Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Mercury bubbles blast!”

Since: Mar 11

Mercury

#175292 Aug 23, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I just ain't wasting my time like that. I know I have seen enough TV Shows on Quantum physics to make the statement I have. Because you deny or state something does not make it the truth. You are the classic "I know everything person" and you bare that burden.
Sorry, you can't make a statement "physics supports a creator" and not provide evidence for that claim.

Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#175293 Aug 23, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
To be honest with you, I think the average online atheist is a 400 plus pound person that just lives to post online and eat. How they afford I. Only in America. Just imagine why you and you gang do this people are working themselves to death to fed their families.
Seeing that the evidence shows those who do not believe in a fictitious being are smarter than those who do believe, then it's understandable how we can have more free time and still make 6 figures.

Your post is a good example of the lesser intelligence believers have, as you have made an assertion without a shred of evidence.

I have a suggestion for you, put down that bible and pick up a science book. Try and cleanse your mind of the celestial dictator peering over your shoulder 24/7, and then maybe, just maybe, you to can have the freedom and leisure we Atheists so enjoy. Good Luck with loosing your horrid delusions.
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#175294 Aug 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a nut case. And that is your saving grace.
Jose walks out into a barren plain. With a stream running through it. He mixes water and the dirt and makes mud pies that then dry out and becomes bricks. He stacks the bricks and makes a house. He takes a rest. Now he has a place he can put to use at his discretion. To get out of the sun, to store things, or a place to keep his pets. Sometimes he may be there, sometimes not. He can come and go as he pleases. He created it.
Read Genesis 1 and 2. A garden was made where creations were visited.
Jose leaves his cat in the house. With plenty of food and water. He returns one day to find the place a mess from the kitty going wild. He told the kitty to behave.
You want to be a wild animal? OK, we will let you be a wild animal.
OUTSIDE, KITTY!!!
And Jose closes the door and walks off until he decides he needs or wants to come back to that house.
Kitty learns to eat bugs and keeps an eye on that door.
You make this stupid analogy, and then have the balls to call him a nutcase, REALLY?

Did anyone SEE Jose make this structure? Is there any evidence that Jose and not someone else or a group of people were responsible for the structure? Is there any evidence as to WHEN this structure was built? Jose was stupid for leaving the cat in an enclosed structure. Jose should have realized the nature of a cat, and that leaving them confined for a long period of time was asking for trouble. Jose was therefore ignorant. His idiocy was further compounded when he spoke to the cat and expected it to understand. Beside being incredibly stupid, Jose is also cruel and uncaring by throwing the cat out of the house. Like Adam and Eve, the cat had no concept of right or wrong, and forbidding it access to the house mirrors the cruelty displayed by God.

Is this really how you want to depict your God? You really think this analogy is a good one?

More to the point, lets assume that Jose KNEW that leaving the cat trapped in the structure was a bad idea. Knew that the cat would go crazy and cause a mess, he knew all this yet punished the cat anyway, this is exactly what God did. Am I the only one that see's this a total insanity??

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175295 Aug 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I can understand your blindly accepting what other men tell you instead of thinking for yourself. Those headaches can be a real bitch, eh?
Nothing in the above GodSwill Slime, addresses even ONE of my 3 points:

Quantum mechanics proves beyond any doubts, that an omniscient god cannot exist within the present universe.

Period.

That proves to 100% that your god isn't real.

But it's worse: the theory of relativity--well tested-- also proves beyond any doubts that an omniscient god is impossible in the present universe.

That's two.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle? That's 3 proofs you cannot have an all-knowing god in the universe.

That's three-- there's more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175296 Aug 23, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
The question I have to ask that is off topic, is. How do you call yourself Quantum Bob. I give you the theories of alternate existences and you have the opinion you do.
Your "theories" are just hogwash-- religious bullshyt re-painted to seem "scientifical" but still bullshyt all the same.
Robert Stevens wrote:
I know you'll spin this some backwards way as you all ways do.
It's not spin, if it's accurate.
Robert Stevens wrote:
Quantum physics is the greatest proof of a creator. How or why you spin it is beyond me.
Lie. I explained 3 points showing you are lying.

NONE OF WHICH YOU EVEN TRIED TO REFUTE.

Here they are again:

Quantum mechanics proves beyond any doubts, that an omniscient god cannot exist within the present universe.

