Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174622 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I would rather have my hallucinations than have your reality. Admit it the fate of atheism sucks spreading it is the most asinine thing anyone could do. LOL I do know better at least for myself. Spreading Atheism, really. Might as well drop a spoon of crap from door to door.
Still not proof of your god.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174623 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Please look the message tread Einstein "Atheism requires as much faith as religion" the answer is hell yeah. You can not or ever will be able to prove The Universe, Earth or life started without a creator. And many of your brightest admitted this. Yes, you can debunk Christian or Catholic stories, but that is not proven there is no creator. You all ways will be a belief, because you can't prove what I am saying and never will be able to. You are a fundamentalist because you spread your crap as you do, it's faith, you have a belief, as posted you can't prove it. Atheism does require faith.
STILL not proof of your god.

Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174624 Aug 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
If that was true you'd be able to -"(prove)"-. clearly you can't prove you have faith in your answer. And from what I am reading here a lot of it. Fundamentalist level.
STILL no proof for your fictional deity.

Fail.

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#174625 Aug 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't consider proof beyond a reasonable doubt to be the same as 100% certainty. The latter is impossible because of error bars. The former is a better than, say, 5 standard deviation signal.
<quoted text>
No, I am looking for the simplest testable theory. To bring in a supernatural is to bring in a host of factors unnecessary for any explanation without actually providing testability. If you provide a *testable* theory of the supernatural, I am more than willing to look at it and test it. In particular, the tests have to be such that if your theory is *wrong*, we can tell via the tests.
I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?

Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.

Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?

Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174626 Aug 16, 2013
These Doctor's provided observable evidence for the soul? If so present it otherwise fail miserably.
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
There are many books that you could read to prove otherwise, I'll go with Dr Michael Newton and Brian Weiss as examples. There is so much proof I could conclude you just refuse to admit it, but I believe you. I am willing to take you at your word, and conclude, that you have no soul. Both authors I mentioned as well as others do touch on this. Possibility will all ways exist regardless of if it is excepted. It is you that believes in and pushes the figurative reality, otherwise you'd be able to admit the simple fact. Until we know everything we can't prove there is no creator. Therefore atheism is faith based. As your passion on the topic by itself proves.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174627 Aug 16, 2013
He has spent time in the mental ward no doubt about it. He sounds like a bi-polar freak.
xianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
anointed?
you mean cornholed no doubt!
LOL

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174628 Aug 16, 2013
Exactly! He ran in fear when I posted the link showing that 25,000 year old statuette. As expected they have nothing but their own assertions.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie-- cave paintings and other human artifacts date to 30,000 years and older.
You hategodbots-- you just LIE and LIE and lie and lie and lie and ..

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174629 Aug 16, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?
Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.
Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?
Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D
Hi, R.A.!

I'd like to answer your question:

Unlike Nagel, I would love for there to be some sort of beneficial overlord watching out for humanities' fate.

Seriously-- that would be cool, and would lay to rest the worry that some external catastrophic event from wiping out humans (like a giant meteor, or a passing dark sun).

Alas, there is simply too much preventable evil in the present world, to convince me there are **any** gods of merit out there.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#174630 Aug 16, 2013
Why is Thomas Nagel so important to you? He voiced his opinion which relies on the God of the gaps argument and was factually called out on that. You do realize Thomas is just a Philosopher right? He is not a biologist, Astronomer or a Physicist so quoting his opinion really means nothing except that he said something you approve of based on your life of superstitious blind faith right?

It's okay we know you can't answer this, cower away as usual little puppet :)
Roman Apologist wrote:
<quoted text>
I understand your point. But again I have to ask, how would you compare your own atheism with what Thomas Nagel says? That he doesn't want God to exist. What's your philosophical position on his blunt honesty about it? How does his philosophy compare with your own?
Oh, here's a joke you might enjoy.
Question: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with an atheist?
Answer: Somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.:D
every game

Pelham, AL

#174631 Aug 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, R.A.!
I'd like to answer your question:
Unlike Nagel, I would love for there to be some sort of beneficial overlord watching out for humanities' fate.
Seriously-- that would be cool, and would lay to rest the worry that some external catastrophic event from wiping out humans (like a giant meteor, or a passing dark sun).
Alas, there is simply too much preventable evil in the present world, to convince me there are **any** gods of merit out there.
but for some reason you just CAN NOT walk away from the subject of God. if i were an atheist, i would never talk about God ever again. why is it that you can't ????
every game

Pelham, AL

#174632 Aug 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why is Thomas Nagel so important to you?
<quoted text>
why is God so important to you if you think He does not exist.????* your paranoia is apparent.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#174633 Aug 16, 2013
Redoran wrote:
<quoted text>We have a free range Yellow Nape Amazon. We have NO idea what you mean. Our guy has free range in our house. He is never "locked in". Next to his cage is a PCV playpen with a half dozen toys to keep him entertained. Anyone who keeps a bird in lockdown is a sadist. How do you "keep" your wifey?
By bird managed to get out once

Destroyed my house. Curtains chewed up and knocked down. Everything he could destroy, he did destroy.

