Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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SATANISGOD wrote:
<quoted text>Scott peterson killed his wife and dumped her body in the San Francisco bay. No one observed him. He is jail for life.

It is called evidence left behind... Smithsonian has evidence left behind by millions of years of evolution.

you prefer to rely on ignorance and bronze age stories, that's ok. The stupid line is one long line.Go to the back.
So are they making inductive or deductive arguments for evolution if it happened where it cannot be seen, in the past?

Empirical evidence is deductive not inductive.

Therefore, saying it is empirical is equivocation in the extreme...

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Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>No?
If you have a basis for morality as an atheist, please share.

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Sep 23, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>You sure about that?
Yes.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I had Romans mostly memorized at one point.

But.

The **FACT** is?

God has always and ever been-- entirely missing.

Always.

For you, too-- you just lie to yourself, to claim otherwise.
I found Him and I know Him.

As have many others.

So your claim only bares weight with those that want to also deny Him.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>You think that DEAD INFANTS is ... FUNNY?

You are one sick puppy.
What are you talking about?
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mtimber wrote:
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My position is founded in scripture. Which plainly states men know, but suppress the truth and that the god of this world also blinds their minds.
Obviously that offends you, but that is what scripture says.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I expect gods to -- as a BARE MINIMUM -- be AT LEAST as moral as mortal humans are.

Is this the case?

Nope.

Human parents would do **anything** to preserve the lives of their children.

Is this the case with your god?

Nope-- he allows people--- babies-- to die every day.

HE DOES NOTHING.

As if he wasn't even there at all...!

But if your god IS THERE?

HE IS LESS MORAL THAN MERE HUMAN PARENTS.
So if your child was a serial killer, you would seek to save its life no matter how many people it killed?

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Flat lie: I would cheerfully accept PROOF that a god or gods are real.

Seriously.

BUT YOU DO NOT EVEN TRY AT ALL.

I would **love** for there to be a benevolent deity watching over humanity.

But there is NO FACTS that support that idea.

None at all.
There is plenty of evidence.

It is your reasoning that precludes the evidence because it has a pre commitment to do so.

Is your reasoning infallible?

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Your question is meaningless in this context.

Do you have proof your god is real or not?

If not?

The **default** is that your god is NOT real.
Why is that the default?

See, your reasoning is faulty...

It has taken a position it cannot justify logically...

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Lie:

If the restored limb could **only** have been due to a GOD, intervening?

That is: someone loses an arm, then someone prays, then the arm grows back?

THAT WOULD PROVE THE PRAYER WORKED, and would suggest the god was real.

CAN YOU DO IT?

CAN YOUR GOD RE-GROW AN ARM?

No?

Interesting.
My God can give you a new heart tomorrow.

One that can know Him.

If you we're willing.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I measure your god against what a mere HUMAN can do.

Your god?

DOES NOT MEASURE UP TO EVEN MORTAL HUMAN STANDARDS OF BEHAVIOR.

Seriously: your god is a monster, by which all others pale in comparison.

IF.

If your god is actually real.
What moral standard are you using to judge Him?

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>No.

Because a self-professed GOD REPRESENTATIVE, lied.

And the god in question did not STOP the lie.

That **IS** proof of no god.
So because there is free will, God cannot exist?

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I've never read your atheist book. Who wrote it? It sounds interesting.

But I **have** read the bible, cover-to-cover, 100's of times.

How on **earth** do you think I lost all my faith in gods?

By reading the **bible** of course.

:)
So explain how the bible explicitly predicts the exact point in time if Christ's death.

If your claim is true, you will be able to do that with ease.

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-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>Your coversation is a symptom of the mental illness of creationism.

Atheism is not a religion or an organisation, its merely the conclusion after all the religious liars in the world have been exposed by hard science.

This is why atheists don't own whole hospitals.

Atheism is not a reason to care about other people. Atheists do care about other people, but their atheism is not the reason why they do it.

If you like, atheists have higher morals - they don't need childish religious stories to make them behave. They do it anyway.

Atheists find the world scary when the only thing between murder and a christian is an imaginary god and a dying cult that builds buildings every 30 minutes from each other with gigantic crosses on top of them (and lightening conductors).
Have you been following the news, apparently it is a religion now...

Official tax breaks and all.

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Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>By that logic, you would also have to work hard to not believe in the Easter Bunny.

All atheism is is the lack of a belief in deities. Its not something one really has to work at...
Atheism is a position that claims a truth.

This pretended neutrality fools no one.

You are pre committed to deny God with no rational reason for doing so.

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Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>Not many Atheists are nihilists.
Only the ones who really understand the implications of their worldview...

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Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>You freaking Europeans can’t behave in a civil manor. That’s why your cops bash your head in for not listening to them. You know like you not listening now.

When they tell you,“get off the damn street,” do it or he is going to bash your freaking skull in. That’s why you Brits always have an indentation in your skulls.

I wonder how many baseball bats are broken in European soccer games?
I don't have an indentation...

;-)

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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mtimber wrote:
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Have you been following the news, apparently it is a religion now...
Official tax breaks and all.
Did you get named after hearing chop,chop, chop sounds?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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Just Think wrote:
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I wasn't aware that the US was still a British colony...thanks for the update.
Birdbrain thinks he's collecting Missionary Points for multiple posts.

E-Points only count towards E-Heaven.

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blacklagoon wrote:
>Why was slavery wrong for the ancients? For the same reason it's wrong now, and will be wrong 2,000 years from now.
In a world without God you have no objective basis to judge ancient cultures in far away places. You are simply making a claim which carries no more weight than you opinion. I do not think you understand the consequences of your atheistic assumptions.
owning another human being under ANY circumstance is wrong, period.
Why?
If you can rationalize slavery as NOT being wrong at any time, then you are as immoral as your God who promotes slavery.
If God promotes slavery then why did God liberate the Israelites from Egyptian slavery? Under what objective basis do you judge God as immoral? Do you even know what i am asking you? Do you judge the tooth fairy as immoral? Do you blame the tooth fairy for cavities?
It would appear that I know more about your holy book than you and most Christians do.
You do toot your own horn. I think you are simply attempting to provoke. Do you think attacking validates your atheism?

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