Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Jun 12

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#176653 Sep 7, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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You don't deserve to live.
I do live.
You are a hate filled POS. I am realizing that most "Topix Christians" are.
What a matter Ben? Can't handle the truth?
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f50/alert-gay-ma...

You also have this out of Michigan.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2011/12/30/98...

Christians the enemy of the Homosexuals? Please. They are their own enemies. They live a lie like atheists and like atheists they infect each other. Apologists for atheism is like spreading AIDS since they promote lies to others with destructive results. Everyone is accountable to God. That is the truth.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#176654 Sep 7, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>No it is not just 'simple human nature'. It is something within that makes one behave like that and that something is the inner self believing in a Great Creator.
Arrogant.....moi!!!!!
Assumptions make the world go round and quite a few members have you figured out to a 'T'.
Oh, okay, now I know who you are.

Virtual*Ignore*Macro* enable.

Since: Jun 12

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#176655 Sep 7, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
I am sick of "Christians" preaching hatred, violence and bigotry in the name of their God.
You are just attacking and accusing because you have no arguments, Ben.
The sooner their religion is stomped out, the better off mankind will be.
The gates of hell will not prevail against the church of Christ. Stop blaming Christians for perverted and selfish sexual behavior which spread disease to others including females who do not require their bisexual partners to wear condoms. Females should run run run from bisexual males. Consider them infected, disease carriers until proven otherwise.
The same can be said of Islam as well.
They are not passive like Christians. Good way to get your head handed to you.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176662 Sep 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I see you **still** haven't explained why your ugly church abuses children, then pays the parents of the victims to keep it hidden.
Why?
Catholic Priest that molest children are the minority. The majority are very good and helpful people to their society. I am not against punishing those that do break this law, and the cover up is bad. If I was Catholic I would joint the new forming group, the denounces this child abuse.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176663 Sep 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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No-- you cannot prove it at all--it's 100% bullshit and you **know** it is.
This is why you spew such vitrol onto me-- you cannot STAND the fact I call you on your bullshit.
Mr you can't prove anything what is the name of this tread. "Atheism requires as much faith as religion." An honestly, I can't prove to you via hypnosis because you do not have a soul. You could read Dr Michael Newton for yourself. Destiny of Souls. It would be irresponsible for a hypnotherapist to have a past life regression with an atheist, or Atheist.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176664 Sep 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I know more than sufficient to brand **you** for what you are, though.
You are just full of yourself, and full of hate, too.
Proof?
9 of 10 posts you write to ME are full of your hateful words.
I would rather be full of myself than atheist. It is a sad ending you will have. Mine will be a new beginning. I don't understand why you ever discuss yours. It belongs in a locked closet.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176665 Sep 7, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Neither do you.
Actually I have proven that I do, and I don't care if drones like yourself deny it.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176666 Sep 7, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I can't stand WBC... they most definitely do more harm than good with anything that they preach. I guess I am different in the fact that I have many friends so I don't miss out on socializing with anyone... I also don't feel a great need to argue my personal feelings because in the scheme of things arguing does no good for any party. I don't see anything wrong with not believing in a god (obviously because I don't and I turned out pretty good *smiles) I also don't see anything wrong with someone believing in a god... I agree with you, that many things have changed over the years and I think it's wonderful. My boyfriend is constantly telling me that my thought processes sometimes are merely a dream for a perfect world.
I may have some disputes with departments in the government. I hate the corruption amongst politicians. I really think court systems should stand under review, mainly Florida. However, this country did get religion right. I do honestly think Atheist should reflect on that and consider it before they enter some of the complaints they do.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#176667 Sep 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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No it is true. Atheism has no upside.
Self-respect, honesty, integrity. That's a start.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#176668 Sep 7, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I understand your feelings...I meant no insult toward you. I'm sorry...I just don't like to see people saying things like that to one another...no matter what side it's coming from. I apologize again for getting involved in that interaction.
No apology needed. You said what yo meant.

