Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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May 4, 2013
 
Its important that interlopers like poster of the year, Buck, Dave, and the famous Bobloblah continue to repudiate and expose deviant prevaricating atheists.
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May 4, 2013
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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Thanks, BobBlowjob.
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May 4, 2013
 
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<quoted text>04May13.....One thing for sure 'snatcher', and that is that you Really & Truly know how to spell BobLoblah while you spell 'Catcher' with a 1. Who in da hell spells 'catcher' with a 1...!!!

BobLoblah has been inside your schidt-for-brains for so long now that you haven't had a goot sleep for a long, long dime.

ALL 'Real' good members know BobLoblah and ALL 'evil' ones know BobLoblah even more.

Now, shove your head backUP inside your arseHole where it belongs.

Forever and Ever
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Wassatta, blah blah?

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May 4, 2013
 

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<quoted text>It should be boob?
Bobble, as in bobble head.

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May 4, 2013
 
Sad. You have to pity the people who suffer because of religion.
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<quoted text>Some survive, despite being shot in the head...

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#164924
May 4, 2013
 
Ya his other screen name was banned so he had to make a new one.
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<quoted text>Wassatta, blah blah?

You get banned?

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May 4, 2013
 
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/04/con...

Interesting article.

A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.

Except he isn't sleepy.

Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.

All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.

Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.

Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.

Waiting.

Waiting.

A never ending nightmare.

It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.

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#164927
May 4, 2013
 
I didn't see anything there about topix atheists perhaps your Alzheimer's created that?

Still threatening people with eternal hell gramps? Stick to using that line at church it will only get laughter here :)
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http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death

A never ending nightmare..

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
Evolution did. They're called endorphins.

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May 4, 2013
 
madscot wrote:
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Evolution did. They're called endorphins.
Uh huh.

Endorphins shut out some of the pain and sensations. Kind of works on an intact brain that has blood pumping.

It stops pumping when you are dying. In fact, most things tend to stop their normal processes in such an event.

Dead bodies are notorious for not being animated and a certain lack of interactiveness between the body and the mind.

Your brain portion, your consciousness center, is a little pool of quivering chemicals within the greater mass breaking down randomly.

Little pools of oxygen throughout the body and the brain, chemical processes, and the accompanying neural activity, which all add up to your physical consciousness. All falling apart piecemeal. Uncontrolled thinking. Memory banks being flushed. No escape for a physical consciousness.

Not an organized shutdown. But YOU will be the center of it. And the one affected.

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
When you get to the bottom of things they usually paint quite a different picture.

"Parnia's belief is backed up by his experience at the margin of life and death in intensive care units for the past two decades he did his training at Guy's and St Thomas' in London and particularly in the past five years or so when most of the advances in resuscitation have occurred.

*Those advances most notably the (drastic cooling of the corpse to slow neuronal deterioration and the monitoring and maintenance of oxygen levels to the brain) have not yet become accepted possibilities in the medical profession. Parnia is on a mission to change that."

Note the *()

What this doctor has realized , is there is a larger window of successfully bringing a person back from clinical death without resulting in a person in a vegetative state due to brain damage.
Nothing suggests supernatural, it does suggest that memory does not degrade terribly if the blood /brain cooling methods are used
and more time is allowed in getting the patient to respond to treatments and restarting the patients heart.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/06...

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
You had me worried, dude.

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Dead bodies are notorious for not being animated .
Sorry to select just one statement from your far longer post.

But it's hilarious!

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May 4, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> When you get to the bottom of things they usually paint quite a different picture.
"Parnia's belief is backed up by his experience at the margin of life and death in intensive care units for the past two decades he did his training at Guy's and St Thomas' in London and particularly in the past five years or so when most of the advances in resuscitation have occurred.
*Those advances most notably the (drastic cooling of the corpse to slow neuronal deterioration and the monitoring and maintenance of oxygen levels to the brain) have not yet become accepted possibilities in the medical profession. Parnia is on a mission to change that."
Note the *()
What this doctor has realized , is there is a larger window of successfully bringing a person back from clinical death without resulting in a person in a vegetative state due to brain damage.
Nothing suggests supernatural, it does suggest that memory does not degrade terribly if the blood /brain cooling methods are used
and more time is allowed in getting the patient to respond to treatments and restarting the patients heart.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/06...
You are missimng the point that if the consicousness is a captive of the material, as you profess, then the chemical decomposition would result in ever increasing random firings of neurons and disorganization. You would have no control of your thought processes, as you assume your thought processes are strictly a result of the relatively balanced networks that existed before your demise.