Period.

That proves to 100% that your god isn't real.

But it's worse: the theory of relativity--well tested-- also proves beyond any doubts that an omniscient god is impossible in the present universe.

That's two.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle? That's 3 proofs you cannot have an all-knowing god in the universe.

That's three-- there's more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175297 Aug 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
It is simple. He doesn't understand what he "knows". But that doesn't stop him. His first lesson in life was if you can't dazzle with brilliance, then baffle with BS. Has served him well.
Nothing in the above GodSwill Slime, addresses even ONE of my 3 points:

Quantum mechanics proves beyond any doubts, that an omniscient god cannot exist within the present universe.

Period.

That proves to 100% that your god isn't real.

But it's worse: the theory of relativity--well tested-- also proves beyond any doubts that an omniscient god is impossible in the present universe.

That's two.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle? That's 3 proofs you cannot have an all-knowing god in the universe.

That's three-- there's more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175298 Aug 23, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
Im starting to think youre mentaly retarded,or on some hard drugs,your posts are total nonsense.
As a bare minimum-- he is clearly mentally damaged.

Sad, isn't it?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175299 Aug 23, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
He does take his bull shit too seriously, but that may be all he has.
And yet?

You did not even TRY to address my 3 proofs there cannot be an omniscient god.

Here they are again:

Quantum mechanics proves beyond any doubts, that an omniscient god cannot exist within the present universe.

Period.

That proves to 100% that your god isn't real.

But it's worse: the theory of relativity--well tested-- also proves beyond any doubts that an omniscient god is impossible in the present universe.

That's two.

The Heisenberg uncertainty principle? That's 3 proofs you cannot have an all-knowing god in the universe.

That's three-- there's more.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175300 Aug 23, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Quaalude Bob. Poly's insignificant other.
Hate speech acknowledged.

Your Jewsus(jesus) would so NOT be proud of your display of hate, here.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175301 Aug 23, 2013
conservative crapola wrote:
Just give Jesus the same chance that he gave you.
Okay!

Zero chance it is, then!

Thanks for playing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175302 Aug 23, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
But nothing moves unless something moves it.
Bullshyt.

What "causes" radioactive decay?

What is the "cause" from one moment to the next, that "makes" a radioactive atom suddenly break into smaller atoms?

Hmmm?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175303 Aug 23, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you can't make a statement "physics supports a creator" and not provide evidence for that claim.
Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
Hot air it is--- he seems to have a lot of that on hand.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175304 Aug 23, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You make this stupid analogy, and then have the balls to call him a nutcase, REALLY?
Did anyone SEE Jose make this structure? Is there any evidence that Jose and not someone else or a group of people were responsible for the structure? Is there any evidence as to WHEN this structure was built? Jose was stupid for leaving the cat in an enclosed structure. Jose should have realized the nature of a cat, and that leaving them confined for a long period of time was asking for trouble. Jose was therefore ignorant. His idiocy was further compounded when he spoke to the cat and expected it to understand. Beside being incredibly stupid, Jose is also cruel and uncaring by throwing the cat out of the house. Like Adam and Eve, the cat had no concept of right or wrong, and forbidding it access to the house mirrors the cruelty displayed by God.
Is this really how you want to depict your God? You really think this analogy is a good one?
More to the point, lets assume that Jose KNEW that leaving the cat trapped in the structure was a bad idea. Knew that the cat would go crazy and cause a mess, he knew all this yet punished the cat anyway, this is exactly what God did. Am I the only one that see's this a total insanity??
No-- you are not the only one who sees the whole Eden story as one of pure insanity writ large.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#175305 Aug 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Hate speech acknowledged.
Your Jewsus(jesus) would so NOT be proud of your display of hate, here.
Gravity (most likely) killed Jesus by asphyxiation.

Supernatural deity...0

Science..........1

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#175307 Aug 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Seeing that the evidence shows those who do not believe in a fictitious being are smarter than those who do believe, then it's understandable how we can have more free time and still make 6 figures.
Your post is a good example of the lesser intelligence believers have, as you have made an assertion without a shred of evidence.
I have a suggestion for you, put down that bible and pick up a science book. Try and cleanse your mind of the celestial dictator peering over your shoulder 24/7, and then maybe, just maybe, you to can have the freedom and leisure we Atheists so enjoy. Good Luck with loosing your horrid delusions.
Some believers have higher I.Q. scores. My cousin is an example of a poorly educated atheist. He quit school to pursue his interest in partying, burning out more brain cells in the process. He denied the existence of God for years. After several years of mental health problems and a few hospitalizations, he wasn't any closer to a positive example of academic achievement. He had to apply for Social Security Disability, which is hardly a six-figure income.