In Nazi Germany millions walked peacefully into the death camps. Fortunately millions more stopped the atrocities with justifiable violence.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#176669 Sep 7, 2013
-BobLoblah- wrote:
<quoted text>07Sep13.....These 4 were all very young men when they became followers Jesus Christ until his death 3 years later from when they started.
Philo Judaeus and others that thought like him were fearful of the Jewis hiarchy, nd along with most other Jews, did not want to accept Jesus Christ as their Messiah and 'blocked' Him out of their thinking. None-the-less, Jesus' teachings survived and the New Testament began to come into existance.
But atheists like you always try to stamp things out when it comes to religion. Any religion...especially Christianity.
You will doomed to roast in hell, you schidt-for-brains.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Your religion needs to be taken away like one would take away an AK-47 from a terrorist.

Since: Sep 08

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#176670 Sep 7, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Self-respect, honesty, integrity. That's a start.
Pure horseshit.

Topix atheists are nothing but reactions to the mainstream, just like anarchists. They create their own brand of righteousness. Like anarchists they will flock together and try to destroy the mainstream. If they succeed they then destroy each other.

It takes middle ground to be a freethinker and the above you claimed.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176671 Sep 7, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Self-respect, honesty, integrity. That's a start.
I really don't see that in their online post. I see very antisocial tendencies. I would be amazed if you could have quality social gatherings. Overall it would be unfair to judge atheist just by their online sort. There is a chance you are a noisy minority amongst a minority, instead of just being a noisy minority.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176672 Sep 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Pure horseshit.
Topix atheists are nothing but reactions to the mainstream, just like anarchists. They create their own brand of righteousness. Like anarchists they will flock together and try to destroy the mainstream. If they succeed they then destroy each other.
It takes middle ground to be a freethinker and the above you claimed.
The more I think about it, the more certain I am that they are 400+ pound guy that never leaves his room. Everything is to blame besides them taking a walk, and slowing down on the eating. I don't get how you post what you do and expect them to do anything but deny the facts. I came to this tread because I saw it as the time they explain. The truth is no one could prove according to the standards they suggest, and that does include them, themselves. Being a person of personal beliefs, I don't see how you could hand the prove you could hold as they seek. In my opinion the face it is written of cave walls, "The story of Adam and Eve.".... Momma Mia, how do you fold your arms and say "That's nothing" The proof is every where to post a blog online to such a sort, is a pure waste of time.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176673 Sep 7, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Your religion needs to be taken away like one would take away an AK-47 from a terrorist.
I would take a Muslim society over an Atheist society.

Since: Sep 08

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#176674 Sep 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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The more I think about it, the more certain I am that they are 400+ pound guy that never leaves his room. Everything is to blame besides them taking a walk, and slowing down on the eating. I don't get how you post what you do and expect them to do anything but deny the facts. I came to this tread because I saw it as the time they explain. The truth is no one could prove according to the standards they suggest, and that does include them, themselves. Being a person of personal beliefs, I don't see how you could hand the prove you could hold as they seek. In my opinion the face it is written of cave walls, "The story of Adam and Eve.".... Momma Mia, how do you fold your arms and say "That's nothing" The proof is every where to post a blog online to such a sort, is a pure waste of time.
They are foils to make you think for yourself. Tools for self improvement.

No, they don't present anything coherent or rational. What they present is nothing more than what many believers have considered in their youth and moved on from. But reading those simple thoughts and witnessing the immaturity of that thought helps revisit your own thinking process and make corrections.

They aren't worth pissing on, but they do serve some purpose. The Creator made junk and fertilizer for a purpose.

