Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

There are 239059 comments on the Webbunny tumblelog story from Jul 18, 2009, titled Atheism requires as much faith as religion?. In it, Webbunny tumblelog reports that:

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Webbunny tumblelog.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176069 Sep 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I get it-- anything you don't like, or that goes against your Gawd?
You think is "stupid".
Gotcha.
Even though you cannot muster up a COUNTER-ARGUMENT.
LOL!
You can't admit the idea time is yet to begin is stupid. I really don't see how it favors atheist or theist. We could call it a theory. Like I said some times you post the funniest stuff.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176070 Sep 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Well?
Compared to **you**, they aren't.
Compared to anyone **else** with a proper education?
That's different-- they were pretty ignorant across the board....
Education now is, in large part, indoctrination. That is why you have men getting married to each other wearing dresses along with the young believing they are little more than big brained apes. Some may carry these assumptions to their natural conclusions. They may for example shoot up a school, kill students wearing shirts which say 'Natural Selection' on them. They may shoot an athlete because they are bored. They may form gangs and shoot each other in record numbers. They are not told they are image of God and are accountable to God for their treatment of each other. Nor do they have responsible adult male role models. That is why people are pulling their children out of public education.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176071 Sep 1, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
When you're able to prove your the god of your creationist cult, you will look less stupid than everyone before you.
You cannot disprove that God and are of the minority opinion in all human history so why trust you? It just does not seem to occur to you that if you are wrong you have made just about the biggest and stupidest mistake any human being can make in life which comes with horrible consequences.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176072 Sep 1, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope. I'll donated to a medical facility as a medical cadaver, and then cremated.
At no time are worms involved.
But your bigotry and hate is duly noted.
Your hate is strong... I can almost feel it oozing from you.
Let me get this straight, when you pass your organs will be donated. That is very nice of you. Further instructions of your organs are, that after the person that receives the passes away, if that person wishes to be buried they must first remove your donated organ for cremation. Or maybe that person would have to sign a waiver that he or she will be cremated. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUNNY YOU ARE.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176073 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it is one distinct possibility that is consistent with everything we know about the universe at this point. It is even a prediction of those theories that merge quantum mechanics and general relativity, such as string thoery and loop quantum gravity.
Do you care to give an alternative theory that incorporates both QM and GR? If so, please present it and we can discuss it.
You and I have different realities. I don't have the time to co on about it, and it really is just that simple.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176074 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
If matter and energy have existed for all time, then the universe did not start. It has always been going. Is that so hard for you to understand?
OK it's a theory.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176075 Sep 1, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
And you notice that Kaku's positions are based on actual data. That is the difference between science and religion: science adjusts based on actual evidence and facts, while religion tells us to ignore the facts and maintain faith.
<quoted text>
Nobody has given any way of even defining the concept of a God to the extent it can be tested. Until a specific test can be given, it isn't even a question about reality: it is only a matter of opinion and imagination.
I agree. My statement is nothing could be proven. I strongly favor there being a creator/protector. Protector does not mean Superman saving Lois Lane. The refection is more in terms of us not getting invaded by superior beings. Perhaps God will show us his hand when we try to rape another planet.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#176076 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You cannot disprove that God and are of the minority opinion in all human history so why trust you? It just does not seem to occur to you that if you are wrong you have made just about the biggest and stupidest mistake any human being can make in life which comes with horrible consequences.
We're not afraid of your "horrible consequences".

As aptly stated by Robert Ingersoll:

"The doctrine of eternal punishment is in perfect harmony with the savagery of the men who made the orthodox creeds. It is in harmony with torture, with flaying alive, and with burnings. The men who burned their fellow-men for a moment, believed that God would burn his enemies forever." Crumbling Creeds.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176078 Sep 1, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The ancients also supposed that bleeding the ill would let the evil spirits out that were making them sick. They thought the Earth was the center of the universe, that witches were responsible for all manner of things, that albatrosses were bad luck and all manner of stupid crap.
Well they had the blueprint for healthy living and disease prevention right in the Old Testament. Keep clean eat right, healthy sexual practices. Isolate those diseased. The position of the Earth comes with no real terrible consequences. Sure they had superstitions and many do today. It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda.

The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth. There is just too many independent accounts. Too much evidence the moderns cannot sweep under the rug.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#176079 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Well they had the blueprint for healthy living and disease prevention right in the Old Testament. Keep clean eat right, healthy sexual practices. Isolate those diseased. The position of the Earth comes with no real terrible consequences. Sure they had superstitions and many do today. It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda.
The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth. There is just too many independent accounts. Too much evidence the moderns cannot sweep under the rug.
"It did no stop them from advancing overall. I don't know what your beef is exactly except you need to make them look like fools, to marginalize them like you do everyone else because they saw things vastly different then do you. By "you" i mean collectively. To disagree with the secular collective is to reject science itself but that is just propaganda."

