Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Says the liar with no proof of atheism.
Proof of atheism?

Have you gone mad?
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May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.
Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.
After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.

Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing

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Lincoln wrote:
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
Right, another words everything it say's......means something else.
That's what we thought because..... none of you make any sense!

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Of course. Have you?
Immanuel, Emmanuel or Imanu'el is a Hebrew phrase meaning "God is with us", it's not a name.
It's a symbolic name only.
Why do atheists pretend to know do much about a bible and a god they claim to not believe in?
Oh, i see.

That's another one of those squirrely bits where the bible doesn't mean what it clearly says, it means what your preacher says it means.

Gottit.

Even if I accept THAT, what of geneaology? The day-and-a-half dirt nap? The wildly differing accounts of his life and death, by supposed eyewitnesses?
More allegory, misinterpretation and symbolism?

Don't bother to answer. I've read the thing.
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Which is what separates us from most believers.
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<quoted text>I've read the thing.

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Thinking wrote:
Which is what separates us from most believers.
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*sigh*

Yes.
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Apr 16, 2013
 
Always scan the small print.

:)
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<quoted text>*sigh*
Yes.

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Apr 16, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
Always scan the small print.
:)
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All it takes is reading the thing _de novo_. Without interpretations, interpolations, or people who are trying to sell something.
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Apr 16, 2013
 
Look out for over politeness too... spider sense is tingling. Snake oil for sale.
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<quoted text>All it takes is reading the thing _de novo_. Without interpretations, interpolations, or people who are trying to sell something.

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Lincoln wrote:
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Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
Givemeliberty, as a fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
1. Givemeliberty is not a fundamentalist.
2. You have no proof of god and are a failed troll.
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“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”
Albert Einstein,
The World as I See It
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From Yahoo answers:

Keep in mind, Einstein didn't believe in any kind of a personal god that answers prayers or does miracles or actually does *anything* in the universe...this quote is more than likely poking fun at people who claim coincidences are "miracles."
Lincoln wrote:
“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”
Albert Einstein,
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Thinking wrote:
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Keep in mind, Einstein didn't believe in any kind of a personal god that answers prayers or does miracles or actually does *anything* in the universe...this quote is more than likely poking fun at people who claim coincidences are "miracles."
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Thanks
People in their journey through life often vary their beliefs from time to time.
Doubt if arguments of metaphysics have winners.

Good Article in Sunday New York Times, April 7th on Dialogue between believers and non believers.
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Givemeliberty wrote:
May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.
Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.
After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
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OT is exclusively a Jewish book the - Pentateuch
NT is a rewrite, modify of the OT - Bible

Both are pure mythology.

There is no papyrus, no Dead Sea scroll no written Egyptian or Roman or Greek history that recognizes Moses or Jesus ever existed or walked on the face of the earth.

For this tale one must consult either OT or the NT

Apologists have always been necessary to explain the nonsense contained within these.

Not only is the Bible the most popular selling book world is also the least read!
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Imhotep wrote:
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OT is exclusively a Jewish book the - Pentateuch
NT is a rewrite, modify of the OT - Bible
Both are pure mythology.
There is no papyrus, no Dead Sea scroll no written Egyptian or Roman or Greek history that recognizes Moses or Jesus ever existed or walked on the face of the earth.
For this tale one must consult either OT or the NT
Apologists have always been necessary to explain the nonsense contained within these.
Not only is the Bible the most popular selling book world is also the least read!
Usual atheist generalizations.
Apologists for atheism try to take the Bible literally which make them fundamentalists in a way.
Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
as an atheist fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing

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Lincoln wrote:
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Usual atheist generalizations.
Apologists for atheism try to take the Bible literally which make them fundamentalists in a way.
Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
as an atheist fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
You have no proof of god, and you misquoted Einstein who was an atheist.

You're a sack of lying creationist sh*t converting nobody and embarrassing yourself day after day.

I give you another month before Topix bans your sorry a$$ for spam
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Lincoln wrote:
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Usual atheist generalizations.
Apologists for atheism try to take the Bible literally which make them fundamentalists in a way.
Fundamentalists take the Bible literally have not read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why"
by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina.
as an atheist fundamentalist you may observe that words change meaning from time to time, like 3000 years.
Then the problem of translation....
Fundamentalists reading English translation of the Bible and then preaching as you do, may be found to be amusing
If you want amusement and fact I suggest you visit this site

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

Atheists don't need apologist clerics or any pseudo-Xtians who claim to know the unknowable to explain a fairytale.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Of course. Have you?

Immanuel, Emmanuel or Imanu'el is a Hebrew phrase meaning "God is with us", it's not a name.

It's a symbolic name only.

Why do atheists pretend to know do much about a bible and a god they claim to not believe in?
Because we've read it without god goggles.

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<quoted text>Proof of atheism?

Have you gone mad?
Lol!
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Givemeliberty wrote:
May I suggest you read the bible cover to cover with no apologetic help? Often Christholes like to start at the end of the myth and work backwards.
Start at the Old Testament and note clearly all the messianic prophecies as stated not the apologetic excuse for them. After that work your way into the New Testament and see how well they match up.
After you get a hearty laugh there enjoy all the contradictions between the gospels. Separating the actual letters of Paul vs forgeries can come later :)
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Good advice and summation. The Bible is a mess of contradictions, mythology, errors and absurdity. Obvious to anyone outside of that particular bubble of delusion.

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