Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Mary Magdalena

United States

#163415 Apr 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Creationist troll out of steam.
You've got it all wrong.

Christians have clouds
Atheist will be where the steam is.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#163416 Apr 12, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
Creationist troll out of steam.
Throw another atheist on the fire.
Mary Magdalena

United States

#163417 Apr 12, 2013
urmommaspellofrut wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler a Christian but he turning away from the war mongering religion just like America is doing right know.
"Where did Darwin's ideas lead?

Enthused with his new theory, it's doubtful that Charles Darwin gave much thought to the possible moral consequences of what he was writing. He certainly could not have foreseen that less than 75 years later, his ideas would lead to Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust, the Nazi attempt at exterminating the Jews. But Professor Weikart's detailed book documents the connection, with plenty of quotes from mostly German philosophers and scientists in the intervening years.
Dr. Richard Evans, professor of modern history at the University of Cambridge and author of The Coming of the Third Reich, says that Weikart's book "shows in sober and convincing detail how Darwinist thinkers in Germany had developed an amoral attitude to human society by the time of the First World War, in which the supposed good of the race was applied as the sole criterion of public policy and 'racial hygiene.'
"Without over-simplifying the lines that connected this body of thought to Hitler, he demonstrates with chilling clarity how policies such as infanticide, assisted suicide, marriage prohibitions, and much else were being proposed for those considered racially or eugenically inferior by a variety of Darwinist writers and scientists, providing Hitler and the Nazis with a scientific justification for the policies they pursued ..." ( From Darwin to Hitler, back cover)"

http://www.ucg.org/news-and-prophecy/how-darw...
Mary Magdalena

United States

#163418 Apr 12, 2013
urmommaspellofrut wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler a Christian but he turning away from the war mongering religion just like America is doing right know.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v...

"Leading Nazis, and early 1900 influential German biologists, revealed in their writings that Darwin’s theory and publications had a major influence upon Nazi race policies. Hitler believed that the human gene pool could be improved by using selective breeding similar to how farmers breed superior cattle strains. In the formulation of their racial policies, Hitler’s government relied heavily upon Darwinism, especially the elaborations by Spencer and Haeckel. As a result, a central policy of Hitler’s administration was the development and implementation of policies designed to protect the ‘superior race’. This required at the very least preventing the ‘inferior races’ from mixing with those judged superior, in order to reduce contamination of the latter’s gene pool. The ‘superior race’ belief was based on the theory of group inequality within each species, a major presumption and requirement of Darwin’s original ‘survival of the fittest’ theory. This philosophy culminated in the ‘final solution’, the extermination of approximately six million Jews and four million other people who belonged to what German scientists judged as ‘inferior races’."
Mary Magdalena

United States

#163419 Apr 12, 2013
urmommaspellofrut wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler a Christian but he turning away from the war mongering religion just like America is doing right know.
Do you believe this?
What a sucker! You would believe anything Hitler said! Yes Hitler called himself a Christian. You believe him!
Why would he lie? You need to learn what a Christian is. Hitler was no Christian.

"Hitler was not a Christain or a Christian. as for Hitler, you will get the same answer any and every time in one form or another any time you want to say Hitler was a Christian. This is not open to dispute, since Hitler was not a Christian.

Was Hitler a Christian?

October 30, 1999

Dear Straight Dope:

In my numerous online debates in various chatrooms, I have learned the following: many Christians seem to think that Adolf Hitler was an atheist (or at least wasn't "Christian"). Of course I and my fellow atheists know better, as Hitler mentions his devotion to Christianity numerous times in his writings. Can you clear this up for me? Was Hitler an "honest to God" Christian, or was he simply using religion as a means of control?- Carl Stieger

The short answer is a definite "maybe" or, more precisely, "probably neither." The looooong answer is somewhat more complicated.

You are right that Hitler did mention Christianity many times in his writings. He paid Christianity a lot of lip service in Mein Kampf, and he claimed to be a Christian. But Hitler's secretary, Martin Bormann, also declared that "National Socialism [Nazism] and Christianity are irreconcilable" and Hitler didn't squawk too much about it. Similarly, Hermann Rauschning, a Hitler associate, said, "One is either a Christian or a German. You can't be both." In addition, Hitler declared Nazism the state religion and the Bible was replaced by Mein Kampf in the schools.

