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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179397 Oct 8, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Alas, your wheel is spinning furiously but the hamsters been dead for years.
Sir Robert has been a long time friend.
I don't believe I have never responded to a post of yours before Mr. Stephens
Be advised...
Satan fears me! ;)
He shudders, soils his suit, rams his horns into a Christian sinner and laments...
"Imhotep's awake! Grrr...
That irreligious bastard!
I just do not understand it!
Every evil I heap upon him slides off like pimples on an Italian!
Goddamnit, he pisses me off.
Allah forgiving my temper.
Constantly mocking my existence with common sense and those damned FACTS.
I begged, in fact pleaded with my alter ego - Jesus, for a lightning bolt or something...
Jesus can't even light Imhotep's joint!
How dare this venomous human taunt me!
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Sacrilege! Liar! I won.
< Everything is so green>
Now I'm hungry and everything here is burnt to "hell in a hand casket" :(
What in the <hell> is a evil demon to do... in the face of reality?
One day... I'll promise...
I'll kick his ass... provided he believes that I exist."
Thanks for the response, I read it with "Stand by your man" playing in the background. You brought a tear to my eye.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#179398 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
For what may be the 20th time, I will explain this to you.(you) are and atheist, you do not believe in souls.
1) Is it because you have none.
I think that is most likely.
2) You just don't want to admit you do have one.
3) You fear the suggestion of a post life trial.
My beliefs is it really is not that bad, but I don't know your story, and I am not asking.
4) The books involved may be beyond your comprehension.
This is not as insulting as you may think. Books of this nature are complex.
You asking me this shows your disrespect for the topic. If you really did want this knowledge you would go buy one of the many books that will teach you this. It is a different culture, which is why answer #4 would very likely apply. For me to post a two plus paragraph answer would be my disrespecting the topic, and I do believe that is your goal. If you don't get what I just told you. You really should read more books, and do start with what you find to be your cup of tea.
It's your mental illness that prevents you from confronting the fact that your're a simple minded religious liar with no evidence to back up any of what you say
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179399 Oct 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
They are philosophers. They don't have any real hands on experimentation with the rest of the universe, just assumptions based upon observations here, and even some of those observations can be called into question for absolute accuracy. They are no different than those that base cosmological beliefs on religious beliefs they read in a book. Textbooks are always being revised. Much quicker and more often than religious textbooks I will add.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0f6SlUU8ikMXX
BTW, the above is for your musical education, one of the latest by Buckethead, who, I will point out, has an exponentially much greater presence on the internet and written history than your self perceived illustrious self. His influence on society is 10^5 greater than yours, tried and true, proven by acceptance and sales. It is a no brainer he has more talent than you. Listen to the man and learn.
Next trip to the park, take some boiled peanuts. Give the squirrels a change of pace and something new.
I refuse to have conversations with the mentally ill, sorry!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179400 Oct 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever his name is because it doesn’t matter. His contribution to science is nil.
Stephen Hawking, the space philosopher, dreamer, theoretical physicist and cult leader. All his so called contribution to science is imaginary.
All he has done is rallied a cult following and that’s it. He’s just a mascot like some schools have a bull dog for a mascot. That’s all he is a freaking mascot.
Aaaah. Professor Stephen Hawking. The smartest man on the planet, today, by nearly any reckoning you wish to use.

I can see why you are so hatefully jealous of his accomplishments.

He is the man who really got the theory of Black Holes rolling along-- and due to his brilliant work? Scientists now know what to look for, and indeed-- have found many-many black holes both in our own galaxy and in the ones nearby.

Did you know that at the center of our galaxy, there is a black hole?

And black holes are one of many things that make your god impossible.

Seriously-- the existence of a black hole, means there can be no infinite, cosmic god.

Sorry for your loss.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179401 Oct 8, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you again for showing us how hateful you and your religion is
and what is a hatheist ?(hat heist?)
/I'm proud to be irreligious!
LMAO!