Your statement is really nothing more than a carefully crafted superiority complex, and reveals a very superficial and linear understanding of theological concepts. You seem to have an aptitude for science, math, and music, but that could also be an indicator of
autism. It's well known that people with a sensory handicap such as blindness often develop a more highly developed sense of hearing and/or smell to compensate. In a likewise manner, some people with a "spiritual handicap" attempt to compensate for it with academic studies. Academic and intellectual achievement is a wonderful thing, but only until the point is reached where a person feels "superior" over others. At that point, humility itself is handicapped and crushed to death under the weight of self absorption.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175308 Aug 24, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but watching popularizations on TV just doesn't cut it when discussing QM. Most are so watered down as to be silly. Others are simply wrong in particulars.
I certainly don't know everything, but I do know my subjects: math and physics. If you want references to refereed papers, I can give them.
True Mr Quantum man, but that is just you in your universe. Your universe is true to you, and you only. Amen to that. It is clear it sucks to be you why wish it upon others.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175309 Aug 24, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you can't make a statement "physics supports a creator" and not provide evidence for that claim.
Otherwise, you're just blowing hot air.
Face it you can't prove anything you have faith in your belief. End a rounds in conversations do not change that. You all ready admitted the truth stop being a bull er.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175310 Aug 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Your "theories" are just hogwash-- religious bullshyt re-painted to seem "scientifical" but still bullshyt all the same.
<quoted text>
It's not spin, if it's accurate.
<quoted text>
Lie. I explained 3 points showing you are lying.
NONE OF WHICH YOU EVEN TRIED TO REFUTE.
Here they are again:
Quantum mechanics proves beyond any doubts, that an omniscient god cannot exist within the present universe.
Period.
That proves to 100% that your god isn't real.
But it's worse: the theory of relativity--well tested-- also proves beyond any doubts that an omniscient god is impossible in the present universe.
That's two.
The Heisenberg uncertainty principle? That's 3 proofs you cannot have an all-knowing god in the universe.
That's three-- there's more.
Everyone else that could make it on any science channel says the exact opposite of you, as I said you are in your own private universe, and one that really sucks. Perhaps the reason you're in the minority is no one wants to share your thoughts with children, because they suck. I am sorry for you that you are stuck in YOUR reality. What is true for you is not true for all. Mr so called Quantum, that is your Universe anyway. Amen to that.

“The Edge”

Since: Dec 10

Of Tomorow

#175311 Aug 24, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
True Mr Quantum man, but that is just you in your universe. Your universe is true to you, and you only. Amen to that. It is clear it sucks to be you why wish it upon others.
You delude yourself into thinking you live in some other universe, when the one he speaks of includes you in it. So the physical laws apply to you also, whether you like or admit it.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#175314 Aug 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You make this stupid analogy, and then have the balls to call him a nutcase, REALLY?
Did anyone SEE Jose make this structure? Is there any evidence that Jose and not someone else or a group of people were responsible for the structure? Is there any evidence as to WHEN this structure was built? Jose was stupid for leaving the cat in an enclosed structure. Jose should have realized the nature of a cat, and that leaving them confined for a long period of time was asking for trouble. Jose was therefore ignorant. His idiocy was further compounded when he spoke to the cat and expected it to understand. Beside being incredibly stupid, Jose is also cruel and uncaring by throwing the cat out of the house. Like Adam and Eve, the cat had no concept of right or wrong, and forbidding it access to the house mirrors the cruelty displayed by God.
Is this really how you want to depict your God? You really think this analogy is a good one?
More to the point, lets assume that Jose KNEW that leaving the cat trapped in the structure was a bad idea. Knew that the cat would go crazy and cause a mess, he knew all this yet punished the cat anyway, this is exactly what God did. Am I the only one that see's this a total insanity??
You are not going to get petted with that attitude.

Go eat a bug.

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