Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

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Apr 22, 2013
 
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, curved space can be mind-bending at first. Also, the idea of a curved space that is not embedded in anything larger can be difficult for people to imagine.

Here's an analogy that I like:

Imagine space to be two dimensional rather than three. Furthermore, imagine it to be curved like a sphere. Now have the radius of that sphere represent *time*. So later times are larger spheres. Now, three dimensional space represents spacetime.

One thing I like about this analogy is that it makes the singular nature of the Big Bang easier to understand. The point of the Big Bang in the analogy is simply the common center of all the spheres. Notice that there is no 'center of expansion' that is actually on any of the spheres. Instead, it is a point in the past for all of them. Also, there is no 'negative radius' in exactly the same way that there is no 'before the Big Bang' in the classical model. This model is actually very similar (one dimension down) to the actual model of an expanding universe with positive spatial curvature in the classic Big Bang model.
Nice.

I like it.

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#163899
Apr 22, 2013
 
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>I find it dishonest when anyone dismisses an argument without providing an alternate view.

Condemnation before investigation.
An alternate view could be as simple as "We don't know."
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#163901
Apr 22, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Of course I am.
But it's to be expected of terrorist Muslims - they worship the wrong god and the wrong book.
Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.
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Apr 22, 2013
 

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An alternate view could be as simple as "We don't know."
That is not view, just the position of a coward.

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#163903
Apr 22, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
So you are a polytheist.
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Nope. Monotheist.

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#163904
Apr 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
I didn't?
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No, you didn't. You wrote:

"Givemeliberty wrote:
So we see as predicted the terrorists in Boston were theists, Islamic terrorists killing in the name of the god of Abraham."

Then I asked you to;

Provide evidence that:
It was predicted.
They were theists.
They were Islamic.
They were terrorists.
That they killed in the name if their god.

Then you ranted and lied and said that I aid the terrorists weren't muslim....

You avoided it. Well done.

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#163905
Apr 22, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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How do you know?
They are as firm in their beliefs as you are on yours.
And they "know" in exactly the same way that you "know".
Another baseless atheist claim?

Unless you think you can provide evidence that they are as firm in their beliefs as I am mine.

Or what they "know" compared to what I "know".

Go ahead. Provide evidence...

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#163906
Apr 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Honestly what with all the contradictions in the bible I find it laughable anyone would think it was a book inspired by some higher being.
Contradictions going all the way back to genesis 1:1
Because GLM thinks so and evilbible.com agrees?

HA!

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#163907
Apr 22, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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Good.
I hope we meet someday.
Um ok.

....but I'm the "top".

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#163908
Apr 22, 2013
 
Anon wrote:
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Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.
Another baseless, unfounded atheist claim?

Gee whiz you guys are on a roll today!
Anon

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Apr 22, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Another baseless, unfounded atheist claim?
Gee whiz you guys are on a roll today!
So you're saying Muslims don't communicate with Allah? Are you saying Muslims don't feel they've been touched by Allah? Is that what you're saying?

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Apr 22, 2013
 
Because the bible says so evilbible.com not needed chump.

The bible contradicts itself going all the way back to genesis 1:1 :)
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Because GLM thinks so and evilbible.com agrees?

HA!

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#163912
Apr 22, 2013
 
Are you now saying Muslims are not theists?

Wow.... You are one stupid moron. Thanks for dancing for our amusement lmfao!!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>No, you didn't. You wrote:

"Givemeliberty wrote:
So we see as predicted the terrorists in Boston were theists, Islamic terrorists killing in the name of the god of Abraham."

Then I asked you to;

Provide evidence that:
It was predicted.
They were theists.
They were Islamic.
They were terrorists.
That they killed in the name if their god.

Then you ranted and lied and said that I aid the terrorists weren't muslim....

You avoided it. Well done.
Expert in all Things

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Because the bible says so evilbible.com not needed chump.
The bible contradicts itself going all the way back to genesis 1:1 :)
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Sure it does...
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#163914
Apr 22, 2013
 
So you worship the same god as the muslims.
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Nope. Monotheist.

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#163915
Apr 22, 2013
 
Sorry, just LMFAO and spiking the football.... Again.:)

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/who-is-...

Clearly as I stated.

Theist? Check BIG TIME!
Islamic? Check!
Terrorists? Check!

:knowing smile:

You may return to work now ditch digger. LMFAO!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Um.... No, scooter.
Here's your post:
"Givemeliberty wrote:
So we see as predicted the terrorists in Boston were theists, Islamic terrorists killing in the name of the god of Abraham."
So.
Provide evidence that:
It was predicted.
They were theists.
They were Islamic.
They were terrorists.

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Apr 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Are you now saying Muslims are not theists?
Wow.... You are one stupid moron. Thanks for dancing for our amusement lmfao!!
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So you can't provide evidence for anything that you posted? Anything?

I never said that Muslims aren't theists, we weren't talking about Muslims in general we were talking about the terrorists in Boston.

Try to keep up.

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Apr 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Because the bible says so evilbible.com not needed chump.
The bible contradicts itself going all the way back to genesis 1:1 :)
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What is it that you say about a claim without evidence?

Sure, pal. Sure.

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#163918
Apr 22, 2013
 
Anon wrote:
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So you're saying Muslims don't communicate with Allah? Are you saying Muslims don't feel they've been touched by Allah? Is that what you're saying?
Nope, I'm not saying that at all. You made two very distinct, very exact claims.

Anon wrote:
Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.

Those claims are baseless, unless you think you can provide evidence to support them.

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#163919
Apr 22, 2013
 
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>That is not view, just the position of a coward.
It's called intellectual integrity.

Something you are completely lacking in.

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