Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179337 Oct 7, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Ha ha ha ha ha ha, this is beyond pathetic. You have lots of evidence but won't waste your time posting it...HAHAHA. Look dumbass, if you had even the slightest bit of evidence you would post it just to rub it in my face that I was wrong and you were right. When people make a claim and they are told it is a ridiculous claim and not true, there is NOTHING more satisfying than to produce the evidence asked for and then flaunt it. You're a lying assclown with not one bit of evidence for your ridiculous claim. I challenged you to produce and you whimped out big time. You FAILED miserably. Too funny, what a dope!!!
One more thing. Let's get back to what is this message tread "Atheism requires as much faith as religion?" When you ask me for prove you are going off topic. The truth is you can not prove that the universe had no creator. You can not prove mankind had no creator. You have faith in your beliefs not fact, and when I say you can't prove it. it is not you personally. With the knowledge mankind no has, it can't be proven. You can't even prove how The universe started. Sure there was a big bang, but was the the first. Was there energy before time? If you had these answers and proven, it would be more valuable than the winning mega ball ticket. Ok continue now, let's jump off topic again.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179338 Oct 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Seriously?
100% of the "alien abduction" is bullshyt.
Anyone believing in that crap, is nuts.
It is just another example of how you take no one's word for anything. When you say "You are lying" it just does not carry much weight.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179339 Oct 7, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Its easy to feel sorry for a fool like you. All those years of submission and singing songs, what a palooka. Just think, you will die in disgust and bitterness.
Bongo let's not leave out because, by his own statements, he has no soul. therefore it is the end. He really should seek help for why he hates believers. He'd suggest I hate atheist. Not at all. I see it more as a 1) political disagreement 2) religious disagreement. Number 1 more so than number 2. The North American atheist are clowns, because they are so political, they have became very much like the groups they are against. I really don't think they should be called atheist.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179340 Oct 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You hypocrite.
Welcome to Hell:
Matthew 5:22
King James Version (KJV)
... but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
New International Version
... And anyone who says,'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
New Living Translation
... And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.
English Standard Version
... and whoever says,‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
New American Standard Bible
... and whoever says,'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
You are a Bible thumper. Dude just become more diverse, in the end you are more Fundie than 99% of America.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179341 Oct 7, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Ahh, my little yellow bellied, chicken livered, spineless moron, this explains why you are totally wrong. Atheism is (even in ancient Greek times) is/was “The belief that no god exists” It has nothing to do with anti religion, that my dear is nothing but your own wet dreams. Most atheists are not anti religious they are anti fooking ignorant and hateful morons like you. If you don’t like that then stop being an ignorant and hateful moron
You also seem to have a very distorted view of the politics of nationalism.
Stalin was christian in childhood tipped for the priesthood and after consolidating his position (by genocide as taught in the babble) he did considerable work to rebuild the christian church. That my dear ignoramus is not the work of an atheist
Mao was Buddist and so irrelevant to you wild claims
And there is more…
Pol Pot spent 16 years in a catholic school learning christian doctrine before decided on a career in genocide (funnily enough, as taught in the babble)
And shock of shock… Hitler was also christian with papal backing (and a papal ambassador to the Reich) What he did he did he did for his belief in god and jesus and was never excommunicated.
Please advise what YOU THINK these vocabulary words should be – how about morality? A word that has been hijacked by christianity and it’s meaning distorted to exclude any other HUMAN BEING that does not believe in their god or their way. The fact that morality was around a long time before a bunch of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves got stoned and had a an idea that they know more then science does today.
How about theory, another word that christianity chooses to distort the meaning. Or church, ditto, or study, ditto, or truth, ditto, or freewill, ditto, or adultery, ditto and finally how about the word atheist that some christians (like you) don’t even understand.
Honey, you make the choice to distort whatever words you want to suite your limited mindset, that does not mean that atheist need to distort the meanings of words to suit your limited mindset. If you are incapable of understanding words then that’s just tough, get educated.
Why should I find your ignorant projection offensive? All I find is that you are a clueless and ignorant moron
What I do find offensive is that you insulted the memory of my grandfather and that you are too chicken sh|t scared explain yourself or to apologise
You are just a fountain of misinformation, making all your condescending comments, compliments. Thank you.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179342 Oct 7, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Bob
I am back for 2 weeks in Tennessee.
And... What do I find?
Idiot government! Lol
What the hell... is the USA going raving mad in my absence?
I hope you and family are well.
Puff piece # 666 - GHS
Christianity cannot erase man's need for pleasure, nor can it eradicate the various sources of pleasure. What it can do, however, and what it has been extremely effective in accomplishing, is to inculcate guilt in connection
with pleasure. The pursuit of pleasure, when accompanied by guilt, becomes a means of perpetuating chronic guilt, and this serves to reinforce one's dependence on God.
Christianity, with some exceptions, has never explicitly advocated human misery; it prefers instead to speak of sacrifices in this life so that benefits may be garnered in the life to come. One invests in this life, so to speak, and collects interest in the next. Fortunately for Christianity, the dead cannot return for a refund.
Through inculcating the notion that sacrifice is a virtue, Christianity has succeeded in convincing many people that misery incurred through sacrifice is a mark of virtue. Pain becomes the insignia of morality - and conversely, pleasure becomes the insignia of immorality. Christianity, therefore, does not say, "Go forth and be miserable". Rather, it says, "Go forth and practice the virtue of self-sacrifice".
In practical terms, these commands are identical.
In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must convince men that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from.
Christianity has nothing to offer a happy man living in a natural, intelligible universe.
If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, man is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.
I am Imhotep® and I approve this post.
All the humorous side... ;)
BOEHNER: OBAMA STUBBORNLY REFUSING TO END CRISIS I CREATED
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) said that he was disappointed after meeting with President Obama at the White House on Wednesday afternoon, telling reporters,“The President is stubbornly refusing to end the crisis I created.”
“Government is about teamwork,” Mr. Boehner continued.“I’ve done my part by putting together an entirely optional crisis that has shut down the government and will throw thousands out of work. Now it’s up to the President to do his part by ending it.”
Mr. Boehner said that he was “flabbergasted” that the President was looking to him to bring the current government shutdown to an end:“So after doing all of the hard work to push the country to the brink, I’m supposed to pull it back, too? How about you pitching in a little, Mr. President?”
The House Speaker said that he hoped he did not have to manufacture another entirely avoidable crisis over the debt ceiling in order to stir the President to action.“Quite frankly, orchestrating these unnecessary stalemates takes a lot of energy and I could really use a rest,” he said.
But Mr. Boehner seemed pessimistic that the President “got the message.”
“Because of my actions, thousands of federal workers have already been furloughed,” he said.“How many more people do I have to throw out on the street before the President wakes up?”
Cool, Bobbing Bobbies' Boyfriend is Back.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179343 Oct 7, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> You re not a brother, they don't apply to reprobates and apostates like you who vehemently attack the faith after having tatsted of it
Are you talking about that preacher he'll never forgive for leaving without a good bye or even a note.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179344 Oct 7, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Floating matter had been floating forever and just hanging out. Just chilling out there in the vacuum of space forever.
Nope.