The clincher was an electrical cord. Both sets of wires exposed. I don't know how he wasn't electrocuted.

I did, for a while, keep his wings clipped and take him out with me.

That was pretty cool.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#174634 Aug 16, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>YO thinking I, being anointed by God to do battle against atheists, and other lost in the wilderness morons, cannot be insulted. Try as you may, it is against all the laws of physics to insult yours truly. Physically, and mentally stronger than steel, blessed by God with Heavenly knowledge, and wisdom. That gives me unbreakable strength to fight off miniscule, unintelligent, and in reality, out and out stupid morons like yourself. I have faith in God, the maker of everything, even losers like you (which proves God has a sense of humor). You brainless dip-sticks strengthen my faith, and my resolve. Now, get off your daddy's computer before he comes home and sticks you with his pitchfork. ya hear me boy
Oh wow...well aren't you special lol
xianity is EVIL

Tecumseh, Canada

#174635 Aug 16, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
By bird managed to get out once
Destroyed my house. Curtains chewed up and knocked down. Everything he could destroy, he did destroy.
The clincher was an electrical cord. Both sets of wires exposed. I don't know how he wasn't electrocuted.
I did, for a while, keep his wings clipped and take him out with me.
That was pretty cool.
that reminded me of this comedy

http://youtu.be/cixXYvNjwHk

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#174636 Aug 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why is Thomas Nagel so important to you? He voiced his opinion which relies on the God of the gaps argument and was factually called out on that. You do realize Thomas is just a Philosopher right? He is not a biologist, Astronomer or a Physicist so quoting his opinion really means nothing except that he said something you approve of based on your life of superstitious blind faith right?
It's okay we know you can't answer this, cower away as usual little puppet :)
<quoted text>
Up to your usual bags of tricks I see. At least your consistent in being wrong. Do keep up the good work. Oh, and just so you know, I don't answer your questions. Just because they come from you. Now if Bob or Poly ask me the same questions, I'll answer. You don't deserve my answers. But by all means, continue thinking you're that important.:)

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#174637 Aug 16, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>why is God so important to you if you think He does not exist.????* your paranoia is apparent.
We respond to things that are brought up in this forum....true to topix, you can't have a forum that doesn't involve people who have an opinion so we spend a lot of time talking about "god" because that is what the believers bring over here. It would still be discussed some even if the believers weren't here simply because we discuss things that are happening in the world, but odds are not near as much.

“a.k.a. GhostWriter2U”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#174638 Aug 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi, R.A.!
I'd like to answer your question:
Unlike Nagel, I would love for there to be some sort of beneficial overlord watching out for humanities' fate.
Seriously-- that would be cool, and would lay to rest the worry that some external catastrophic event from wiping out humans (like a giant meteor, or a passing dark sun).
Alas, there is simply too much preventable evil in the present world, to convince me there are **any** gods of merit out there.
Okay Bob. I appreciate your answer. Seriously. Now do you mind if I ask you another question?

Have you tried looking at the problem of evil from a different perspective?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174639 Aug 16, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>
but for some reason you just CAN NOT walk away from the subject of God. if i were an atheist, i would never talk about God ever again. why is it that you can't ????
Because hatetheists keep passing bigoted LAWS based on their ugly myth-god?

But you are not an atheist-- you are a hatecultist.

So you are clueless about atheism.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#174640 Aug 16, 2013
Roman Apologist wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay Bob. I appreciate your answer. Seriously. Now do you mind if I ask you another question?
Have you tried looking at the problem of evil from a different perspective?
There is no excuse for allowing evil to destroy the innocent.

None.

Epicurus stated it best, so I'll quote him first:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Whence then is evil?"

Or in more detail by another philosopher:

"God, he says, either wants to eliminate bad things and cannot,
or can but does not want to,
or neither wishes to nor can,
or both wants to and can.

If he wants to and cannot, then he is weak and this does not apply to god.

If he can but does not want to, then he is spiteful which is equally foreign to god's nature.

If he neither wants to nor can, he is both weak and spiteful, and so not a god.

If he wants to and can, which is the only thing fitting for a god, where then do bad things come from? Or why does he not eliminate them?"

~ Lactantius, On the Anger of God, 13.19

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#174641 Aug 16, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>
I, being anointed by God to do battle against atheists.
Okay Adolph, But I'm warning you ...It ends badly for you.

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