Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176876 Sep 8, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I don't seek heaven.
Heaven is for wimps.
Good for you. Whatever trips your trigger.

No sweat off anyone else's ass what you wind up doing when you die.

Except for those wanting what you leave. That includes governments.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#176877 Sep 8, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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But my view is usually right, yours are based on what you think is right.
Your playing moralist and knowing you are righteous and right will not get you into heaven, Catcher.
It takes the key, right?

Do you have the key, Dave?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#176878 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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" As of 2012, about 67.5%[1] of Swedish citizens are members of the Church of Sweden, compared to over 95% in 1970, and 83% in 2000."
"According to the Eurobarometer Poll 2010,[3]
18% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a god".
45% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
34% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, god, or life force".
According to the Eurobarometer Poll 2012,[3] the religions in Sweden are the following
Protestants 41%
Orthodox 1%
Catholics 2%
Other Christian 9%
Buddhist 1%
Other 3%
Atheist 13%
Agnostics 30%"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Swed...
Then you have the sizeable Muslim immigrant population.
You should feel stupid, but I fear you lack the ability.
BTW, did you notice atheism was classified as a religion? Hah Hah.
Forced membership in the former state church doesn't make you a christian
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176879 Sep 9, 2013
Lelouch0 wrote:
I know, my friend. That is how some of them are-they do not wish to open their eyes to the truth.
Thanks for the drive by!!!!!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176880 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You just running scared, Bubba.
I changed by looking how the world is put together according to science.
You can't even begin to comprehend my perception of the higher power. I have trouble myself. It certainly isn't the skydaddy you can't escape the perception of. I'm just another tool. Maybe I will get used again, maybe not. Just enjoying the ride the best I can, and listening to GOOD music that comes from the soul of that greater being through other tools. I get laid once in a while,too. As Solomon said, a man can only be happy with the fruits of his labors, all else is folly. Calloused hands are as good as blubber lips blowing a horn.
The last time I was really scared was a trip down the coast from Gloucester, bad squall knocked to boat down, 8 foot seas, very scary indeed.

You say "How the world is *put together." Right there it proves you have a preconception. This is the mistake ALL Theists make, they start with a preconceived notion and build their case around it. Not a very open minded or intelligent approach. What make you think the world was "Put together?" I know very well how planets and suns are formed and none of that factual information requires a "putting together"

You're right there with all the other Christian moonbats, you make assertions without evidence. Your "higher power" is no different from God, neither have verifiable evidence. You also make a second assertion without support, "music that comes from the soul" Music comes from intellect, and the assertion that there is something called a soul is again without evidence. So lets examine you claims and see how many have proof.

1.) The world was "Put together"......By whom or what?........No evidence.

2.) You have a perception of a "Higher Power".....No evidence of such.

3.) Music comes for the "soul".....No knowledge of where music actually comes from and no evidence for "Soul"

4.) Oh, and once again you mentioned a "Greater being" no different form someone mentioning God..........No evidence for this "greater being."

Boy, you struck out 4 times here.

BTW the lips of trumpet players do get very calloused, probably more than your lilly white hands, take a look at Louie Armtstrong's chops someday. Yet another example of you talking in ignorance.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#176881 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You just running scared, Bubba.
I changed by looking how the world is put together according to science.
You can't even begin to comprehend my perception of the higher power. I have trouble myself. It certainly isn't the skydaddy you can't escape the perception of. I'm just another tool. Maybe I will get used again, maybe not. Just enjoying the ride the best I can, and listening to GOOD music that comes from the soul of that greater being through other tools. I get laid once in a while,too. As Solomon said, a man can only be happy with the fruits of his labors, all else is folly. Calloused hands are as good as blubber lips blowing a horn.
Creationist waste of space struggling to make any logical arguments for his mental illness being real

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176882 Sep 9, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>The last time I was really scared was a trip down the coast from Gloucester, bad squall knocked to boat down, 8 foot seas, very scary indeed.
You say "How the world is *put together." Right there it proves you have a preconception. This is the mistake ALL Theists make, they start with a preconceived notion and build their case around it. Not a very open minded or intelligent approach. What make you think the world was "Put together?" I know very well how planets and suns are formed and none of that factual information requires a "putting together"
You're right there with all the other Christian moonbats, you make assertions without evidence. Your "higher power" is no different from God, neither have verifiable evidence. You also make a second assertion without support, "music that comes from the soul" Music comes from intellect, and the assertion that there is something called a soul is again without evidence. So lets examine you claims and see how many have proof.
1.) The world was "Put together"......By whom or what?........No evidence.
2.) You have a perception of a "Higher Power".....No evidence of such.
3.) Music comes for the "soul".....No knowledge of where music actually comes from and no evidence for "Soul"
4.) Oh, and once again you mentioned a "Greater being" no different form someone mentioning God..........No evidence for this "greater being."
Boy, you struck out 4 times here.
BTW the lips of trumpet players do get very calloused, probably more than your lilly white hands, take a look at Louie Armtstrong's chops someday. Yet another example of you talking in ignorance.
Everything "just is", and has always been here, no cause needed.

Very scientific and objective approach you have there.

You are a credit to your religion.

I think you blew your brains out blowing your horn so loud and so much.

