Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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<quoted text>Are you saying that Hiding, Happy Lesbo, River Tam, Kittenkoder and Christianity is Evil are not considered women in your life? Because if so, please step back and re-check your surroundings. Now, a real man, not you, would give a woman who regularly contains herself, Clementia, space and tolerance. It always amazes me how people measure out their judgment.
still in Therapy Chunkyboy?

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You didn't know about that? It's very sad Clem
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I'm sorry, Mr liberty guy, u were never good to me to start with but then u were very nice to me. Sorry, I flipped at u, as u can see, i've been having a crazy day today! I got out my car and my pills fell down the gutter, u know, it happens sometimes! SORRY!!! u have the right to punish me anyway u want (please have mercy)!!:-(
christianity is EVIL

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I am sure your most creative abilities are dedicated to your ego enlargement.
thats not necesarily a bad thing,on the contrary,,

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19497551/The-Femini...

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Uh huh.
Endorphins shut out some of the pain and sensations. Kind of works on an intact brain that has blood pumping.
It stops pumping when you are dying. In fact, most things tend to stop their normal processes in such an event.
Dead bodies are notorious for not being animated and a certain lack of interactiveness between the body and the mind.
Your brain portion, your consciousness center, is a little pool of quivering chemicals within the greater mass breaking down randomly.
Little pools of oxygen throughout the body and the brain, chemical processes, and the accompanying neural activity, which all add up to your physical consciousness. All falling apart piecemeal. Uncontrolled thinking. Memory banks being flushed. No escape for a physical consciousness.
Not an organized shutdown. But YOU will be the center of it. And the one affected.
Shut down blood flow, the brain is dead, no matter how you spin it, you have no evidence that life continues on after death.

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Shut down blood flow, the brain is dead, no matter how you spin it, you have no evidence that life continues on after death.
You evidently didn't read the article. Or my comment on it.

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You evidently didn't read the article. Or my comment on it.
The brain cannot "feel" anything without oxygen.
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<quoted text>Sir, you are a racist bigot atheist, who does not even know that Imhotep was a black Israelite formerly known as Joseph.
means the one who comes in peace
Was one of twelve siblings)
And you are wrong! I'm not atheist at all.

THE AFFIRMATIONS OF HUMANISM: A STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES http://snipurl.com/qs7mz : http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php ...

[1] We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.

[2] We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, explain the world in supernatural terms, and look outside nature for salvation.

[3] We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.

[4] We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.

[5] We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.

[6] We [prefer] negotiation and compromise to [resolve] differences and achiev[e] mutual understanding.

[7] We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.

[8] We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.

[9] We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on [prejudices] and strive to work together for the common good.

[10] We want to protect, preserve and enhance the earth, and avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.

[11] We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.

[12] We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.

[13] Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.

[14] We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. Together we discover normative standards tested by their consequences.

[15] We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.

[16] We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.

[17] We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.

[18] We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas.

[19] We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.

[20] We believe in optimism, hope, learning, truth, joy, tolerance, love, compassion, beauty, and reason rather than pessimism, despair, dogma, ignorance, guilt or sin, fear, hatred, selfishness, ugliness, and blind, irrational faith.

[21] We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.

This is your ugly credo...

" Happy are the ones who takes and dashes
Your little ones against the rock! "
-- Psalm 137.9.

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I am sure your most creative abilities are dedicated to your ego enlargement.
The judgemental creationist piece of sh*t with no proof of god returns.
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TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Sir, you are a racist bigot atheist, who does not even know that Imhotep was a black Israelite formerly known as Joseph.
Joseph

Name means the one who comes in peace
Was one of twelve siblings)
You're correct I don't know anything about Imhotep except...

The Upper Egyptian Famine Stela, dating from the Ptolemaic period, bears an inscription containing a legend about a famine of seven years during the reign of Djoser. Imhotep is credited with having been instrumental in ending it. One of his priests explained the connection between the god Khnum and the rise of the Nile to the king, who then had a dream in which the Nile god spoke to him, promising to end the drought.

