Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#174611 Aug 16, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Its already been proven that you're a cowardly liar with no evidence for god being real.
Nobody ever asked you to grow the f up to your face. Only on the atheist forum will you be talked to how you should be - a simple minded liar with no evidence.
Please look the message tread Einstein "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" the answer is hell yeah. You can not or ever will be able to prove The Universe, Earth or life started without a creator. And many of your brightest admitted this. Yes, you can debunk Christian or Catholic stories, but that is not proven there is no creator. You all ways will be a belief, because you can't prove what I am saying and never will be able to. You are a fundamentalist because you spread your crap as you do, it's faith, you have a belief, as posted you can't prove it. Atheism does require faith.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#174612 Aug 16, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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I dont know how many atheist believe that,
I think the Universe always existed in some form,shape,its Eternal and needs NO creator,,
atheism is LACK of belief in gods its that simple ,,,atheism means without belief,comprende?
If that was true you'd be able to -"(prove)"-. clearly you can't prove you have faith in your answer. And from what I am reading here a lot of it. Fundamentalist level.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174615 Aug 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
You overestimate Clunt.
;)
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Yes... you are correct. There is little doubt he is covered in his own feces, as is everything in his house...

... <gag>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174616 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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You can not prove there is no creator therefore you are a person of faith.
I have no need to show "no creator".

All I have to demonstrate? Is that the universe NEEDS NO creator to exist!

This is quite easy to do, too-- and has already been done, in fact.

The present universe needs no creator.

In one step? Your whole reason to get up in the morning has just been invalidated.

I pity you your loss.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174617 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I know there is a God, you can't prove otherwise.
Actually? I can.

Define this "god" beast you claim is real.

Be **specific**--give details.

If you cannot DO that?

Your god is myth-- BY DEFAULT.

Get BUSY!

You have MUCH defining to do!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174618 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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2 things wrong with your statement 1. The topic of this thread is "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" 2. I see no purpose or way to try to prove anything to you.
So you ADMIT you HAVE NO PROOF?

Okay, gotcha.

Without PROOF?

YOUR GOD IS NOT REAL.

Period.

That is the DEFAULT state for ALL claims that have no proof.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174619 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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It is also the belief that all started without a creator, therefore it is and all ways will be a belief with faith
Not belief-- fact.

Current physics has easily demonstrated that UNCAUSED events happen all the time.

The present universe is also UNCAUSED.

In one stroke-- eliminating 100% of your "argument".

I'm so sorry for your loss, here... maybe you can get a pink rabbit to play with?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174620 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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God has been proven many, many times
Lie.

IF YOU HAD PROOF? YOU WOULD PRESENT IT.

You are simply lying-- as is your habit.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174621 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Every day is a miracle, you can't be helped.
Not proof of your god.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174622 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I would rather have my hallucinations than have your reality. Admit it the fate of atheism sucks spreading it is the most asinine thing anyone could do. LOL I do know better at least for myself. Spreading Atheism, really. Might as well drop a spoon of crap from door to door.
Still not proof of your god.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174623 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Please look the message tread Einstein "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" the answer is hell yeah. You can not or ever will be able to prove The Universe, Earth or life started without a creator. And many of your brightest admitted this. Yes, you can debunk Christian or Catholic stories, but that is not proven there is no creator. You all ways will be a belief, because you can't prove what I am saying and never will be able to. You are a fundamentalist because you spread your crap as you do, it's faith, you have a belief, as posted you can't prove it. Atheism does require faith.
STILL not proof of your god.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174624 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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If that was true you'd be able to -"(prove)"-. clearly you can't prove you have faith in your answer. And from what I am reading here a lot of it. Fundamentalist level.
STILL no proof for your fictional deity.

Fail.

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#174625 Aug 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I don't consider proof beyond a reasonable doubt to be the same as 100% certainty. The latter is impossible because of error bars. The former is a better than, say, 5 standard deviation signal.
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No, I am looking for the simplest testable theory. To bring in a supernatural is to bring in a host of factors unnecessary for any explanation without actually providing testability. If you provide a *testable* theory of the supernatural, I am more than willing to look at it and test it. In particular, the tests have to be such that if your theory is *wrong*, we can tell via the tests.
I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?

Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.

Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?

Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174626 Aug 16, 2013
These Doctor's provided observable evidence for the soul? If so present it otherwise fail miserably.
Robert Stevens wrote:
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There are many books that you could read to prove otherwise, I'll go with Dr Michael Newton and Brian Weiss as examples. There is so much proof I could conclude you just refuse to admit it, but I believe you. I am willing to take you at your word, and conclude, that you have no soul. Both authors I mentioned as well as others do touch on this. Possibility will all ways exist regardless of if it is excepted. It is you that believes in and pushes the figurative reality, otherwise you'd be able to admit the simple fact. Until we know everything we can't prove there is no creator. Therefore atheism is faith based. As your passion on the topic by itself proves.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174627 Aug 16, 2013
He has spent time in the mental ward no doubt about it. He sounds like a bi-polar freak.
xianity is EVIL wrote:
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anointed?
you mean cornholed no doubt!
LOL

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174628 Aug 16, 2013
Exactly! He ran in fear when I posted the link showing that 25,000 year old statuette. As expected they have nothing but their own assertions.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You lie-- cave paintings and other human artifacts date to 30,000 years and older.
You hategodbots-- you just LIE and LIE and lie and lie and lie and ..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174629 Aug 16, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
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I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?
Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.
Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?
Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D
Hi, R.A.!

I'd like to answer your question:

Unlike Nagel, I would love for there to be some sort of beneficial overlord watching out for humanities' fate.

Seriously-- that would be cool, and would lay to rest the worry that some external catastrophic event from wiping out humans (like a giant meteor, or a passing dark sun).

Alas, there is simply too much preventable evil in the present world, to convince me there are **any** gods of merit out there.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174630 Aug 16, 2013
Why is Thomas Nagel so important to you? He voiced his opinion which relies on the God of the gaps argument and was factually called out on that. You do realize Thomas is just a Philosopher right? He is not a biologist, Astronomer or a Physicist so quoting his opinion really means nothing except that he said something you approve of based on your life of superstitious blind faith right?

It's okay we know you can't answer this, cower away as usual little puppet :)
Roman Apologist wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?
Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.
Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?
Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D
every game

Pelham, AL

#174631 Aug 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hi, R.A.!
I'd like to answer your question:
Unlike Nagel, I would love for there to be some sort of beneficial overlord watching out for humanities' fate.
Seriously-- that would be cool, and would lay to rest the worry that some external catastrophic event from wiping out humans (like a giant meteor, or a passing dark sun).
Alas, there is simply too much preventable evil in the present world, to convince me there are **any** gods of merit out there.
but for some reason you just CAN NOT walk away from the subject of God. if i were an atheist, i would never talk about God ever again. why is it that you can't ????
every game

Pelham, AL

#174632 Aug 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why is Thomas Nagel so important to you?
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why is God so important to you if you think He does not exist.????* your paranoia is apparent.

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