.... still laughing at your "hat heist".....!

I can see it now-- he's been stealing baseball caps for years...

... LOL!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179402 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
For what may be the 20th time, I will explain this to you.(you) are and atheist, you do not believe in souls.
1) Is it because you have none.
I think that is most likely.
2) You just don't want to admit you do have one.
3) You fear the suggestion of a post life trial.
My beliefs is it really is not that bad, but I don't know your story, and I am not asking.
4) The books involved may be beyond your comprehension.
This is not as insulting as you may think. Books of this nature are complex.
You asking me this shows your disrespect for the topic. If you really did want this knowledge you would go buy one of the many books that will teach you this. It is a different culture, which is why answer #4 would very likely apply. For me to post a two plus paragraph answer would be my disrespecting the topic, and I do believe that is your goal. If you don't get what I just told you. You really should read more books, and do start with what you find to be your cup of tea.
"There is a lot of evidence. I am not even going to waste my time posting it."

This from your post #179090. You claim to have evidence for souls but you are to cowardly to share this evidence. Could it be that is does not exist? Why don't you let ME decide if this book is beyond my comprehension. So post the title of the book and be prepared to post the evidence found therein, otherwise your just another moonbat claiming that which cannot be proven. I can wait!!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179403 Oct 8, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> This is your personal opinion, since you reject science
if is a fallacious one. I already told you his contributions to science. His opinion is different from yours about how the universe was created. That takes nothing away from his contributions to hard science, nor does it make them irrelevant. Your inability to understand that is your mistake.
Basically it's like you are telling the mechanic how to fix your car when...you have no idea what's wrong with it.
It is much worse-- not only is he clueless about cars in general?

He does not own a car, and never has owned one-- at best, he caught a brief ride in a car, long ago in public school. And at the time, he was not paying attention anyhow, as he was sucking his thumb the for the whole ride home...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179404 Oct 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>In science there can be more than one hypothesis. And I seriously doubt there are 20 theories on how life started on Earth. The most accepted answer is biogenesis. Life from non-living. Science is pretty sure that biogenesis is possible they just don't know the exact details just yet.
spawns.
I think you will find this definition of cosmology rather interesting. Notice the word “philosophers” repeated throughout the definition.

Wiki:

Cosmology is the study of the origins and eventual fate of the universe. Physical cosmology is the scholarly and scientific study of the origin, evolution, structure, dynamics, and ultimate fate of the universe, as well as the natural laws that keep it in order.

[1] Religious cosmology (or mythological cosmology) is a body of beliefs based on the historical, mythological, religious, and esoteric literature and traditions of creation and eschatology.

Physical cosmology is studied by scientists, such as astronomers, and theoretical physicists; and academic philosophers, such as metaphysicians, philosophers of physics, and philosophers of space and time.

Modern cosmology is dominated by the Big Bang theory, which attempts to bring together observational astronomy and particle physics.[2]

Although the word cosmology is recent (first used in 1730 in Christian Wolff's Cosmologia Generalis), the study of the universe has a long history involving science, philosophy, esotericism and religion. Related studies include cosmogony, which focuses on the origin of the Universe, and cosmography, which maps the features of the Universe. Cosmology is also connected to astronomy, but while the former is concerned with the Universe as a whole, the latter deals with individual celestial objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179405 Oct 8, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Alas, your wheel is spinning furiously but the hamsters been dead for years.
Sir Robert has been a long time friend.
I don't believe I have never responded to a post of yours before Mr. Stephens
Be advised...
Satan fears me! ;)
He shudders, soils his suit, rams his horns into a Christian sinner and laments...
"Imhotep's awake! Grrr...
That irreligious bastard!
I just do not understand it!
Every evil I heap upon him slides off like pimples on an Italian!
Goddamnit, he pisses me off.
Allah forgiving my temper.
Constantly mocking my existence with common sense and those damned FACTS.
I begged, in fact pleaded with my alter ego - Jesus, for a lightning bolt or something...
Jesus can't even light Imhotep's joint!
How dare this venomous human taunt me!
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Sacrilege! Liar! I won.
< Everything is so green>
Now I'm hungry and everything here is burnt to "hell in a hand casket" :(
What in the <hell> is a evil demon to do... in the face of reality?
One day... I'll promise...
I'll kick his ass... provided he believes that I exist."
LOL! "The devil went down to Jamaica". Funny stuph.
Imhotep

