Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Largelanguage wrote:
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Like your silly evolution of chemicals in your big bang theory? Idiot! You are saying without evidence a supernova is a mini big bang?
No, that is not what he said.
Helium didn't come from oxygen and so on, they didn't evolve in your silly big bang.
Actually, oxygen came from helium.

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<quoted text>Not quite true. The heavier elements can be picked up from the gas and dust clouds when stars form. This happens for second and third generation stars.

[QUOTE]All of the elements heavier than iron are formed in supernova explosions when the shock wave from the supernova slams into previously ejected elements. "

Again, not quite true. The heavier elements form inside the star during the generation of the supernova shock wave, not in the shock wave hits the previously ejected materials.
Actually, I've seen both cases mentioned.

The elements form in layers, like an onion.

Once they reach iron, fusion stops, as iron absorbs energy. Gravity, as it is no longer being countered by the energy of fusion, wins the battle and the star collapses on itself.

That collapse happens in a matter of seconds and the shock of the collapse explodes the star.

Some of the heavier elements form during the collapse, some from the explosion and some from the previously ejected gasses.

Of course, this is oversimplified, but I think it's got the basics.

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polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>Starting?
True.

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Largelanguage wrote:
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Like your silly evolution of chemicals in your big bang theory? Idiot! You are saying without evidence a supernova is a mini big bang?
Helium didn't come from oxygen and so on, they didn't evolve in your silly big bang.
Apparently the Periodic Table is also a mystery to you.

Out of curiousity, have you ever attended any science class anywhere?

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Actually, I've seen both cases mentioned.
The elements form in layers, like an onion.
Once they reach iron, fusion stops, as iron absorbs energy. Gravity, as it is no longer being countered by the energy of fusion, wins the battle and the star collapses on itself.
That collapse happens in a matter of seconds and the shock of the collapse explodes the star.
Some of the heavier elements form during the collapse, some from the explosion and some from the previously ejected gasses.
Of course, this is oversimplified, but I think it's got the basics.
fair enough.
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No, that is not what he said.
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Actually, oxygen came from helium.
Oxygen didn't. You're silly science only says it did during the big bang.
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Actually, I've seen both cases mentioned.
The elements form in layers, like an onion.
Once they reach iron, fusion stops, as iron absorbs energy. Gravity, as it is no longer being countered by the energy of fusion, wins the battle and the star collapses on itself.
That collapse happens in a matter of seconds and the shock of the collapse explodes the star.
Some of the heavier elements form during the collapse, some from the explosion and some from the previously ejected gasses.
Of course, this is oversimplified, but I think it's got the basics.
Iron can't absorb every type of energy.
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<quoted text>299,792,458 m/s exact.

You did go to school?
Which colour light is that "exact" speed for?

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Largelanguage wrote:
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Oxygen didn't. You're silly science only says it did during the big bang.
No, actually, it is pretty clear about oxygen NOT being made during the Big Bang.

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True.
I'm beginning to think s/he is actually a Poe.

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Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>Oxygen didn't. You're silly science only says it did during the big bang.
Only hydrogen, some helium and traces of lithium came directly from the Big Bang.

All of the heavier elements had to wait until after stars formed.

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[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Which colour light is that "exact" speed for?
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In a vacuum? All 'colors', including ones like infra-red, radio waves, ultra-violet, x-rays, etc.

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polymath257 wrote:
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I'm beginning to think s/he is actually a Poe.
I believe you may be right.
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<quoted text>No, that's why I said EXACT.
And what colour light was that "EXACT" speed for again?

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[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
And what colour light was that "EXACT" speed for again?[/QUOTE]Colour is a function of wavelength.
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polymath257 wrote:
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So if a car was traveling at 299,792,458 m/s and turned on its headlights would that light then be traveling twice that speed? Of would its lights never leave the bulb?
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Since you can't get a massive object (like the car) to move at the speed of light, the question is nonsense.

Now, if the car was going at 299,792,457 meters per second past you, you would see the light as moving at 1 meter per second away from the car and the car would see it as moving at 299,793,458 meters per second away from it.
"Since you can't get a massive object (like the car) to move at the speed of light, the question is nonsense."

You haven't seen my car!

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[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>Which colour light is that "exact" speed for?[/QUOTE]

All light.

Light is just another name for electromagnetic radiation.

Visible light is the tiny part of the spectrum of wavelengths that we can see with our eyes.

It all travels at c in a vacuum.

Different wavelengths travel at different velocities through different media.

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Catcher1 wrote:
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I have told you before.
Catcher's very purpose on these threads is to educate the uninformed and help people lead a better life.
Am I doing a creditable job?
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blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>So you believe in pixie dust, and the fish Gods from Neptune? What about the all power God thing that keeps slapping you in the head?????? Aren't you NOT supposed to have others Gods before you? Your baby killer is gong to be very displeased with you!!!
Did I say I believe in pixie dust or gods of Neptune?

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Mar 16, 2013
 
scaritual wrote:
KittenKoder wrote:
It hasn't detected leprechauns either.
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Well, there's this.
"I set My rainbow in a cloud, and it shall be for the sign of the covenant [promise] between Me and the earth. It shall be, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud; and I will remember My covenant which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; the waters shall never again become a flood to destroy all flesh." - Genesis 9:13-15.
It was soon after that the Leprechauns started their hiding pots of gold at the end of the rainbow.
But, we know the world wasn't destroyed by a "worldwide biblical deluge". We know "all flesh" wasn't destroyed by the biblical deluge.
It is myth. Just like Leprechauns are myth, too.
Science has a good record for being able to detect reality.
Science really can't detect or verify unreality.
It's funny that everyone always thinks *current* science is correct.

Science used to know that the universe was infinite.

Science used to know that the Milky Way is the universe.

Science used to know that insects come from rotting foods.

And the people of the times knew science was right....

Just like you do today.

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