Onward through the fog.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176675 Sep 7, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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They are foils to make you think for yourself. Tools for self improvement.
No, they don't present anything coherent or rational. What they present is nothing more than what many believers have considered in their youth and moved on from. But reading those simple thoughts and witnessing the immaturity of that thought helps revisit your own thinking process and make corrections.
They aren't worth pissing on, but they do serve some purpose. The Creator made junk and fertilizer for a purpose.
Onward through the fog.
To spread atheism, would never make sense to me. I don't see how they can't see it is not positive.
xianity is EVIL

Windsor, Canada

#176676 Sep 7, 2013
Toby wrote:
The Bible belt also leads in divorces and illiteracy. South Carolina is the only Bible belt state with a lower rate of divorces than the national average, all the other Bible belt states have a higher divorce rate than the national average. Also bible belt state lead in teen pregnancies, must be those damn bible belt atheist huh?
thats how evil ChristINSANITY works

Several weeks ago, a ground-breaking study on religious belief and social well-being was published in the Journal of Religion & Society. Comparing 18 prosperous democracies from the U.S. to New Zealand, author Gregory S Paul quietly demolished the myth that faith strengthens society.

Drawing on a wide range of studies to cross-match faith – measured by belief in God and acceptance of evolution – with homicide and intimate behavior, Paul found that secular societies have lower rates of violence and teenage pregnancy than societies where many people profess belief in God.

Top of the class, in both atheism and good behavior, come the Japanese. Over eighty percent accept evolution and fewer than ten percent are certain that God exists. Despite its size – over a hundred million people – Japan is one of the least crime-prone countries in the world. It also has the lowest rates of teenage pregnancy of any developed nation.

Next in line are the Norwegians, British, Germans and Dutch. At least sixty percent accept evolution as a fact and fewer than one in three are convinced that there is a deity.

At the other end of the scale comes America. Over 50 percent of Americans believe in God, and only 40 percent accept some form of evolution (many believe it had a helping hand from the Deity). The U.S. has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy and homicide rates are at least five times greater than in Europe and ten times higher than in Japan.

All this information points to a strong correlation between faith and antisocial behavior -- a correlation so strong that there is good reason to suppose that religious belief does more harm than good.

At first glance that is a preposterous suggestion, given that religions preach non-violence and intimate restraint. However, close inspection reveals a different story.

All believers learn that God holds them responsible for their actions. So far so good, but for many, belief absolves them of all other responsibilities.
Consciously or subconsciously, those who are "born again" or "chosen" have diminished respect for others who do not share their sect or their faith. Convinced that only the Bible offers "truth", they lose their intellectual curiosity and their ability to reason. Their priority becomes not the world they live in but themselves.

The more people prioritize themselves rather than those around them, the weaker society becomes and the greater the likelihood of antisocial behavior.
Hence gun laws which encourage Americans to see each other not as fellow human beings who deserve protection, but as potential aggressors who deserve to die.

As for sex… Faith encourages ignorance rather than responsible behavior. In other countries, sex education includes contraception, reducing the risk of unwanted pregnancies. Such an approach recognizes that young people have the right to make their own choices and helps them make decisions that benefit society as a whole.
In America faith-driven abstinence programs deny them that right
. The result is soaring rates of unwanted pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.

Despite all its fine words, religion has brought in its wake little more than violence, prejudice and intimate disease.

i think this shatters the thinking that morality is lost when societies become secular.

Since: Sep 08

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#176677 Sep 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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To spread atheism, would never make sense to me. I don't see how they can't see it is not positive.
They can't see beyond themselves. They are clones programmed to repeat.

Psychosis and neurosis with an outlet. Misfiring neurons bouncing off a screen that the mass mind can now see thanks to the its development of the internet. Out of the woodwork and into the light for all to see.

Amusing. This whole Topstories forum seldom goes over 2000 readers and posters, usually just a few hundred. That includes other threads without atheism. They think a few of those few hundred is a majority of thought. They are on the march to world dominion. Their rants will convince the world of the evil of its ways.

The disease is getting identified and isolated on the internet.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#176679 Sep 7, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I would take a Muslim society over an Atheist society.
I know. You love to murder people.

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