First, let's look at what he said that seems to put him on the anti-Christian side:

According to a press release from Catholic League President, William A. Donohue (2/4/99): "Hitler was a neo-pagan terrorist whose conscience was not informed by Christianity, but by pseudo-scientific racist philosophies. Hitler hated the Catholic Church, made plans to kill the Pope, authorized the murder of thousands of priests and nuns, and did everything he could to suppress the influence of the Church. In 1933, Hitler said,'It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and blood.'"

[further down, within the text:]

“... atheists looking for a quick cheap-shot may claim Hitler was a Christian; similarly, Christians looking for a quick shot may claim he was an atheist. Know what? Hitler was a vegetarian! Oooh, those evil vegetarians! He also recommended that parents give their children milk to drink instead of beer and started the first anti-smoking campaign.(So by the "reasoning" used in these types of arguments, if you are truly anti-Hitler, you should smoke heavily and only give your baby beer!) Better watch out, though he was an oxygen-breather, too! In other words, does it really matter whether Hitler was an atheist or a Christian or whatever? Just because somebody may hold a particular worldview (along with other views) doesn't make him a spokesman for that view, or even remotely representative of others who hold that view.”"

continued:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699...
Mary Magdalena

United States

#163420 Apr 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
<quoted text>Your tall tales are amusing. Did you also dig the Grand Canyon with your trusty Ox Blue?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!!
Did I hear a monkey talking about the Grand Canyon?

http://www.grandcanyontreks.org/geology2.htm

"Inevitably, some of these visitors will turn to a park ranger and ask: "How did the Grand Canyon get formed? Why did this happen here and nowhere else?"

The honest answer is that nobody knows. One hundred and thirty-one years after John Wesley Powell first mapped the Colorado River by riding its 161 rapids in heavy wooden boats, no one can prove how the canyon was formed.

But it is not for lack of trying.

Geologists are puzzle freaks who love nothing more than collecting fragmentary clues -- clumps of gravel, fossilized shells and pollens, the dates that muddy sediments were deposited in dried-up lakes or whole mountain ranges were lifted -- and then trying desperately to figure out how the modern topography before their eyes was produced.

More.....

The modern Colorado appears to be a young river that flows out of the Rockies and hits a huge plateau, called the Kaibab Upwarp, which is 50 million to 70 million years old. Instead of being shunted away from this barrier, the river runs right through it. Moreover, when sediments from the river are examined closely, it is clear that the western end of the canyon -- where it flattens out and begins its final run to the Gulf of California -- is many millions of years younger than the eastern part of the river.

To many experts, this difference means that the Grand Canyon could have been cobbled together from ancient river basins that were created during different geologic eras. But if so, when and how were those ancient rivers formed and where did they go?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#163421 Apr 12, 2013
"Nother troll with nothing to say.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#163422 Apr 12, 2013
Tender pork wrote:
<quoted text> You cant fathom the degree in wich God is in control of everything.
How can that be,(which) btw when I am in control of everything? Your protest is noted , but you will get in line and you will submit. Remember who is really in control.

Never forget.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#163423 Apr 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Demanding...
Ya, ya, ya... Nice of you to ignore it all.

Doncha think it was especially Christian of Hitler to imprison, torture and execute priests?

I'm positive that if it was 1932 and you were German, you'd love Hitler. He pondered to idiots like you every day.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#163424 Apr 12, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
That was good.
The tradition started with his father. I think kim jong sr's portfolio is better.

Since: Mar 11

Australia

#163425 Apr 12, 2013
Tender Pork wrote:
<quoted text> God will likely destroy you all in an earthquake. How endowed will you be then?
I can't imagine why a God would have clicked his finger's made this lovely galaxy with a Sun that no matter how nice we are, how godly, we become, is without doubt going to enlarge as it goes into Nova/Super Nova, and burn the earth up, if that doesn't happen first, we have a massive black hole in the center of our galaxy that will pull us in. That's if we don't get smashed into by a massive asteroid.
There is no God that has to do anything, this Earth will end without anyone doing anything.