Asheboro, NC

#179406 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the response, I read it with "Stand by your man" playing in the background. You brought a tear to my eye.
You are welcome. ;)

Background music... ;)

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

Today’s scholars can only use the known, that is historical reigning Roman Emperors as a reference in determining dates.

So, since your Bible clearly and unambiguously claims that Jesus was born during the reign of Herod the King, then he, Jesus, had to have been born no later than 4 B.C.

Irony meter goes boom!

Jesus could only have been born a minimum of four years before the birth of Jesus?

After you stop laughing though, consider the import of this paradox.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179407 Oct 8, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Awe... The Bible is inspired word of God isn't it?
Lol
Here is Matthew routinely ignored for centuries and churches constructed.
Matthew 6:6
And when you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.
Truly I say to you, They have their reward. But you, when you pray, enter into your closet, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father which is in secret; and your Father which sees in secret shall reward you openly.
But when you pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Indeed.

What you just posted pretty much destroys any and all TV preachers, no matter how nice they may have seemed....

;)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179408 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
For what may be the 20th time, I will explain this to you.(you) are and atheist, you do not believe in souls.
1) Is it because you have none.
I think that is most likely.
2) You just don't want to admit you do have one.
3) You fear the suggestion of a post life trial.
My beliefs is it really is not that bad, but I don't know your story, and I am not asking.
4) The books involved may be beyond your comprehension.
This is not as insulting as you may think. Books of this nature are complex.
You asking me this shows your disrespect for the topic. If you really did want this knowledge you would go buy one of the many books that will teach you this. It is a different culture, which is why answer #4 would very likely apply. For me to post a two plus paragraph answer would be my disrespecting the topic, and I do believe that is your goal. If you don't get what I just told you. You really should read more books, and do start with what you find to be your cup of tea.
Nothing you whine about, above?

Is proof of this "soul" thingy.

Nothing.

In fact? You did not even **try** to prove-- not even by **argument** that "souls" are real.

Just more of your mindless drivel.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179409 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I am not a fundamentalist. I clearly state you make your own path. Not just in regards to karma, but also with in your personal belief system. I give you, you know yourself. I am not offering salvation, and I clearly posted here, I can't change you towards my beliefs, and that is why I would not answer the questions you ask, that suggest I would offer you superior change. I do think with your thoughts, you are dicked, and seeking recruitment as many online atheist do, is simply backwards
Yet, the entire sum of your posts to me?

Is one of hate, bigotry, intolerance and more hate.

Why **is** that, do you suppose?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179410 Oct 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>In science there can be more than one hypothesis. And I seriously doubt there are 20 theories on how life started on Earth. The most accepted answer is biogenesis. Life from non-living. Science is pretty sure that biogenesis is possible they just don't know the exact details just yet.
kept us apart for thousands of years. Just think, a new beginning for mankind, one without the divisiveness and hatred that religion spawns.
I think you will find this definition of cosmology rather interesting. Notice the word “philosophers” repeated throughout the definition.

Wiki:

Cosmology is the study of the origins and eventual fate of the universe. Physical cosmology is the scholarly and scientific study of the origin, evolution, structure, dynamics, and ultimate fate of the universe, as well as the natural laws that keep it in order.

[1] Religious cosmology (or mythological cosmology) is a body of beliefs based on the historical, mythological, religious, and esoteric literature and traditions of creation and eschatology.

Physical cosmology is studied by scientists, such as astronomers, and theoretical physicists; and academic philosophers, such as metaphysicians, philosophers of physics, and philosophers of space and time.