These dreams are another factor which has led some scholars to associate Imhotep with the Biblical figure of Joseph.

A papyrus from the ancient Egyptian temple of Tebtunis, dating to the 2nd century AD, preserves a long story in the demotic script about Imhotep. King Djoser plays a prominent role in the story, which also mentions Imhotep's family; his father the god Ptah, his mother Khereduankh, and his little-sister Renpetneferet. At one point Djoser desires the young Renpetnefereret, and Imhotep disguises himself and tries to rescue her. The text also refers to the royal tomb of Djoser by which the Step Pyramid must be meant. An anachronistic detail is a battle between the Egyptian and Assyrian armies where Imhotep fights an Assyrian sorceress in a duel of magic.

In Ancient Egypt, Imhotep was considered to be an example of "personality cult" of Kemet, the notion that a person can be deified after his death and become some sort of a special intercessor for the living. Nonetheless, the conditions of Imhotep’s death are unknown. The mystery behind his death is amplified as his disappearance coincided with the disappearance of all his medical texts and architectural manuscripts. His tomb has never been found.

In addition, despite his major impact on Ancient Egyptian architecture and field of medicine, even ancient historians failed to write about him, which adds to his mystery. What makes this mystery somewhat ironic is that the name "Imhotep" in Ancient Egyptian language translates to “He who came in peace,” underlining the way he came into the world, made his impact, and left it in peace taking all his genius work with him. However, Imhotep became even more famous with his death and was worshipped for 2,000 years afterwards. Because of the mystery behind his death, he was considered as a demi-god. In Greek mythology, Asclepius was the god of medicine, therefore, Imhotep was often associated with him. Some even believed that he was Asclepius himself. Only statues made of him remained which referred to his genius mind and served to illustrate his existence on earth. After his death, he was known to be responsible for the use of columns and monumental stone in Egyptian architecture and considered to have fully advanced ancient Egyptian medicine.

Nevertheless, he slowly turned into a legend and then a myth.

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You evidently didn't read the article. Or my comment on it.
All you need to do is proof the god you're lying about. Thats all you need to do. We don;t need to do anything.

That's called the burden of proof: "if you hallucinate it, you have to prove t before anyone pays you any attention"
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TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Sir, you are a racist bigot atheist, who does not even know that Imhotep was a black Israelite formerly known as Joseph.
Joseph
Second in command under Pharoah
Lived to be 110 years of age
Great architect and builder
Stored up corn during 7 yrs of plenty
Saw seven years of famine - fed people
Interpreter of dreams
Built pyramids & palaces
Zaphnath-paaneah- Over physicians
Instituted a income tax of one fifth
Married into the Priesthood of On
Knowledge of astrology
Coat of many breadths/colors (pas)=wide tunic)
A poet and educated medical writer
Overseer of public works
Legendary history
Name means to add, increase, to join or gather together
Was one of twelve siblings
Imhotep
Second in command under Pharoah Djoser
Lived to be 110 years of age
Great architect and builder
Stored up corn during 7 yrs of plenty
Saw seven years of famine - fed people
Interpreter of dreams
Built the Step Pyramid & palaces
Was a physician
Instituted a income tax of one fifth
Married into the Priesthood of On
Knowledge of astrology
coat of many breadths/colors (pas)=wide tunic)
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A poet and educated medical writer
Overseer of public works
Legendary history
Name means the one who comes in peace
Was one of twelve siblings)
Joseph?

Like those of the Jewish writer Josephus, the works of the ancient historians Pliny, Suetonius and Tacitus do not provide proof that Jesus Christ ever existed as a "historical" character.

Pliny the Younger, Roman Official and Historian (62-113 CE)

Tacitus, Roman Politician and Historian,(c. 56-120 CE)

Suetonius, Roman Historian (c. 69-c. 122 CE)

When addressing the mythical nature of Jesus Christ, one issue repeatedly raised is the purported "evidence" of his existence to be found in the writings of Flavius Josephus, the famed Jewish general and historian who lived from about 37 to 100 CE.

In Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews appears the notorious passage regarding Christ called the "Testimonium Flavianum" ("TF"):

"Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day."

The are: No sculptures, no drawings, no markings in stone, nothing written in his own hand; and no letters, no commentaries, indeed no authentic documents written by his Jewish and Gentile contemporaries, Justice of Tiberius, Philo, Josephus, Seneca, Petronius Arbiter, Pliny the Elder, et al., to lend credence to his historicity."

In the final analysis there is no evidence that the biblical character called "Jesus Christ" ever existed.

All of these historians were born well after the alleged events.

'Hearsay' is not 'evidence' for a reason!

Caesar by comparison is easily verified.

Next? LOL

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All you need to do is proof the god you're lying about. Thats all you need to do. We don;t need to do anything.
That's called the burden of proof: "if you hallucinate it, you have to prove t before anyone pays you any attention"
You are wrong. I don't need to prove anything to you. This is real life, not a debate class. You must be very young, or developmentally disadvanataged.

You gotta prove things for yourself. It is your ass when you get planted, no one else's.

Youngblood, there are many things you go through in life you don't understand or even agree with because of social necessities and pressures. Like going to war, or havinga job you hate so you can eat, Your death will remove you from those influences.

You are viewing existence as a trained monkey.

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Was it your birth control pills?:)
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<quoted text>I'm sorry, Mr liberty guy, u were never good to me to start with but then u were very nice to me. Sorry, I flipped at u, as u can see, i've been having a crazy day today! I got out my car and my pills fell down the gutter, u know, it happens sometimes! SORRY!!! u have the right to punish me anyway u want (please have mercy)!!:-(

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No Dave we read it, it's just we have not suffered the same head injuries you have and so we don't accept life after death rubbish.
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<quoted text>You evidently didn't read the article. Or my comment on it.
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<quoted text>Are you saying that Hiding, Happy Lesbo, River Tam, Kittenkoder and Christianity is Evil are not considered women in your life? Because if so, please step back and re-check your surroundings. Now, a real man, not you, would give a woman who regularly contains herself, Clementia, space and tolerance. It always amazes me how people measure out their judgment.
None of those women are IN MY LIFE numbnuts.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are wrong. I don't need to prove anything to you. This is real life, not a debate class. You must be very young, or developmentally disadvanataged.
You gotta prove things for yourself. It is your ass when you get planted, no one else's.
Youngblood, there are many things you go through in life you don't understand or even agree with because of social necessities and pressures. Like going to war, or havinga job you hate so you can eat, Your death will remove you from those influences.
You are viewing existence as a trained monkey.
Actually this is your *life in a debate class.
Now take off your shoes and stfu and listen ,

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Was it your birth control pills?:)
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Yh, the invisible imaginary ones, u numpty!

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are wrong. I don't need to prove anything to you. This is real life, not a debate class. You must be very young, or developmentally disadvanataged.
You gotta prove things for yourself. It is your ass when you get planted, no one else's.
Youngblood, there are many things you go through in life you don't understand or even agree with because of social necessities and pressures. Like going to war, or havinga job you hate so you can eat, Your death will remove you from those influences.
You are viewing existence as a trained monkey.
All those things you listed, if you don't understand them, you are simply too stupid to live.
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I am sure your most creative abilities are dedicated to your ego enlargement.
Being creative is something you should probably not comment on since it is a totally foreign concept for you. I'm sure Renoir, Stravinsky, Holst, Wagner, Ellington, Evans, would all tell you the same.

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I think Dave expects everyone to blindly accept his dithering. My grandpa is like that. If he says the sky is made of cheese it has to be made of cheese.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Actually this is your *life in a debate class.
Now take off your shoes and stfu and listen ,

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