Since: Mar 11

Australia

#163426 Apr 12, 2013
Tender pork wrote:
<quoted text> You cant fathom the degree in wich God is in control of everything.
And nor can you. Or are you God's right hand person?
Tender pork

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#163427 Apr 12, 2013
saidI wrote:
<quoted text>
I can't imagine why a God would have clicked his finger's made this lovely galaxy with a Sun that no matter how nice we are, how godly, we become, is without doubt going to enlarge as it goes into Nova/Super Nova, and burn the earth up, if that doesn't happen first, we have a massive black hole in the center of our galaxy that will pull us in. That's if we don't get smashed into by a massive asteroid.
There is no God that has to do anything, this Earth will end without anyone doing anything.
The quantity of days the sun would shine were known before it was made. Scripture clearly states the end will come by fire.
Tender pork

San Juan, Puerto Rico

#163428 Apr 12, 2013
saidI wrote:
<quoted text>
And nor can you. Or are you God's right hand person?
Im a speck of dust resting quietly in Gods bosom , knowing its all to much for me
Expert in all Things

Redding, CA

#163429 Apr 12, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>The tradition started with his father. I think kim jong sr's portfolio is better.
Are you going to contribute something of substance, or are you going to keep trolling?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#163430 Apr 12, 2013
A select few who stood up to him sure but he did that to anyone who stood against him. All atheist and free thinker organizations closed and property gave to the church. Christianity taught by force in all public schools. Denying the creator got you dubbed a traitor. Certainly in lockstep with your beliefs yes?

He pondered to people like me? What the hell does that even mean?

Thanks for laughs sucker!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Ya, ya, ya... Nice of you to ignore it all.

Doncha think it was especially Christian of Hitler to imprison, torture and execute priests?

I'm positive that if it was 1932 and you were German, you'd love Hitler. He pondered to idiots like you every day.
Imhotep

Parrish, FL

#163431 Apr 13, 2013
Tender pork wrote:
<quoted text> The quantity of days the sun would shine were known before it was made. Scripture clearly states the end will come by fire.
Scripture?
Scripture is as useless as an ashtray on a bicycle

There is a good example Porky

And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.--Exodus 33:23


It sounds so homey and sweet, and you can imagine Dad smoking a pipe, seated next to the fireplace, while his adoring wife and children listen to him read from the Good Book.

But there's a problem with this cozy, homespun image. Dad's going to have to do a hell of a lot of speedy, judicious editing as he reads. The Bible is presented as the ultimate guide to moral principles, high standards and ethical living.

That book is everywhere, at least in the USA. You can't turn on the TV or radio or pick up a newspaper or magazine, or look in the window of a bookstore, let alone walk into one, or open a book catalogue, without being bombarded with the word "Bible."

The so-called History Channel is now featuring shows about David and Goliath and Noah's Ark, and it presents these biblical yarns as history.

It may be the world's best seller, but not one in a thousand knows what's really in it.

Pearl in Dung Syndrome.

If I must plow through piles of dung to uncover a pearl here and there, I refuse to do it.

This BuyBull is supposedly the guide to morality, inspired by a deity. Why is any of that awful stuff included in such a supposedly wonderful document?

Why does anyone have to make excuses for the filth in it?

The "context" argument does not hold. There is no moral context into which murdering babies, for example, may be inserted.

Know GOD?
"Know" nothing.
No GOD?
No Problem

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#163432 Apr 13, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
Spud.
How old is the universe?
13.74 billion years.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#163433 Apr 13, 2013
Satan hides even more bones to trick mankind!

http://news.yahoo.com/ancient-creature-mixed-...

Oh the lord of darkness was really working overtime on this one!

:))
Anon

Cleveland, OH

#163436 Apr 13, 2013
Mary Magdalena wrote:
<quoted text>
Throw another atheist on the fire.
I hope the smell comes through your windows.

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