Armstrong held a handkerchief to wipe the drool off his chops. You would do well to emulate him.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#176883 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Everything "just is", and has always been here, no cause needed.
Very scientific and objective approach you have there.
You are a credit to your religion.
I think you blew your brains out blowing your horn so loud and so much.
Armstrong held a handkerchief to wipe the drool off his chops. You would do well to emulate him.
atheism isn't a religion, once again you insult your own cult by referring to atheism as a religion.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#176884 Sep 9, 2013
creationists fail at logic and truth telling
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176885 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Everything "just is", and has always been here, no cause needed.
Very scientific and objective approach you have there.
You are a credit to your religion.
I think you blew your brains out blowing your horn so loud and so much.
Armstrong held a handkerchief to wipe the drool off his chops. You would do well to emulate him.
One of the smartest humans on the face of the planet thinks the universe has no boundaries, no edges, and simply just is. Stephen Hawking, believed the universe to be infinite,as do many other cosmologists. Dr. Neil Turok and his multi-universe with the big band being a local event. Of course you could boil it down to two choices, the universe has always existed, or it was created by a mystical being. Then great "causation argument, everything needs a cause, of course that would include the creator. At this point the "special pleading" bubbles to the surface.

It is in fact a very scientific and mathematical approach, at least these cosmologists have naturalistic concepts they work with, unlike GOGDIDIT, which entails.........yeah you guessed it....FAITH. Any intelligent person given the choice of the universe always existing or coming from some naturalistic occurrence, or a being from the supernatural realm, a non-existing realm, creating it, would choose the naturalistic approach, that is unless they had been so brainwashed that anything other than their mythical God thing is unacceptable. I guess that would be you.

Louie used the handkerchief to cover his valve casing so the lacquer would wear off fro the acid and salt on his hands. Yes he occasionally wiped the sweat from his brow, but the real reason was to protect the lacquer. Once again commenting from IGNORANCE!!!! Why aren't you completely embarrassed by your ignorance?
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176886 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Everything "just is", and has always been here, no cause needed.
Very scientific and objective approach you have there.
You are a credit to your religion.
I think you blew your brains out blowing your horn so loud and so much.
Armstrong held a handkerchief to wipe the drool off his chops. You would do well to emulate him.
"You are a credit to your religion." You may continue to call Atheism a religion if it makes you feel good, and apparently it does. I think you do it just to be annoying. Anyone with half a brain in their heads knows that Atheism is as far as you can get from religion. But you seem to take childish pleasure in referring to it as a religion, so be my guest, continue to look incredible stupid and childish, have at it!!!!

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#176887 Sep 9, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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atheist religion seems mumbo jumbo to most Americans.
That because most christard Americans are confused about what atheism actually is.

They seem to have the strange notion that because they personally have faith in a bronze age magical deity then they cannot comprehend that anyone else could possibly believe something different.

I often ponder why this should be and all I can conclude is that deliberate ignorance prevents many christards from understand anything not goddidit.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176888 Sep 9, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text> "You are a credit to your religion." You may continue to call Atheism a religion if it makes you feel good, and apparently it does. I think you do it just to be annoying. Anyone with half a brain in their heads knows that Atheism is as far as you can get from religion. But you seem to take childish pleasure in referring to it as a religion, so be my guest, continue to look incredible stupid and childish, have at it!!!!
It's a cult more than a religion as practiced by you and most Topix atheists.

You are confused about definitions and identities.

Non-belief is passive. Proselytizing a non-belief, and arguing for it to the point of deriding the beliefs of others is not non-belief.

You are effed up in the head.
Thinking

UK

#176889 Sep 9, 2013
If Atheism is a religion then not collecting stamps is a hobby.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Everything "just is", and has always been here, no cause needed.
Very scientific and objective approach you have there.
You are a credit to your religion.
I think you blew your brains out blowing your horn so loud and so much.
Armstrong held a handkerchief to wipe the drool off his chops. You would do well to emulate him.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176890 Sep 9, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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That because most christard Americans are confused about what atheism actually is.
They seem to have the strange notion that because they personally have faith in a bronze age magical deity then they cannot comprehend that anyone else could possibly believe something different.
I often ponder why this should be and all I can conclude is that deliberate ignorance prevents many christards from understand anything not goddidit.
It appears you had a good rest and are all charged up to get back on here to do battle with the forces of deliberate ignorance that refuse to see things your way.

How about a cuddle, cutie?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#176891 Sep 9, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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atheist religion seems mumbo jumbo to most Americans.
I think they believe that having a place to go and "fellowship", as some churches call it, will fill the empty spot that being with relatives on Sunday morning did. IOWs, hanging with like-minded people and all "that" entails. I suppose it beats lounging around crack/meth houses the "morning after".

I, personally, don't see why anyone needs the crutch of leaning on other people for "emotional" support of whatever ideology they follow. Anyone who needs a constant pat on the back should reevaluate the strength of their convictions.
Thinking

UK

#176892 Sep 9, 2013
If actively opposing rape rather than tolerating rape is also proselytizing then so be it.
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's a cult more than a religion as practiced by you and most Topix atheists.
You are confused about definitions and identities.
Non-belief is passive. Proselytizing a non-belief, and arguing for it to the point of deriding the beliefs of others is not non-belief.
You are effed up in the head.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#176893 Sep 9, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Feel free to gloat, you have every right to do so. As an atheist, I find this acutely embarrassing. WTF are they thinking? Idiots...
lol

I'll give you a minute to smooth your feathers.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#176894 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You just running scared, Bubba.
I changed by looking how the world is put together according to science.
You can't even begin to comprehend my perception of the higher power. I have trouble myself. It certainly isn't the skydaddy you can't escape the perception of. I'm just another tool. Maybe I will get used again, maybe not. Just enjoying the ride the best I can, and listening to GOOD music that comes from the soul of that greater being through other tools. I get laid once in a while,too. As Solomon said, a man can only be happy with the fruits of his labors, all else is folly. Calloused hands are as good as blubber lips blowing a horn.
So, no supernatural event influenced you? Ok.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176895 Sep 9, 2013
Thinking wrote:
If actively opposing rape rather than tolerating rape is also proselytizing then so be it.
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That was supposed to be a rational association?

In your mind it likely is.

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