Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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“Robert Stevens”

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I_see_you wrote:
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Again...the word faith is not a religious word... There are two definitions... One which is secular and one is a religious.
faith
fāTH/
noun
1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
"this restores one's faith in politicians"
synonyms: trust, belief, confidence, conviction; More
antonyms: mistrust
2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
synonyms: religion, church, sect, denomination,(religious) persuasion,(religious) belief, ideology, creed, teaching, doctrine More
a system of religious belief.
plural noun: faiths
"the Christian faith"
a strongly held belief or theory.
"the faith that life will expand until it fills the universe"
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Middle English: from Old French feid , from Latin fides .
Atheism is not a religion. It does not coincide with the definition at all. This is not opinion this is fact. You arguing the subject makes it no less fact.
re·li·gion
riˈlijən/
noun
1.
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
"ideas about the relationship between science and religion"
synonyms: faith, belief, worship, creed; More
a particular system of faith and worship.
plural noun: religions
"the world's great religions"
a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
"consumerism is the new religion"
If you trust something then you have faith in it. However, remember the secular definition of faith. Richard Dawkins is a respected atheist and you are taking his words and twisting them just like you would anyone else's and that's expected, but do not expect me to give you any merit at all.
Very nice but again you can't prove yourself.

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blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure you do believe you have this "soul" thing. Can you define exactly what a "soul" is? If you are so sure you have one then it should be no problem for you to define what it is. Is it simply a feeling that you have? How do you know that you have one and other do not? What methodology do you use to determine if someone has a "soul" or not?
It is not that complicated, you do know yourself, I'll cover this more on my next answer to "I_see_you"

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Just Think wrote:
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Your proof of god's existence is the soul - which also can't be proven to exist?
And, again, inherited DNA is proof of evolution rather than god.
You're really not making very much sense.
I disagree I think DNA is further proof of God and soul.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>Very nice but again you can't prove yourself.
I don't have anything to prove.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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I disagree I think DNA is further proof of God and soul.
Prove it !
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Greg Sutton was closely inspecting the back legs of a planthopper nymph a small green, flightless insect when he noticed something odd.
There was a tiny row of bumps on the inside of each leg where it met the insect's body. The bumps looked just like the teeth of gears. And when the planthopper jumped, they acted like gears too as teeth meshed, the legs turned in synchrony. Sutton says his finding, published this week in Science, is the first mechanical gear system ever observed in nature.

"So we were asking ourselves,'How in the world did they get such precise synchrony between the left and the right legs?' " Sutton says.
That led to a closer inspection of the nymph's anatomy and the discovery of the gears.
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/13/219739500/livin...

Eagle 12

The discovery of synchronized mechanical gears on the planthopper insect found in the UK is problematic for Atheist. Solid evidence of intelligent design.

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I_see_you wrote:
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I don't have anything to prove.
That is true, because you do know yourself. Tonight I may go into detail. I have a higher priority to do my exercising right now. I find it sad you would wish to persuade me from my belief in having a soul to your belief in not having a soul. Perhaps you don't.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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I disagree I think DNA is further proof of God and soul.
By that "logic" identical twins would have identical souls...

Again, you're not really making sense.
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R souls to you.
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That is true, because you do know yourself. Tonight I may go into detail. I have a higher priority to do my exercising right now. I find it sad you would wish to persuade me from my belief in having a soul to your belief in not having a soul. Perhaps you don't.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>That is true, because you do know yourself. Tonight I may go into detail. I have a higher priority to do my exercising right now. I find it sad you would wish to persuade me from my belief in having a soul to your belief in not having a soul. Perhaps you don't.
I don't care if you think you have a soul or not. Believe whatever you want to. Your belief doesn't change facts or definitions or any of the things that religions teach that is false or that could and has been harmful to societies.

