Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#163885 Apr 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
He must live a self deluded bubble. The fact that those brothers were Islamic extremist is all over including their VK page and twitter! Not to mention all the sites and YouTube videos and connections to an Islamic extremist cell which the Feds are currently hunting down.
You just gotta laugh at his ignorance.
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All I asked is for you to prove your assertion, which you never did.

What should I expect though, from a lying atheist like you...?

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#163886 Apr 22, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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It's your hallucination, if you don't care about atheists, why are you even here in this forum?
Simple amusement.

Continue...

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#163887 Apr 22, 2013
Libertarian wrote:
Atheism reqiures no faith whatsoever.
do you even know what atheism is?
We may trust science but we have absolutely no need for faith.
Faith = belief without proof
We have proof of our beliefs(called evidence) so we don't faith.
The things that require faith we don't believe.
If you have proof of your god then you too will no longer have or need faith.
We don't believe there is no God as you cannot prove a negative. We simply lack the faith you have that one exists.
Please educate yourselves (on something other than your bible- although some could do with that too) before attacking others, your god wouldnt like that would he?
An education would be nice for you, as you don't even know what the word 'faith' means.

Faith isn't just religious faith, as you've claimed.

Faith is ALSO complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

I know atheists fear that word, but oh well.

“Think&Care”

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#163889 Apr 22, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
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I find that confusing, too, but then I don't even pretend to understand four-dimensional structures.
Yes, curved space can be mind-bending at first. Also, the idea of a curved space that is not embedded in anything larger can be difficult for people to imagine.

Here's an analogy that I like:

Imagine space to be two dimensional rather than three. Furthermore, imagine it to be curved like a sphere. Now have the radius of that sphere represent *time*. So later times are larger spheres. Now, three dimensional space represents spacetime.

One thing I like about this analogy is that it makes the singular nature of the Big Bang easier to understand. The point of the Big Bang in the analogy is simply the common center of all the spheres. Notice that there is no 'center of expansion' that is actually on any of the spheres. Instead, it is a point in the past for all of them. Also, there is no 'negative radius' in exactly the same way that there is no 'before the Big Bang' in the classical model. This model is actually very similar (one dimension down) to the actual model of an expanding universe with positive spatial curvature in the classic Big Bang model.
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#163891 Apr 22, 2013
So you are a polytheist.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Of course I am.
But it's to be expected of terrorist Muslims - they worship the wrong god and the wrong book.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163892 Apr 22, 2013
I didn't?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>All I asked is for you to prove your assertion, which you never did.

What should I expect though, from a lying atheist like you...?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163893 Apr 22, 2013
Indeed he would be after that statement.
Thinking wrote:
<quoted text>So you are a polytheist.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#163894 Apr 22, 2013
Honestly what with all the contradictions in the bible I find it laughable anyone would think it was a book inspired by some higher being.

Contradictions going all the way back to genesis 1:1
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163895 Apr 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Honestly what with all the contradictions in the bible I find it laughable anyone would think it was a book inspired by some higher being.
Contradictions going all the way back to genesis 1:1
I find it dishonest when anyone dismisses an argument without providing an alternate view.

Condemnation before investigation.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163896 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You need hands to do that.

And since you've provided no observable evidence that you have hands, I'm gonna go ahead and assume you don't have any.
Good.

I hope we meet someday.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163897 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I am.

But it's to be expected of terrorist Muslims - they worship the wrong god and the wrong book.
How do you know?

They are as firm in their beliefs as you are on yours.

And they "know" in exactly the same way that you "know".

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163898 Apr 22, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, curved space can be mind-bending at first. Also, the idea of a curved space that is not embedded in anything larger can be difficult for people to imagine.

Here's an analogy that I like:

Imagine space to be two dimensional rather than three. Furthermore, imagine it to be curved like a sphere. Now have the radius of that sphere represent *time*. So later times are larger spheres. Now, three dimensional space represents spacetime.

One thing I like about this analogy is that it makes the singular nature of the Big Bang easier to understand. The point of the Big Bang in the analogy is simply the common center of all the spheres. Notice that there is no 'center of expansion' that is actually on any of the spheres. Instead, it is a point in the past for all of them. Also, there is no 'negative radius' in exactly the same way that there is no 'before the Big Bang' in the classical model. This model is actually very similar (one dimension down) to the actual model of an expanding universe with positive spatial curvature in the classic Big Bang model.
Nice.

I like it.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163899 Apr 22, 2013
Expert in all Things wrote:
<quoted text>I find it dishonest when anyone dismisses an argument without providing an alternate view.

Condemnation before investigation.
An alternate view could be as simple as "We don't know."
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#163901 Apr 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Of course I am.
But it's to be expected of terrorist Muslims - they worship the wrong god and the wrong book.
Allah touches their heads also. You don't have a monopoly on deity groping.
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163902 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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An alternate view could be as simple as "We don't know."
That is not view, just the position of a coward.

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#163903 Apr 22, 2013
Thinking wrote:
So you are a polytheist.
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Nope. Monotheist.

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#163904 Apr 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I didn't?
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No, you didn't. You wrote:

"Givemeliberty wrote:
So we see as predicted the terrorists in Boston were theists, Islamic terrorists killing in the name of the god of Abraham."

Then I asked you to;

Provide evidence that:
It was predicted.
They were theists.
They were Islamic.
They were terrorists.
That they killed in the name if their god.

Then you ranted and lied and said that I aid the terrorists weren't muslim....

You avoided it. Well done.

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#163905 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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How do you know?
They are as firm in their beliefs as you are on yours.
And they "know" in exactly the same way that you "know".
Another baseless atheist claim?

Unless you think you can provide evidence that they are as firm in their beliefs as I am mine.

Or what they "know" compared to what I "know".

Go ahead. Provide evidence...

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#163906 Apr 22, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Honestly what with all the contradictions in the bible I find it laughable anyone would think it was a book inspired by some higher being.
Contradictions going all the way back to genesis 1:1
Because GLM thinks so and evilbible.com agrees?

HA!

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#163907 Apr 22, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Good.
I hope we meet someday.
Um ok.

....but I'm the "top".

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