Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162717 Mar 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God." (Psalm 90:1)
Ah...

I see.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162718 Mar 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>I suppose you believe we've finished the periodic table....

[QUOTE] Similar, from what I have heard to what people experience on psychedelics. That doesn't make the experience true or correctly interpreted."

True. I interpret it the way I want.

And I want to interpret it the way I have.

Problem?
Nope.

You have just admitted to confirmation bias.

Thank you.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162719 Mar 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Too easy...

All you can make is "filler" comments.

You don't have any balls to 1. disprove my god or 2. admit that you're wrong about it.

Sniveling evolutionist cowards the lot of you.

(I fixed your "Snivelling".....)
You're losing your argument badly, and you know it.

How many times has god talked to you and touched you since that first time?

What were the circumstances? We're you in church? Alone?

Had you heard of god before your experience?

Had you heard of or read the bible before your experience?

Had you not been exposed to Christianity before your experience, would you still believe it was the biblical god?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#162720 Mar 28, 2013
zaoptioinm wrote:
if nobody told me about God i would have been a horrible person so it's good that they brainwashed me..
So then you should be institutionalized. Well, at least you admit you're insane.
Zattat

Pittsburgh, PA

#162721 Mar 28, 2013
youtube.com/watch...
Sometimes you get lucky and Burn the Bible

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#162722 Mar 28, 2013
Rush wrote:
<quoted text>LOL What the hell does every body have against the tooth fairy? What's next, Easter Bunny stew? The Easter Bunny comes with the candy,and then comes the tooth fairy. If you believe in one, you have to belive in the other.
Yup.

I have evidence for the Easter bunny, too.

It hid eggs all over my house.

Colored eggs.

So I KNOW it is real.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#162723 Mar 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a god, and what you say is true, god is a real sonofabitch.
If that one's ever proven to exist, I'm joining the Resistance.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#162724 Mar 28, 2013
zaoptioinm wrote:
if nobody told me about God i would have been a horrible person so it's good that they brainwashed me..
If the only thing stopping you from being a horrible person is your deity - you're already a horrible person.
Bongo

Bayport, NY

#162725 Mar 28, 2013
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Is there a wrong end?
Yes, the typical topix atheist will be flabberghasted
Jesus also tells us in Matthew 12:36-37:I tell you, on the Day of Judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.
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Paul the Apostle took Judgment Day so seriously that he lived his life based on its court proceedings. Read 2 Corinthians 5:9-11:
Bongo

Bayport, NY

#162726 Mar 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If there is a god, and what you say is true, god is a real sonofabitch.
Keep digging yourself deeper, shnoogly. Catcher will be caught, bwhahahahahahaha

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162727 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
They were told not to but they couldn't really understand as they didn't have the knowledge of right and wrong until after they ate the fruit.
<quoted text>
Awesome.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162728 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Again low IQ reject, how did you know it was god? How did you know it was the biblical god?
<quoted text>
That's great!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162729 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Show me a copy of Tacitus pre 1600 that contains the Christ line. What's the real story retard? That a roman imperial would call some Jewish guy the messiah in his writings? Is that the real story?
Are you that stupid?
<quoted text>
Great.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162730 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yawn. You have already been humiliated on this before. Love and jealousy are demonstrable.
Again how did you know this being in your delusion was god? Which god? How did you know it wasn't the great spirit bear saying he was with you?
Or did you have a dream and attribute it to the bible god you are comfortable with?this is most likely it seems.
<quoted text>
Super!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162731 Mar 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Because of your dream.
<quoted text>
Neato!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162732 Mar 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
You have just admitted to confirmation bias.
Thank you.
Oh.

Thanks, Dr Phil.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#162733 Mar 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
You're losing your argument badly, and you know it.
How many times has god talked to you and touched you since that first time?
What were the circumstances? We're you in church? Alone?
Had you heard of god before your experience?
Had you heard of or read the bible before your experience?
Had you not been exposed to Christianity before your experience, would you still believe it was the biblical god?
I've answered those questions already, several times.

It's not my fault you don't pay attention.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#162734 Mar 28, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> That is giving that the line was not an insertion, and there are plenty of seasoned historians who think it was. But even if we accept it as genuine, it is far less than revealing as a believer would hope.
It is a highly generic statement, that could in fact be in reference to about any christian who led the order.
I see it as a confirmation of rebellion existed to rule of thumb. so it is merely confirmation that elements contrary to absolute authority existed, and that some payed dearly for not fitting in like flynn.
It is pretty clear that the lines in Josephus are insertions, but it isn't so clear that the lines in Tacitus are. The 'flow' isn't disrupted in Tacitus like it is in Josephus.
Largelanguage

Chester, UK

#162735 Mar 28, 2013
Rush wrote:
<quoted text>
Congrats! I remember what it was like my first time..........Now next is when he hopes you are dead, or tells you to kill yourself.*sigh* Young love.
Are you a new user then?
Did you start off on the california threads?
And young love is such rebellion, little boys think that their love is new, and exciting, when really they are just trying to replace the lack of affection they had from their mother.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#162736 Mar 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose you believe we've finished the periodic table....
No, and irrelevant. We know about protons and neutrons and that they can go together to form nuclei. The question in the periodic table is whether they can go together to make really big nuclei.

You like to argue that lack of *current* evidence of certain scientific phenomena is equivalent to the *permanent* lack of evidence of theological ideas. There is a HUGE difference. First of all, new evidence will come from areas we have not yet explored or been able to explore because of lack of technology. But anything detected is, by definition, physical. You, on the other hand, are claiming the existence of a non-physical which, again by definition, cannot have physical evidence. That means that it is impossible, even in theory to have evidence of your deity. You have even admitted as much.

I will admit that people have 'religious experiences'. There is actually a wide variety of such experiences produced in some fairly well-known situations. Read some William James some time if you want a more detailed investigation. The question isn't whether humans can experience this type of emotional upheaval. The question is whether there is a supernatural that in any way causes such experiences. THAT is the point you consistently avoid and that must be addresses before any mention of deities can even proceed.

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