you could do this forever and will, as if you would ever have something better to do. You have no clue how stupid someone would be to take you seriously.
How wrong and yet another godbot lie, truly expected.

You are the one who LIED, you are the one who insulted the memory of my grandfather for no other selfish and cowardly reason than the hope of gaining yourself extra god points

Do you actually realise how STUPID and deliberately ignorant making such lies in public reflects on you?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#179523 Oct 10, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
How could anyone that post under a hidden location call someone a coward. I doubt very much that is your real name. You have to be without a soul.
My location is not hidden if you care avert you’re your eyes from your deliberately ignorant blindness you would see that my avatar tells you Leyland (or close enough). I live literally just outside Leyland, Leyland is the closest town.

And what you doubt is irrelevant. Who actually cares what you doubt, we know you are a guess merchant and liar anyway.

When you finally grow a set of balls and admit that you repeated a godbot lie for no other reasons than your own deliberate ignorance and belief that you would earn extra god points (how pathetic) that coward brand may even begin to dissipate.

You are too cowardly to apologise for your abuse of the many atheists who gave there lives so that you could lie about them because you don’t actually see you LIE as wrong, as immoral. That is the mark of true christian fundamentalism even if you claim not to be a christian

Of course I am without a mythical soul, that black magic is your belief however I consider myself to be far more moral than you could ever be, for example unlike you, I would never lie. And if you blame lying for your god on a soul that is just pathetic.

Long live your god crutch, you will need it

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#179524 Oct 10, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope you are again confused, what you are should be claiming is the BB caused energy to expand which generated heat
At the BB stage of the universe atoms did not exist so you atom analogy is irrelevant.
What gives you the impression that a singularity it hot? There is no evidence, nor given current technology can there any evidence either way. So you are guessing.
There may be a circular logic you your interpretation of the theory but not to cosmological theories.
And again you are guessing about my education because you are clueless of my education, This is a very bad habit you have, it may if course consolidate your davesworld dream but actually bares no resemblance to reality
You have asked this before and I have responded by stating that you are requesting the contents of a 3 year university course on topix. Such godbot simplistic (mis)understanding explains your confusion.
So define which energy? There are several sorts (14 that I know of) and sources (millions, billions, trillions, who knows), this appears to be where you fall down, its a concept that you are incapable of understanding.
?

Total evasion. Reflecting total lack of understanding of what you claim to know.

Just like a woman.

Which of those 14 you know of is the E in your favorite formula?

As I asked, define energy.

The singularity that expanded is always represented as being extremely hot and dense. That is a math model used to "explain" the distribution of energy throughout the ubiverse. If NASA comes back online after the shutdown, check their description.

Basically, according to modern physics, a creation event occured very, very suddenly. A magic poof. You have posted references to it repeatedly.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#179525 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring up a good point. Christianity has grown in Africa since the 1900‘s. Lumping in Christians in the same category as Muslims works for Atheist. In reality it’s like trying to mix oil and water.
Africa today has 54 countries. Most of the continent remains unstable due to terrorism by radical extremist particularly of the Muslim Faith. We have had our share of radical terrorism right here in the United States. But Africa is a hot bed of terrorism which seems to be growing because governments aren’t able to keep them in check.
Rest assure that Atheist are no safer in these countries than visiting Christian Missionaries. The only difference is they may use a dull knife cutting the head off an Atheist versus using a sharp one on a Christian.
But to the question Bob asked. God is not a micro-manager. He allows mankind to govern himself and that goes all the way from major governments to each of us individuals. So why does God allow this to happen and that to happen?
If you ever get the chance to work for a micro manager on your job you should at least one time. Micro managers are terribly inefficient and end up costing companies in the bottom line.
Why are you sick a sick minded moron? You dream of beheading atheist with a dull knife, that is so sad, it’s sick and is a definite indictor of your intolerance taught to you by the babble. Tell me are those nails in your wrist and ankles a real christian joy?

Wrong, your god, one of over 3700 claimed gods does not exist, has never existed. However if you want to believe in the godmagic of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves because it satisfies your blood lust then that’s fine.

I have more business acumen than to employ a micro manager however since when did world governance come under the heading of micromanagement. Oh I get it, you are attempting to make a metaphorical link between the real world and your faith and failing

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