Since you start with a complete bullshyt lie?

The rest of your garbage isn't worth reading...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179345 Oct 7, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. "T" ???
I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of these Genuine Christians™ who keep telling atheists they are "fools".

According to their own book?

They are so going to hell.

But hypocrisy is what all Genuine Christians™ do best, so it's hardly surprising they are unaware of their own bible.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179346 Oct 7, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> How many times must I tell you, you have no authority, you are hell fodder. Youre not bretheren.
Nope. Read it again: It clearly states calling ANYONE--ANYONE AT ALL-- a fool means you are so going to HELL.

It does not limit this to just you godbots-- it's ANYONE.

Matthew 5:22

King James Version (KJV)
... but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

New International Version
... And anyone who says,'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

New Living Translation
... And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.

English Standard Version
... and whoever says,‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

New American Standard Bible
... and whoever says,'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179347 Oct 7, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell does not exist and thank you for showing everyone what a hatefull religion christianity is
Indeed.

He is the very example of a hatecultist.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179348 Oct 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
It is just another example of how you take no one's word for anything. When you say "You are lying" it just does not carry much weight.
But you **are** lying-- it's pretty much 100% of your output, too.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179349 Oct 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a Bible thumper. Dude just become more diverse, in the end you are more Fundie than 99% of America.
I do not believe the evil bible.

But he pretends that he does-- so I throw his own evil book right in his face.

Proving to all the world, what a complete hypocrite he is.

Hypocrisy is rampant among all True Believers™.

You too.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179350 Oct 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you talking about that preacher he'll never forgive for leaving without a good bye or even a note.
You are one sicko fucktard.

You know that, right?