Your style of writing makes it difficult for me to understand what you're saying. If trying to explain to me, in detail, what you are trying to say will make you feel better then that's fine, but I'm pretty sure that I've established that it is your goal to do exactly what you accuse others of doing, and I feel no need to argue ;-)

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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I think The Online Atheist is a cult of mental illness.
* Poor Comprehension skills
* Lack of trust
* Over rating the issues of Atheism
* a very strong belief in the last word being correct because it is the final statement.
* repeating questions, even if they were answered.
* finding competition in beliefs
* Believing everyone that disagree with you is really a Christian
* admit being wrong
Nothing in the above list of insults is an actual... argument.

How very Jesus of you.

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Robert Stevens wrote:
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I disagree I think DNA is further proof of God and soul.
So? You also believe in crystal gazing, homeopathy and ...

....(this is so funny I'm laughing as I write)...

... past life regressions!

<laughing>

Nobody takes what you **think** seriously any more.

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Just Think wrote:
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By that "logic" identical twins would have identical souls...
Again, you're not really making sense.
Quantum entanglement..lol
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Eagle 12 wrote:
Greg Sutton was closely inspecting the back legs of a planthopper nymph a small green, flightless insect when he noticed something odd.
There was a tiny row of bumps on the inside of each leg where it met the insect's body. The bumps looked just like the teeth of gears. And when the planthopper jumped, they acted like gears too as teeth meshed, the legs turned in synchrony. Sutton says his finding, published this week in Science, is the first mechanical gear system ever observed in nature.
"So we were asking ourselves,'How in the world did they get such precise synchrony between the left and the right legs?' " Sutton says.
That led to a closer inspection of the nymph's anatomy and the discovery of the gears.
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/13/219739500/livin...
Eagle 12
The discovery of synchronized mechanical gears on the planthopper insect found in the UK is problematic for Atheist. Solid evidence of intelligent design.
non sequitor FALLACY,,

If theres Inteligent designer why did it create stupid religitards?LLL

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Not a horror story, sweetness, it is
Seek professional help immediately. Dial 911 NOW;0)

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Just Think wrote:
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By that "logic" identical twins would have identical souls...
Again, you're not really making sense.
You see this soul topic is not your cup of tea, but according to studies on the topic, such is possible. Could we please keep it real, you're not big on the topic of Destiny and/or journey of souls. You're just trying to get me to change my views, and that won't happen. AND! I don't wish to change yours.

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I_see_you wrote:
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I don't care if you think you have a soul or not. Believe whatever you want to. Your belief doesn't change facts or definitions or any of the things that religions teach that is false or that could and has been harmful to societies.
Your style of writing makes it difficult for me to understand what you're saying. If trying to explain to me, in detail, what you are trying to say will make you feel better then that's fine, but I'm pretty sure that I've established that it is your goal to do exactly what you accuse others of doing, and I feel no need to argue ;-)
Excellent I agree you have your situation and I have mine. Saves me a long post I planning on posting.
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Robert Stevens wrote:
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It is not that complicated, you do know yourself, I'll cover this more on my next answer to "I_see_you"
Apparently it is VERY complicated otherwise you wouldn't be dancing around instead of substantiating your claim. I asked a very simple straight forward question, about this soul thing, how you define it, simple. Everything I believe in I can define very easily, why are you having so much trouble with this extremely simple question?

Let me try again, maybe this time you'll have the courage to answer. How do you define this soul thing? How do you know that you have one and someone else does not? Now, and this is VERY important, what methodology do you use to determine if you or anyone else actually has a soul?

You are adamant that this soul thing exists, you seem to have infinite knowledge about it, yet you are unable, unwilling, or maybe just to embarrassed to share this knowledge, why is that? Is it perhaps that like your God thing, it too is something only imagined?

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Mikko wrote:
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Prove it !
The difference of opinion is personal perception. Can't you see that you abuse those two words. I felt I was clear about it being a difference of opinion, not that the person I disagreed with was wrong. In such a case you "Prove it!" would be a fair statement.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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Quantum entanglement..lol
LMAO!

How can you tell if someone is gullible?

Answer: give them "scientifical" -sounding words and they will easily believe bullshit, so long as there are "scientifical" words attached.

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