Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Jun 13, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Said the Pot to the Kettle.
And that's what you're on.
Can anyone else hear the echo in here?

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Except the voices in his head.
Bet it's hot 'n' stuffy in there.

Many voices, very little room.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>ID proponent KJV? Lmfao!

This is what your 18th screen name?

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Stupid Christhole!:))
No this is my second screen name and my first registered name.

You must have missed the other 5 post where I said I was KJV.
No surprise you do miss a lot.
When you leaving for the islands to do your charity work ?

How retirement working out for you?

Making a bundle on you're porn site are you?

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Jun 13, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>Most people know enough to type it.

Most people, that is.

(Note the comma.)
Yup. I'm looking at it.....

What's it's suppose to do?

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CunningLinguist wrote:
The Big 10 – A simple logic problem

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

The second commandment tells us that Yahweh is a jealous God, punishing not just those who make graven images, but also their innocent children and children's children, down to the fourth generation. Imagine the universal denunciation that would accompany the enactment of such policies in the modern world, say a policy that punishes the children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of thiefs, for example.

The whole premise that innocent people should be deliberately punished for the actions of their ancestors is both absurd and morally indefensible.

Especially interesting is the fact that almost no Christian in the entire world obeys or even attempts to obey the first sentence, which states clearly that making images and likenesses of anything in heaven or earth is forbidden.

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

The third commandment is yet another affirmation of Yahweh's jealous nature and willingness to punish those who offend him.

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Personally, I find it hard to believe that any supernatural beings are concerned, or would have been concerned at any time in the past, with my weekend work schedule.

No such apathy is apparent in the Old Testament, where the penalty for working on the sabbath is exactly the same as for worshipping other Gods -- death by stoning.

In Numbers, the following touching story is recounted:
"While the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day. And those who found him gathering sticks brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation. They put him in custody, because it had not been made plain what should be done to him. And the LORD said to Moses,'The man shall be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp.' And all the congregation brought him outside the camp, and stoned him to death with stones, as the LORD commanded Moses" (15:32-36).

One can imagine the discussions that would take place in history classes across the nation: "Mr. Smith, is it really true that Yahweh thought it was right to stone people to death for working on the wrong day of the week? If we are totally free to disobey the fourth commandment, why aren't we allowed to disobey the others?"
Yup then he sent his only son to pay for all of those sins so everyone can go to heaven. Oh I'm sorry you didn't want to share this part did you. Sorry to wreck your soap box speech.

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Sam wrote:
I know there is one!!!. I once asked God for a wife, 5 months later, He gave me a wh**e!. I do admit, I did Blaspheme God two years on down before this but I stopped this. I figured this is why God raped me!. If God DIDNT want to give me a wife He sure as Hell DIDNT have to give me that rotten wh**e!!!. Since God fostered this evil upon me My Blaspheming Him came back with a vengence!!!. I lay it on old God now. I Blaspheme God real good now, HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I do it more then ever and I don't care if I do go burn forever, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!. GIVE ME ANOTHER WH**E GOD!!!!!!!...
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#168859
Jun 13, 2013
 
CunningLinguist wrote:
SATAN - Another simple logic problem.

Theologians must agree that, by definition, an omniscient (all-knowing) God would have known that ultimately evil would stalk the world he was creating.

There can be no doubt that evil is here; so God must have foreseen it.

Theologians must likewise agree that an omnibenevolent, all-merciful, God would never inflict pain and suffering on his own purportedly beloved human creations. And finally, they must agree that an omnipotent God would have had the option of creating a world with no evil in it.

Nothing in the entire universe could have prevented him from doing whatever he wanted, since he is omnipotent. So, how did evil arrive on the scene?

Blaming humanity's "free will" won't work. An all-knowing God would know exactly where that "free will" would lead-to evil. So if he didn't want evil to exist, he shouldn't have created free will.

There's no getting around it. If God did not know evil would be in the world, he could not be all-knowing. If he knew there would be evil and chose to allow it, he could not be all-merciful. If he knew there would be evil but could not do anything to prevent it, he could not be all-powerful. If you insist on insisting that God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent, you must then also insist that there is no evil in this world-which of course is nonsense.

True Believers are stuck with this insolvable problem. This "Question of Evil" destroys the argument that posits an all-powerful, all-merciful, all-knowing god.

People blame Satan for the evils of the world, but blaming Satan won't work since an omnipotent God could have created a universe with no Satan in it. God is omnipotent, remember?

Therefore Satan's origins are as impossible to explain as evil.

For Christians, though, the problem is multifaceted. The concept of three beings equaling one God is murky enough. But if you then throw Satan into the mix you've got a real mess. If Satan is a supernatural power, and I think it's fair to say that sponsoring something as spectacular as Hell qualifies someone as a supernatural being, then here's the problem.

If Christians claim Satan exists, they have only two choices:

(1) They must grant that Satan is a deity, bad-ass or otherwise, meaning they no longer may lay claim to monotheism. It's a (minimum) Two-Deity Universe.

(2) They can add Satan to their Holy Trinity, as a Fallen Angel or a Bad Seed or whatever, making their already crowded Trinity burst its seams and sprout a fourth side.