Modern cosmology is dominated by the Big Bang theory, which attempts to bring together observational astronomy and particle physics.[2]

Although the word cosmology is recent (first used in 1730 in Christian Wolff's Cosmologia Generalis), the study of the universe has a long history involving science, philosophy, esotericism and religion. Related studies include cosmogony, which focuses on the origin of the Universe, and cosmography, which maps the features of the Universe. Cosmology is also connected to astronomy, but while the former is concerned with the Universe as a whole, the latter deals with individual celestial objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179411 Oct 8, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
You did admit it, to Bongo. Here you are bobbing again.
No-- I never did such a thing, because it never happened.

I was never catholic, for starters.

Can you locate this mythical "admission" you are lying about?

No?

We thought as much-- lying is your stock-and-trade.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179412 Oct 8, 2013
Let me give you the common man’s definition of a philosopher Doctor.

Philosopher: One who orates BS, one who dreams nonsense, while smoking dope, blows smoke circles out his @ss, One who fabricates fictitious beliefs based on science of imagination, a vain cult leader with a cult following.

Doctor, my good Doctor, cosmology is full of Philosophers and cult leaders. It’s right up there with astrology and palm readers.

You can keep following your cult leaders Doctor. I won't think less of you.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179413 Oct 8, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
It's your mental illness that prevents you from confronting the fact that your're a simple minded religious liar with no evidence to back up any of what you say
I have been trying to get a good read on you for some time now. I have come to the conclusion that you have a disfigured malformation. However I don’t know if it was from birth or if it was due to an accident. Perhaps both?

This malformation has isolated you from society as a whole. It’s been the antecedent that has caused great bitterness. This is why you are so full of venom. You are angry at God. The same God you claim doesn’t exist.

Even though you are full of hate and vengeance. God can heal your brokenness and give you a heart of love and compassion. Peace out my friend, I do not hate you.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#179414 Oct 8, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I refuse to have conversations with the mentally ill, sorry!!!
Except with yourself, of course.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179415 Oct 8, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet, the entire sum of your posts to me?
Is one of hate, bigotry, intolerance and more hate.
Why **is** that, do you suppose?
Bob, let's take a coffee break?

Maybe eat some crackers & cheeze?

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#179416 Oct 8, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you will find this definition of cosmology rather interesting. Notice the word “philosophers” repeated throughout the definition.
Wiki:
Cosmology is the study of the origins and eventual fate of the universe. Physical cosmology is the scholarly and scientific study of the origin, evolution, structure, dynamics, and ultimate fate of the universe, as well as the natural laws that keep it in order.
[1] Religious cosmology (or mythological cosmology) is a body of beliefs based on the historical, mythological, religious, and esoteric literature and traditions of creation and eschatology.
Physical cosmology is studied by scientists, such as astronomers, and theoretical physicists; and academic philosophers, such as metaphysicians, philosophers of physics, and philosophers of space and time.
Modern cosmology is dominated by the Big Bang theory, which attempts to bring together observational astronomy and particle physics.[2]
Although the word cosmology is recent (first used in 1730 in Christian Wolff's Cosmologia Generalis), the study of the universe has a long history involving science, philosophy, esotericism and religion. Related studies include cosmogony, which focuses on the origin of the Universe, and cosmography, which maps the features of the Universe. Cosmology is also connected to astronomy, but while the former is concerned with the Universe as a whole, the latter deals with individual celestial objects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology
To us it means this...and this only.

Cosmology is the study of the origins and eventual fate of the universe. Physical cosmology is the scholarly and scientific study of the origin, evolution, structure, dynamics, and ultimate fate of the universe, as well as the natural laws that keep it in order.

Now you can paint the word with a wide brush, but all other meaning to us are...... meaningless.

The scholarly and scientific study of the origin, evolution, structure, dynamics, and ultimate fate of the universe.

Note the key words here. scholarly and scientific.

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