Your mistake is gargantuan in assuming truth is secular.

"The Kings of Europe were able to trace their ancestry back to Noah to Adam and they did keep track so they did not believe it was myth."

Your second mistake is to believe the lies of those who want to enforce rule of thumb , by using your own superstition. They have duped you into this belief of entirely false claims.

The Kings of Europe were able to find and prove anything so long as you believe the lies they told.

You are living in a fantasy world, and little is real in that.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176080 Sep 1, 2013
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/72-blacks-bo...
This issue entered the public consciousness in 1965,[under President Johnson] when a now famous government report by future senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan described a “tangle of pathology” among blacks that fed a 24 percent black “illegitimacy” rate. The white rate then was 4 percent.

I’m not sure what’s shocking: That the rate for blacks has tripled in my lifetime or that whites have now surpassed the level of pathology Moynihan described.
Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176081 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
It boils down to if you believe there was a purpose to our creation. We ARE created, matters not how or by what.
If your life has no purpose, why do you go through the struggles? Why do you worry about the here and now and the future if it is ultimately meaningless? Gets too much and you can put yourself to eternal sleep in a hurry, you wouldn't be missing a thing except pain and anguish, right?
Life's great! Why would I want it to end?

So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#176082 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c om/72-blacks-born-to-unwed-mot hers/
<quoted text>
Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!
The Rapture, right?
Bongo

Coram, NY

#176083 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.c om/72-blacks-born-to-unwed-mot hers/
<quoted text>
Moynihan warned about the breakdown of the family and social pathologies which would follow back in 1965 and that was at 25% in the black community and 6% overall. Now the out of wedlock birth rate is at 40% overall. 70% in the Black community. Think it is bad now? Give it another 25 years and see what you got!
The poster RR noted that satans influence started ramping up in 1962

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#176084 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
Life's great! Why would I want it to end?
So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.
If all you have is sarcasm then perhaps you should try comedy because no one is going to take you seriously. Igor

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176085 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
Life's great! Why would I want it to end?
So just what exactly is your purpose of life?
Is it to live forever?
Is it to avoid hell?
Or is it to tell God he's great!(Doesn't he already know that?)
Please tell us as I haven't heard a rational answer to that question yet.
Life is great for you now. What if that changes?

What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?

The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.

It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.

Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
Bongo

Coram, NY

#176086 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Life is great for you now. What if that changes?
What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?
The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.
It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.
Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
what are examples of quick painless exits?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176087 Sep 1, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Life is great for you now. What if that changes?
What about all of the other people whose lives aren't so great, but their suffering makes your great?
The question wasn't about what you went off on a tangent about. It was why hang around if there is no hope, and it just wasn't worth the struggle.
It's your non-belief. Tell us why you would hang around. A few seconds would eliminate decades of misery, and you wouldn't have missed anything. The same would apply to your progeny. You are an animal, not a holy creature.
Can you tell us, or are you going to avoid the question again?
Maybe your life is miserable but mines great. Why would I want it to end?

Sure this life's not going to last forever but is worrying about death going to change anything? No!
So I'll enjoy it while I can and when death approaches, at least I'll know I enjoyed my time.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#176088 Sep 1, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> If all you have is sarcasm then perhaps you should try comedy because no one is going to take you seriously. Igor
I wasn't joking.
Just what is your purpose in life?
Do you really have one?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176089 Sep 1, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe your life is miserable but mines great. Why would I want it to end?
Sure this life's not going to last forever but is worrying about death going to change anything? No!
So I'll enjoy it while I can and when death approaches, at least I'll know I enjoyed my time.
You dodged again.

Doesn't mean shit if you enjoyed it or not. You might not even get the chance.

You want to live because you have something to lose. Take that away, what reason do you have left?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Prove there's a god. (Mar '08) 2 min lightbeamrider 837,496
Bush is a hero (Sep '07) 3 min Freebird USA 176,846
Poll Was 9/11 a conspiracy?? (Oct '07) 9 min Pegasus 271,293
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 12 min Barry Adams 589,574
I'm so wet right now and want to talk dirty wit... (Jun '13) 13 min Dexter 30
gay bottom in gurgaon (May '14) 22 min BOTTOMGURGAON 88
Tamil vs Kannada. Which one is the oldest langu... (Oct '12) 22 min Naveen kumar 1,434
Poll If you're Christain what kind are you? (Oct '07) 1 hr We Are Almost There 4,183
More from around the web