You immediately jump to assuming that everyone was f*cked by a priest just as YOU were.

I'm so sorry you were so abused as a kid. It's time to put that behind you, and move on.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#179351 Oct 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. Read it again: It clearly states calling ANYONE--ANYONE AT ALL-- a fool means you are so going to HELL.
It does not limit this to just you godbots-- it's ANYONE.
Matthew 5:22
King James Version (KJV)
... but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
New International Version
... And anyone who says,'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
New Living Translation
... And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.
English Standard Version
... and whoever says,‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
New American Standard Bible
... and whoever says,'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
Magic, you can create fire with two words!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179352 Oct 7, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
The earth just self created?
As did the trillions upon trillions of stars?
All life on the earth just created?
Everything made itself.
Matter just came together and started making stuff?
All on its own?
Such irony, when you stand back and look at what Atheist are claiming, it’s just side-splitting hilarious.
Maybe, just maybe, if you spent more time studying science, specifically cosmology, you wouldn't rant so childishly about the origin's of the universe. There are so many great books about cosmology, and I KNOW you don't want to exercise that most horrible of all human traits being willfully ignorant. So let me suggest an excellent book that will bring you up to speed on the universe. Stephen Hawking's book entitled A Brief History of Time, The Universe In a Nutshell. Very easy reading, even though dealing with some very complex concepts.

After reading this book and any others that will boost your intelligence level, you will no longer rant so childishly about the majesty of the universe.

The main problem with the mindset that you have is this. You have a pre-conceived notion about the origin's of the universe and life on our planet. Once you accept that Goddidit, you immediately cease exploration. You have fallen into the "It's so complex and I can't begin to understand it so Goddidit" trap. Once you accept that all investigation is over. Thats why you don't even make an attempt to understand other possibilities. As soon as you say 'I DON'T KNOW" Then and only then does the journey of discovery begin. Read Hawking's book, stop being a bewildered child when to look up at the night sky. It's never to late to GROW UP>!!!
Little Blue Alien

Plainfield, MA

#179353 Oct 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You are one sicko fucktard.
You know that, right?
You immediately jump to assuming that everyone was f*cked by a priest just as YOU were.
I'm so sorry you were so abused as a kid. It's time to put that behind you, and move on.
I'll bet you've put many things 'behind you' too.

What does a chicken and a gay man have in common?

They both love cockfighting!

COCKA-DOODLE-DOO!!!!
Bongo

Yonkers, NY

#179354 Oct 7, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Hell does not exist and thank you for showing everyone what a hatefull religion christianity is
Youre an idiot, if you think you freaks can give it and not get it back youre mistaken. You are the hatheist.. You are a typical member of a small minority of the irrelegious
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179355 Oct 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I do think you overkill requesting proof, in many cases you should know better. The there is "no" evidence of UFOs was the latest and greatest. Some of your questions, suggest you should be reading not writing. The atheist that use to post online had enough respect for the topic and themselves to post a question like "Could you, Prove souls to me?" They would not belittle themselves with the claim that there is zero proof of that, and they would be aware of experiments showing souls do have a weight, according to those that feel they have proven it. In stead of answering such buffoonery, I strongly advise your expanding your reading.
Why is it so hard for you to realize that either something exists or it doesn't? How does one "overkill requesting proof.?" Do you think there are some things that do NOT require proof? If so what would that be?

I admitted that there are plenty of incidents were UFO's have been observed, I have NO problem with that. But what make you leap from observations of something that is UNIDENTIFIED to a race of super intelligent aliens?

I never said there was no proof for UFO's I said there is NO proof that they are alien in nature. UNIDENTIFIED means exactly that.

If souls were real then there would be proof for them as there would be for any other claim. Because someone feels they have a soul, because someone reported to someone else that they have a soul and that they are real, does NOT constitute as evidence. Personal experience have never been considered to be evidence. I'm sure there are many books on both subjects, but unless they are backed up by rigid scientific data, and supported by mainstream science, they are just another book of fairytales.

There are no scientific experiments that validate the existence of souls, NONE. If you have scientific documentation and published test results please post them or guide me to a site were I can examine them for myself. Thanks

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#179356 Oct 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not believe the evil bible.
But he pretends that he does-- so I throw his own evil book right in his face.
Proving to all the world, what a complete hypocrite he is.
Hypocrisy is rampant among all True Believers™.
You too.
Considering the company of people I have tht you accuse of lying and being evil, thank you.

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