There are no other options if Satan is deemed to possess the awesome powers Christians assign to Him. And Satan's fearsome credentials are firmly established. He is a most inconvenient deity in an ersatz monotheistic Christianity.

Making things worse, and another factor always overlooked, is that Satan has a companion in his sadistic voyeurism-God. Knowing/seeing all things, God will surely witness the same screams of anguish from the souls in Hell that the Devil will witness.

The theological tangle that arises inescapably from the proposition that both God and Satan oversee the unimaginable, endless torment of human souls is quite real and quite insolvable.

Which explins why it is ignored by Christians. When challenged on the point, they are likely respond "Satan enjoys the human agony, while God laments it"

Tears, Sob and Sniff... so the two are not companions in sadistic voyeurism?

Sorry, but that dog won't hunt.

Satan is necessary if you are going to try to reconcile a loving, all-powerful God with an evil world; but God still has to takes the responsibility for the existence of Hell.
Yup

See God gave you freedom of choice.
Therefore he had to also provide the choices. Would not be much of a gift if he gave you freedom of choice when there was no choice would it?

Didn't really think that one through too well did ya?

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Jun 13, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Yes you have made a jackass out of yourself as usual so we understand.

Take care of that head injury and try to keep yourself in dry unsoiled pants now.
Where the hell is your gay blade pink equal sign?

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Jun 13, 2013
 
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>So you have nothing to counter what I stated, again.
Was it worth reading?

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Jun 13, 2013
 
He's great for a laugh, it's almost endearing when he comes on here spouting his incorrect and antiquated data. Then when proven factually wrong he goes on his... You atheists (insert insult here) everyone just shrugs and laughs like we would at any dithering old man with soggy britches.
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>I used to.

But not any more.

He's old enough to know better.

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#168863
Jun 13, 2013
 
What feelings would that be Dave? See you need to communicate properly, we can't hear the voices in your head.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>:-)

I can assume you have never had one of those feelings where you feel someone staring at you, or you get goosebumps out of nowhere.

Am I right?

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#168864
Jun 13, 2013
 
Dave I have already made it clear you will never get to give me head.

Just deal with it.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Dave Nelson wrote:
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You must be in bed with GML and answering the phone for him. Would you put him on the line, please?

Then you must be his mother.

When you two get done, have him give me a call, please.

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#168865
Jun 13, 2013
 
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
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Weird
That was 'Sam the Spammer'.

He's posted that at least five times now, that I've noticed.

Dude must be r-e-e-e-e-e-a-l-l-y be proud of it.

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Jun 13, 2013
 
Yes you change screen names more often than buck changes inmates for cupcakes! Hahahahahaha!

Wifey and I are heading back to the Philippines this September for a few weeks and will donate our time and money while down there, pictures as usual on Facebook thanks.

Just working out daily thanks, I got lazy for a bit there and wifey loves a toned tummy :)

They vary month to month of course. Steady passive income is the main thing. I make more on my rentals anyways.

Thanks
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>No this is my second screen name and my first registered name.

You must have missed the other 5 post where I said I was KJV.
No surprise you do miss a lot.
When you leaving for the islands to do your charity work ?

How retirement working out for you?

Making a bundle on you're porn site are you?

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Jun 13, 2013
 
Ignore one of those (be)s.

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Givemeliberty wrote:
What feelings would that be Dave? See you need to communicate properly, we can't hear the voices in your head.
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I knew you would show up after I said goodnight.

As usual, you misunderstand the reason I posted that, and as usual you go off on some delusional tangent, completely ignoring it. Probably scares you.

But anyhow, if ever a feeling like that should suddenly grab you, you should immediately shut your mouth and quit showing your ass. Someone, or something, may be coming in there. It won't be what you are used to.

You are sooo flucking easy.

Now I will go to sleep. Goodnight
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#168870
Jun 13, 2013
 
Atheism sprouts as many 'denominations' as mainstream religion. Funny thing about beliefs, everyone is darn sure what they believe is the honest truth. To believe in the institutions of man is the surest and quickest way to failure.

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Jun 13, 2013
 
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>That would be easy, since we ignored your entire post.
We?

Who's "we"?

Bcuz...

You replied.

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Jun 14, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I knew you would show up after I said goodnight.
As usual, you misunderstand the reason I posted that, and as usual you go off on some delusional tangent, completely ignoring it. Probably scares you.
But anyhow, if ever a feeling like that should suddenly grab you, you should immediately shut your mouth and quit showing your ass. Someone, or something, may be coming in there. It won't be what you are used to.
You are sooo flucking easy.
Now I will go to sleep. Goodnight
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Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Actually there are quite a few with the same generic logic and view I have, and the number is growing. You would notice if you got out of your safety zone here. We all can get along. We aren't into "attacking" like your pathology is. What you are seeing is us club you over the head as you attempt to scale the walls. With your limited perspectives and thought processes, you take that as an attack. It is actually protecting you in a way. Mad dogs getting over the wall won't last too long.

You will have a lot of trouble trying to understand that.
Dave I couldn't care less what you think or don't think of me. You're just a condescending f...

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