Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164452 Apr 28, 2013
Very mysterious indeed! I find it funny that the Christians on here are so intolerant that they think atheists shouldn't post on an atheism forum!

Lol!
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>Why is an Atheist on a public forum about Atheists? Hmmm, that is a head scratcher!
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164453 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
It gives dates from jesus on back to the six day creation. A little research and math is all it takes.
The universe is what approximately 13.75 billion years old, the Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. Kind beat that whole 6 day thing all to hell.
I know that is what you are saying, but you claimed the Bible stated it.

I have done my research, now stop dodging and tell us where in the scripture does it stated the age of the earth.

This is a fallacy that you have fell for and never had to back up your BS.

You have been exposed by the Expert in all Things.

Since: Jul 10

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#164454 Apr 28, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
Would it be a rational position, in your view, to think the Pyramids are the result of random weather patterns?
No.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164455 Apr 28, 2013
He did as well as the fiction writer had him do.

Again half wit you can't assign attributes and feats to a god until you prove there is even a god there.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Did God fail math?

Not according to the complex programming code of DNA...
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164456 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Saying that we do not know what is not yet known is not assuming anything.
That was a very good try though!
Oh, so you are admitting you don't chit!!! So why should we listen to someone who lacks so much knowledge?

Wait, let me guess your default answer, I don't know.

Did I get that about right? Yep.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164458 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Start with Genesis 1 and work your way forward.
Oh.

You're assuming the 6 days of creation was an actual 144 hours.

I didn't know you were a creationist.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164459 Apr 28, 2013
Yawn you can accept scientific observable data or deny it and make yourself look like an ignorant jackass.

No laws attempting to rule over people's lives are being created because of black holes.

Care to fail again?
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Kindly show us your proof that the earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. Show us your evidence, your observations, your conducted studies and your basis for measuring time. Please do not use light years, because then you will prove to me that you are unlearned and simply a rote repetition poster. It has been proven that if black holes exist then time and space within them or passing through them would not exist. So, how do you measure how old something is? The rate of time acceleration varies throughout space, which is a major flaw in the Hubble "theory".

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

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#164460 Apr 28, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
You sure know a lot that isn't true.
Here is a simple challenge that destroys your credibility by pointing out your false assumptions.
Please identify where in scripture does it state the age of the earth?
HINT: the answer is "it doesn't" now go take your nap, junior.
It was you experts in all things that pointed it out by using the bible how old Earth is.
The simple challenge that destroys YOUR credibility.

Since: Jul 10

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#164461 Apr 28, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems to me that you are assuming that nothing exist beyond the natural, and then are proselytizing...
Perhaps you are confusing someone who says that he has no belief in a god for which no evidence has ever existed is also a person who is prosytizing aobut some belief. I don't believe. If I am given something which I can see some evidence of them I might believe. If the evidence is proven then I would have no choice because I owuld then know rather than believe.

I have not been pushing the scientific theories on Topix, though I may have mentioned some things which science has proved, one of which is evolution. We do not have all of the steps or even a first step, which I doubt there is a first step, in evolution but man has proved that evolution occurs and has occurred.

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

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#164463 Apr 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Did God fail math?
Not according to the complex programming code of DNA...
You can imagine that, if you like.
But it is not a code.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164464 Apr 28, 2013
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a little helper:
http://www.google.com/imgres...
A discussion forum?

Hardcore evidence, man!

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#164465 Apr 28, 2013
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Kindly show us your proof that the earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. Show us your evidence, your observations, your conducted studies and your basis for measuring time. Please do not use light years, because then you will prove to me that you are unlearned and simply a rote repetition poster. It has been proven that if black holes exist then time and space within them or passing through them would not exist. So, how do you measure how old something is? The rate of time acceleration varies throughout space, which is a major flaw in the Hubble "theory".
I'll play your game! Just as you do.

I asked you first to show your evidence for your god.

Show us how knowledgeable you are.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164466 Apr 28, 2013
We have writings from early second century mentioning Catholics.

Care to fail again?
TRUTHS BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>That is simply a lie. The rebellion was after the fact. The RCC did not come into existence until 380-450 AD, at least 340-410 years after Christ. The first Christians were Jews who had this 340-450 year start on the pagan catholic church. These Jews who became Christians had their religion from the first tablet and law which Moses gave to them. The papacy is no more and no less than the pagan church that reigned in Rome with the Romans when they killed Christ. You can not say much it seems with much knowledge. It is apparent that you are too lazy to conduct a search and study.

I am not a Catholic and do not support them, but your statement is like saying that it would be best if all gays resigned with the latest gay to die of AIDS. As much as I am opposed to the Catholic doctrine they have more right to exist than gays do. By sheer numbers you lose in that argument.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164467 Apr 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He did as well as the fiction writer had him do.
Again half wit you can't assign attributes and feats to a god until you prove there is even a god there.
<quoted text>
Why not? You are.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164468 Apr 28, 2013
Would it be a rational position, in your view, to think the Pyramids are the result of random weather patterns?
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
On what basis do you come to that conclusion?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164469 Apr 28, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
Would it be a rational position, in your view, to think the Pyramids are the result of random weather patterns?
boooots wrote:
No.
Then why assume that life is the result of random patterns?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164471 Apr 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
You can imagine that, if you like.
But it is not a code.
Oh, excuse me. A 'genetic' code.

Or 'generic' in GML's case....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#164472 Apr 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
We have writings from early second century mentioning Catholics.
Tarzan say you not talk good.

Tarzan say you need help.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#164473 Apr 28, 2013
The 6 day creation and resting on the 7th is an myth coinciding with the Jewish sabbath or day off for god lol! It's a poetic account linking Yahweh to man showing that indeed god was made in man's image.

Why do you limit your god? Are you saying he could not have done it in 6 actual days?

In no ancient translation of genesis does it even hint at anything more than 6 actual days. Not does any ancient documented debate state that it was anything other than 6 actual days with one day to rest. The poetic myth gives a charming wannabe comparison and the cycle of how things went in those days.

In ancient days such poetic license was approved and appreciated.

But in modern days poetry just doesn't cut it when people are trying to use the ancient bible myths to rule over others yes?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Oh.

You're assuming the 6 days of creation was an actual 144 hours.

I didn't know you were a creationist.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#164474 Apr 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
You can imagine that, if you like.
But it is not a code.
DNA’s definition as a literal code (and not a figurative one) is nearly universal in the entire body of biological literature since the 1960&#8242;s.

The book Information Theory, Evolution and the Origin of Life is written by Hubert Yockey, the foremost living specialist in bioinformatics. The publisher is Cambridge University press. Yockey rigorously demonstrates that the coding process in DNA is identical to the coding process and mathematical definitions used in Electrical Engineering. This is not subjective, it is not debatable or even controversial. It is a brute fact!

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