That educated, reasoned and rational brain you assume you possess now that is reading this will be the first thing to go.

You talk big now. If consciousnes and existence is strictly material based as you profess, then you will have a very rough time. Your poor little consciousness shrieking in terror because you lost control. But no one will hear you scream. Your body shut down and means of expression terminated.

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May 4, 2013
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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You had me worried, dude.
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images...

What? You worried?

I find that hard to believe.

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie nce/2013/04/consciousness-afte r-death
Interesting article.
A Topix atheist takes his last breath. Ah..it is time for the big sleep.
Except he isn't sleepy.
Laying there in darkness and total isolation from the physical world outside for that sleep to come.
All the while neural circuits are disintegrating in his body and his mind, which of course includes his consciousness. Which is on its way to extinction.
Chemical decompostion. Random neuron firings. That lovely balanced brain they had, when alive, is now breaking down randomly. Would be nice if the terror circuits get broke before the higher intellect does.
Being just a product of meat, their consciousness WAS comprised of input signals from everywhere on their body working on that core of the brain circuitry. Flashes of what would have been pain injecting spurious signals within it. No more balance and self control. Scatterbrained.
Waiting.
Waiting.
A never ending nightmare.
It would never occur to evolution to provide you with a self thrown switch to ease your death.
And straight back at you!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are missimng the point that if the consicousness is a captive of the material, as you profess, then the chemical decomposition would result in ever increasing random firings of neurons and disorganization. You would have no control of your thought processes, as you assume your thought processes are strictly a result of the relatively balanced networks that existed before your demise.
That educated, reasoned and rational brain you assume you possess now that is reading this will be the first thing to go.
You talk big now. If consciousnes and existence is strictly material based as you profess, then you will have a very rough time. Your poor little consciousness shrieking in terror because you lost control. But no one will hear you scream. Your body shut down and means of expression terminated.
No not really Dave , it is like a machine that in death will decompose, if that process is slowed down, and the machine repaired . It can function again with minimal memory loss and brain damage. It only shows that everything you are in contained in those neural tissues and networks that cooling and oxygenating can save them from degrading .(at least for several hours)
But when those tissues degrade and decompose everything you are is lost.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are missimng the point that if the consicousness is a captive of the material, as you profess, then the chemical decomposition would result in ever increasing random firings of neurons and disorganization. You would have no control of your thought processes, as you assume your thought processes are strictly a result of the relatively balanced networks that existed before your demise.
That educated, reasoned and rational brain you assume you possess now that is reading this will be the first thing to go.
You talk big now. If consciousnes and existence is strictly material based as you profess, then you will have a very rough time. Your poor little consciousness shrieking in terror because you lost control. But no one will hear you scream. Your body shut down and means of expression terminated.
If your brain is randomly firing neurons what makes you think you would have the ability percieve anything? Much less your conciousnes?

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I still think Atheists still needs faith in what they believe in. Whatever that is. But they should be open to other people's opinions and welcome change once their beliefs has been proven wrong.

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May 4, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You are missimng the point that if the consicousness is a captive of the material, as you profess, then the chemical decomposition would result in ever increasing random firings of neurons and disorganization. You would have no control of your thought processes, as you assume your thought processes are strictly a result of the relatively balanced networks that existed before your demise.
That educated, reasoned and rational brain you assume you possess now that is reading this will be the first thing to go.
You talk big now. If consciousnes and existence is strictly material based as you profess, then you will have a very rough time. Your poor little consciousness shrieking in terror because you lost control. But no one will hear you scream. Your body shut down and means of expression terminated.
This was actually discovered when a few people drowned in freezing water ,and then revived after longer periods than considered possible without severe brain damage. Their recovery without the brain damage anticipated , has led medical science into ways of expanding on this fact that revival time without brain damage can be extended with new techniques.

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