Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#164780 May 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Only idiots require proof for a negative. Most fictional characters are so, due to lack of evidence, Jesus is no different. I do get awfully tired of schooling you......but since you have regressed fro your last lesson in logic.....here:
1.) I believe God is real and answers prayers and performs miracles.......a POSITIVE CLAIM...(evidence required)
2.) Due to the overwhelming lack of evidence I have a LACK of belief........a NEGATIVE STANCE.....NOT a claim........(no evidence required.)
Schools out, now back to your delusions about imaginary being touching you on the head!!!!!!
Schools out?

O_o

But your second example there is incomplete.....

'What' is it you have lack of belief in?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#164781 May 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
'What' is it you have lack of belief in?
I lack belief in the supernatural: ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, I don't believe in it.

Any other questions?
Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#164782 May 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I lack belief in the supernatural: ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, I don't believe in it.
Any other questions?
So your beliefs do not include ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, You don't believe in it.

That leaves you with what then?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#164783 May 1, 2013
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>
You can try to use that to hide from the God argument, but what evidence do you have to support your Epistemology?
"Evidence" is ONLY needed when making a positive claim. I have a stance, a position, I make NO claim, I don't need evidence unless I CLAIM something to be true. And I certainly am NOT trying to hide form the God argument. There really is NO argument, either something exists or it doesn't. Things that exist are accompanied by evidence, no such evidence exists for God.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#164784 May 1, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Schools out?
O_o
But your second example there is incomplete.....
'What' is it you have lack of belief in?
Back in session........You tell me a story, it might even have parts that are believable, parts that could very well be true because they use reality based events, I simply choose to NOT believe the story. There is nothing about GOD that is even vaguely close to reality, NOTHING. I can make no connection between this God thing and reality, I have no basis for any kind of belief, I therefore have a complete and utter lack of belief based on my experience with reality. God is like a raggillioterrll..........It means absolutely nothing, so just as I have a lack of belief for a raggilioteerll, I have the same lack for God. Now school is out!!!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#164785 May 1, 2013
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>
So your beliefs do not include ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, You don't believe in it.
That leaves you with what then?
It leaves him with all things that are REAL....What a stupid question!!!!!

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#164786 May 1, 2013
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>
So your beliefs do not include ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, You don't believe in it.
That leaves you with what then?
It leaves me with the natural world: The mountains, rivers, oceans, forests filled with trees and flowers, animals, my fellow human beings, literature, airplanes and ships for travel, laughter, so many things, all part of our natural world.

I have no need to make up skydaddys, waste my time on voodoo, the occult, superstition, specters and spooks, or disembodied spirits.

BOO!

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#164787 May 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I lack belief in the supernatural: ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, I don't believe in it.
Any other questions?
I believe in supernatural sex, I swear I felt it before. he he heh

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#164788 May 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It leaves me with the natural world: The mountains, rivers, oceans, forests filled with trees and flowers, animals, my fellow human beings, literature, airplanes and ships for travel, laughter, so many things, all part of our natural world.
I have no need to make up skydaddys, waste my time on voodoo, the occult, superstition, specters and spooks, or disembodied spirits.
BOO!
YaY for IRL!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164789 May 1, 2013
So you didn't compare but you did compare....

Gotcha

Smh
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>See? You didn't understand.

I never compared emotions to God.

I compared the impossibility of proving either - especially on a forum like this.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164790 May 1, 2013
I do no believe in god, I reject the theory's poorly crafted assertion.

Until we have observable proof that god is indeed real it is logical to assume he is the by product of ancient people's attempt to explain what they didn't understand.

Sorry I know you have been programmed to bleat your assertion free of any corroborating evidence and then wail for others to prove it wrong. But in the real world that doesn't work.

Provide proof for your assertion or people of reason have no cause to believe.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, scooter.

Unless you think you can prove God is a "work of fiction"......

You've been trying and trying and trying.

And getting nowhere.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164791 May 1, 2013
I have already demonstrated much half wit. You are seriously claiming in ancient times the message of Jesus was not proselytized?

Time for you to once back up your assertion. Show this to be true.

Go.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>STOP. Hold on....

You're gonna hafta demonstrate that they did, in 'ancient times', stand on the streets, tell others stories, told stories dramatically,'meant' to entertain, and acted dramas.

Then you're gonna hafta demonstrate that did in fact spread the word of Jesus.

Go.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164792 May 1, 2013
I own Q squared, and just about all of his books. Peter David is an awesome writer.

The dune buggy scene was lame. Why use a dune buggy which is open to danger when you have a perfectly good shuttle with phasers to use? Because they thought it would look cool?

Okay that's fine but at least have there be a reason to use the damn thing!

I never understood why in the movies Captain Picard becomes this violent blood thirsty guy when in the show he is so intelligent and reasoning.

Look at power play, there are a dozen times he and others could have resorted to violence to end the stand off quickly. Instead they used reason and patience and saves everyone without loss of life.

First contact? He kills a crew member while transforming into a Borg even though he states before that you can go back as he himself did. The show Picard would never do such a thing.

Fck you Rick Berman!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>My favorite part was when Q gave Data the gift of laughter. But when Geordi chimed in, I was like "WTF Geordi! Let him laugh!"

I thought the dune buggy was cool. You know that scene was filmed not far from me? It's strange that most aliens worlds have a strong resemblance to Southern California....

There's a great Q book from Peter David called "Q Squared", you should check it out.

There's also a book trilogy centered around Q.

Q-Space, Q-Zone, Q-Strike. They're on amazon and only a few bucks each, actually I recently bought them for .01 cents.....

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164793 May 1, 2013
I guess they will need to record it the next time god calls.

How do you come to grips that god before came down to make commandments about blended fibers and shrimp... But not thousands of different variations of his so called religion and all the death and destruction because of those in fighting?

Sorry it doesn't make much sense.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>That's an interesting story, it really is.

But it's just your opinion. God speaks toe and billions of other people.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164794 May 1, 2013
Reality
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>So your beliefs do not include ghosts, witches, gods, fairies, angels, hexes, astrology, step-on-crack-break-mother's-b ack, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, magic, you name it. If it's supernatural, You don't believe in it.

That leaves you with what then?
Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#164796 May 1, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Reality
<quoted text>
Whose reality?
Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#164797 May 1, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"Evidence" is ONLY needed when making a positive claim. I have a stance, a position, I make NO claim, I don't need evidence unless I CLAIM something to be true. And I certainly am NOT trying to hide form the God argument. There really is NO argument, either something exists or it doesn't. Things that exist are accompanied by evidence, no such evidence exists for God.
Do you believe Laws of Logic exist?
Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#164798 May 1, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It leaves me with the natural world: The mountains, rivers, oceans, forests filled with trees and flowers, animals, my fellow human beings, literature, airplanes and ships for travel, laughter, so many things, all part of our natural world.
I have no need to make up skydaddys, waste my time on voodoo, the occult, superstition, specters and spooks, or disembodied spirits.
BOO!
but what evidence do you have to support your Epistemology?

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#164799 May 1, 2013
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>
but what evidence do you have to support your Epistemology?
Plenty.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#164800 May 1, 2013
Observable verifiable reality not the delusions of the mentally ill.
Expert in all things wrote:
<quoted text>Whose reality?

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