Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Mar 27, 2013
 
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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Quick change the subject away from the fact that you have no proof that God isn't real, you snivelling little cowardly atheist.
Quick - completely forget the Burden of proof lies upon the cowardly theist to prove the ridiculous hallucination that they claim rules the entire universe.

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You see redneck, I could do this all day- showing up you stupid lying theists. Heck I do.
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Mar 27, 2013
 
Hitler believed in god, so it must be true?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Quick change the subject away from the fact that you have no proof that God isn't real, you snivelling little cowardly atheist.
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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Sorry, bub. You found no contradiction in Genesis 1:1.
Try harder or don't try at all.
How long has reading comprehension failed you?
Or. You cannot admit you've never read the Bible.

(1:1-2:3) "In the beginning"

The first of two contradictory creation accounts.

Oops!

Compare with Genesis 2:4-25 in which the order of events is entirely different.

The book is filled with contradictions.

Read it sometime

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Mar 27, 2013
 
-Skeptic- wrote:
Quick - completely forget the Burden of proof lies upon the cowardly theist to prove the ridiculous hallucination that they claim rules the entire universe.
Quick - completely forget the burden of proof lies upon the cowardly atheist to prove the ridiculous hallucination that they claim doesn't rule the entire universe.

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You see redneck, I could do this all day- showing up you stupid lying theists. Heck I do.
Ya, I can do this all day, too. Watch.

God is real and you can't prove me wrong.

HA HA !

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Thinking wrote:
Hitler believed in god, so it must be true?
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I guess if you idolize Hitler.....

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Mar 27, 2013
 
Imhotep wrote:
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How long has reading comprehension failed you?
Or. You cannot admit you've never read the Bible.
(1:1-2:3) "In the beginning"
The first of two contradictory creation accounts.
Oops!
Compare with Genesis 2:4-25 in which the order of events is entirely different.
The book is filled with contradictions.
Read it sometime
No, no, no.

It's YOUR reading comprehension that's failing YOU.

You said you can find a contradiction in EVERY bible verse.

Find the contradiction for Genesis 1:1.

(Not Genesis 1:2, 1:3, 2:4-25.........)

Genesis 1:1.

Go.

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What about elementaryschool?
derp
Not sure, but I think you missed the joke. Unless this was suppose to be a joke too, in which case I just didn't get it.

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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Quick - completely forget the burden of proof lies upon the cowardly atheist to prove the ridiculous hallucination that they claim doesn't rule the entire universe.
What is it we claim rules the entire universe? Must have missed that meeting.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, no, no.
It's YOUR reading comprehension that's failing YOU.
You said you can find a contradiction in EVERY bible verse.
Find the contradiction for Genesis 1:1.
(Not Genesis 1:2, 1:3, 2:4-25.........)
Genesis 1:1.
Go.
Grasping at straws again RR!
The poster was correct.

Yes it is a contradiction.

The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.

Here is a typical EXCUSE(apologetics ) site... I am fair!

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/gene...

The Bible's first paragraph - simple enough in English translation - is actually quite problematic in the Hebrew syntax. The first sentence of the Bible, indeed the first word, presents interpreters with some of the most complex and difficult questions of the Bible. Without getting into details here, the basic question is the syntactical relationship of v. 1 to v. 2, and the relationship of both of these together to v. 3.

To complicate matters further, debates about these verses are rarely conducted in a detached non-emotional manner based solely on the particulars of Hebrew syntax. Longstanding theological convictions about the subject matter often impinge upon the way interpreters read this text.
The New Cambridge Bible Commentary: Genesis, pp. 34-35, 2009)

With certain theological biases in place, and armed with a lack of knowledge of Biblical Hebrew (and other related cognate languages), one can get into useless discussios with people who have only one goal in view: uphold their previously taught faith or tradition-based-view.

Such attempts, thankully, are limited to Fundamentalists - as the rest of Christianity has long moved past clinging to older, out-dated views on the text.

As Claus Westermann puts it, "the debate about the beginnings of the world and of humankind has long since passed from the field of religion to the field of science, and the Christian Churches of the last generations have renounced their claims to enter the lists in the scientific controversies" (Introduction to Genesis, p. 1, 19794, Trans. 1992). He does admit the power the story still has for many.

Have you ever wondered WHY your faith needs a apologists?
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Not me, but many christians did.

Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
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I guess if you idolize Hitler.....
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Mar 27, 2013
 
Ha! If thats what you think you're doing science wrong.

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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!
That dude?!
Lol, all he's good at is spinning tall tales.
Just like the apostles.

Only Michio deals with real science, not magic.

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Mar 27, 2013
 
KittenKoder wrote:
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What is it we claim rules the entire universe? Must have missed that meeting.
You claim "it isn't God".

Your claim, your onus.

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CunningLinguist wrote:
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Grasping at straws again RR!
The poster was correct.
Yes it is a contradiction.
The "Word of God", far from being inerrant, has always been a work in progress.
Here is a typical EXCUSE(apologetics ) site... I am fair!
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/gene...
The Bible's first paragraph - simple enough in English translation - is actually quite problematic in the Hebrew syntax. The first sentence of the Bible, indeed the first word, presents interpreters with some of the most complex and difficult questions of the Bible. Without getting into details here, the basic question is the syntactical relationship of v. 1 to v. 2, and the relationship of both of these together to v. 3.
To complicate matters further, debates about these verses are rarely conducted in a detached non-emotional manner based solely on the particulars of Hebrew syntax. Longstanding theological convictions about the subject matter often impinge upon the way interpreters read this text.
The New Cambridge Bible Commentary: Genesis, pp. 34-35, 2009)
With certain theological biases in place, and armed with a lack of knowledge of Biblical Hebrew (and other related cognate languages), one can get into useless discussios with people who have only one goal in view: uphold their previously taught faith or tradition-based-view.
Such attempts, thankully, are limited to Fundamentalists - as the rest of Christianity has long moved past clinging to older, out-dated views on the text.
As Claus Westermann puts it, "the debate about the beginnings of the world and of humankind has long since passed from the field of religion to the field of science, and the Christian Churches of the last generations have renounced their claims to enter the lists in the scientific controversies" (Introduction to Genesis, p. 1, 19794, Trans. 1992). He does admit the power the story still has for many.
Have you ever wondered WHY your faith needs a apologists?
I see that you can't find a contradiction in the bible of Genesis 1:1....

I win.

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Mar 27, 2013
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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Just like the apostles.
Only Michio deals with real science, not magic.
Even God....

"What was God thinking when the universe was created? That’s where we are going with this thing [the super collider].… The universe… is quite beautiful… it could have been random… it could have been horrible… that’s what Einstein believed. 11:51-11:52 P.M., 1/29/2010, Coast to Coast A.M.. his reply to the host Art Bell"

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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You claim "it isn't God".
Your claim, your onus.
That's not the same as making a positive claim, you said we claimed that something did, now you admit we just say we don't know. So how are we suppose to preach about "I don't know?"
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Mar 27, 2013
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I see that you can't find a contradiction in the bible of Genesis 1:1....
I win.
LOSER!

In Genesis, Chapter 1, God creates the animals as well as plants and trees before he creates man. But, in Chapter 2, God creates man previous to his creating animals or plants.

Contradiction.
Yes... "faith is blind" and you are blind as bat, by your own design!

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