Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160972 Mar 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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And science does not say that the speed of light is constant. It says that the speed of light *in a vacuum* is constant.
Now, space, even in fairly dense nebula like the Orion nebula is a very, very good vacuum, better than anything we can produce on earth. So the speed of light, even in a nebula like the Orion nebula, is more than 99.9999% of C.
So the whole discussion, which started as a question of how long it takes for light to travel billions of light years, is rather pointless. For accuracy available for the distances discussed, the speed of light through a nebula is the same as the speed of light in a vacuum.
Unless you think there are large bodies of liquid water in space between the distant galaxies and us, using the speed of light in a vacuum is perfectly valid.
Can you prove this?
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160973 Mar 18, 2013
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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No, I'm not getting angry.
Are you tying to make me angry?
Is infinite energy available?
Denying you are getting angry to try to make yourself not look weak? Does meth effect the brain making it more self conscious?
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160974 Mar 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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You were wrong when you said that the speed of light in water is a constant. In fact, it varies with frequency. You made the same mistake about the speed of light in paper.
Why does it vary with frequency moron?
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160975 Mar 18, 2013
Richardfs wrote:
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M = m/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2)
Where:-
M = Relativist Mass
m = Rest Mass
v = Velocity of body
c = Velocity of Light
Speed is not the cause for mass. Mass and energy causes speed. An objects movement, and its speed it caused by force, idiot! Speed doesn't cause the force!

Shut up polymath257
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160976 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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An atheist and an agnostic are quite different, son.
Right, I see it now. You call everybody "son".
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160977 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's awesome, but I have no idea what it means.
I gave up on math when they started putting letters in it :)
So why not blame yourself that you didn't get your diploma because you didn't work hard enough in class?
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160978 Mar 18, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Yes, but the speed of light *in a vacuum* does not. By convention, unless otherwise stated, the speed of light *means* the speed of light in a vacuum.
It is the speed of light in a vacuum that is c. So c is a constant. It is even an exact constant: 299,792,458 meters per second. This is contrary to your previous claims (post 160521).
Furthermore, the speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all observers. So, if you were moving at half the speed of light past me and I turned on a flashlight, you would see the beam from that flashlight catch up to you with a speed of c (assuming all is in a vacuum).
Light slows down the further it travels.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#160979 Mar 18, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Right, I see it now. You call everybody "son".
Except you. I call you "bitch".
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160980 Mar 18, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I am not asking what you rest on your chin when you are sucking dick
I see you have not offered any citations for what you say. Your opinion is your opinion and just like buttholes, everyone has an opinion.
Nope, it was a series of minority terrorist attacks against a majority population
Let me show you what Roman Catholic Resources says about the IRA
Q. What is the Irish Republican Army, Catholic or Protestant?
A.… They are Catholics,…
A. The IRA, which is mostly dissolved, was a Catholic organization….
A. Extreme right "Catholic republicans, to be exact….
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Iris...
You want to lie then feel free to lie if it helps you masturbate but don’t go accusing me of lying just because you are a moron
They were british, so they were conservative, not republican, idiot! Look, damaged goods, the KKK were democratic.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160981 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Except you. I call you "bitch".
You haven't been paying much attention in class, not surprised you didn't earn your way to getting a highschool diploma. Blame yourself for your lack of success in life!

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#160982 Mar 18, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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List them by name and parish ..
Right you can't
but you can generalize :-)
Oh I can, just because you are clueless does not meant everyone is

we have Martin McGuinnis (now claims to have left the IRA because his political job pays better)
Gerry Adams
Kevin McKenna
Thomas "Slab" Murphy
And many, many more, want a bigger list, there are plenty, want their postal addresses? You want a list of people (including children) they are responsible for killing? Only this weekend was a special service in Warrington in remembrance of the children they killed there. How about crippled, maimed, or just lucky to get away with injury that heals?

As for parish, Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Tyrone and south of the border too

Don’t ya just love these ignorant morons who are clueless. I would not be in the least surprised if you contributed to Noraid on your way out of church every Sunday morning totally ignorant that those donations were being used to kill people. So tell me, are you partially responsible for murder?

Honey, we are not all as ignorant as you, I have made the study of the IRA quite a priority in my life seeing as how my aunt was maimed for life in the Manchester bombing and I was injured. Tell me, was that bomb financed with the help of cash you donated?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#160983 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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IOW - You have an excuse for everything.
Nice.
So because you have been shown to be foolish you claim I have an excuse?

You really are so sad, Be a man grow a set and admit you lies.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160984 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That doesn't provide any evidence....
This does:



Nothing but a black hole can be contained in the area within these orbits.

You can admit you were wrong now.
Lincoln

United States

#160985 Mar 18, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Oh I can, just because you are clueless does not meant everyone is
we have Martin McGuinnis (now claims to have left the IRA because his political job pays better)
Gerry Adams
Kevin McKenna
Thomas "Slab" Murphy
And many, many more, want a bigger list, there are plenty, want their postal addresses? You want a list of people (including children) they are responsible for killing? Only this weekend was a special service in Warrington in remembrance of the children they killed there. How about crippled, maimed, or just lucky to get away with injury that heals?
As for parish, Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry, Tyrone and south of the border too
Don’t ya just love these ignorant morons who are clueless. I would not be in the least surprised if you contributed to Noraid on your way out of church every Sunday morning totally ignorant that those donations were being used to kill people. So tell me, are you partially responsible for murder?
Honey, we are not all as ignorant as you, I have made the study of the IRA quite a priority in my life seeing as how my aunt was maimed for life in the Manchester bombing and I was injured.

Tell me, was that bomb financed with the help of cash you donated?
No don't donate money.

Thanks for the list.
UK still runs Ulster last time we looked
Cheers

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160986 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I said the speed of light varies.
You agreed.
And you want me to admit what?
That your statement was incomplete.

The same thing you accuse others of being wrong about when they do the same.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#160987 Mar 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"as giggle"?!
"irrelevance replies"?!?
LMAO! You "freethinkers" must get lost in your own egos or something....
Or it could just be a bit of dyslexia, I don’t need an ego like yours for being unable to spot errors particularly when the words is spelled correctly so my spell checker does not flag it up.

However if you want to LMAO at my disability, feel free to wet yourself, after all it’s the christian way.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#160988 Mar 18, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You supposedly have 13.2 billion by 6 trillion miles between here and there. A long walk. It is not totally empty space, materially or energywise. There is at least a bare minimum refractive effect to it along the whole way. Even more when it enters the galaxy and the solar system.
And what is the *largest* the refractive index will be on that journey? So how much does that affect the total time of travel?
Oh, and since gravity can bend light waves, it can also impede their emission outwards.
Only if there is a very concentrated mass.
A very light breeze will blow you off course over a long distance as will a heavy one in a short distance.
You base your constants on too little real info.
On the contrary, we have very good info on densities and thereby indices of refraction in interstellar space. More relevant than refraction is actually absorption, but that is also easily detected and corrected for.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#160989 Mar 18, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Light slows down the further it travels.
Wrong.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#160990 Mar 18, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Can you prove this?
Yes.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#160991 Mar 18, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Why does it vary with frequency moron?
Resonance.

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