Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Mar 11

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#160551 Mar 16, 2013
To me, unregistered troll rejects are worth as much of my time and consideration as a random goat farmer in Indonesia snoring.

Honestly I see the unregistered troll name and auto ignore now.

They may as well post cake mix cookie recipes for all I care.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I believe you may be right.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160552 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Yes it is and if a light is moving up and down (frequency) a hundred times more often then another light can they make the same distance in the same amount of time?[/QUOTE]

No, light is NOT 'moving up and down continually'. What is varying is the electric and magnetic fields.

And yes, the speed of light is the same in a vacuum for all frequencies.
*THOR*

United States

#160553 Mar 16, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>Ok so what's the story with red shift and blue shift of galaxy's?"

Red shifted galaxies (the vast majority of the galaxies in the universe) are moving away from us.

Blue shifted galaxies (like the andromeda galaxy) are moving towards us.
Red is slower because the galaxy is moving away. Blue is faster because the galaxy is moving towards us.

Red = Slower
Blue = Faster

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160554 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
But in a vacuum you're saying frequency makes no difference?[/QUOTE]

Yes.
*THOR*

United States

#160555 Mar 16, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
<quoted text>data for god = none
Correct!

God is outside of laws (his laws) of the universe. time does not exist where he is so there would be no date.

Jimmy got one right!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160556 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, actually, the value of c=299,792,458 meters per second *is* exact. That is how the meter is *defined*.
Then explain why it's slower underwater.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160557 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been found by its gravitational effects. Neutrinos have been found by their effects on radioactivity. Neither has been detected directly.
Oh, stop. Please stop.

That's like saying the smell of chocolate is evidence of chocolate when in fact it is only evidence is the smell of the chocolate but not chocolate itself.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160558 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then explain why it's slower underwater.
That is the exact speed *in a vacuum*, as has been pointed out many times.

Light going *through matter* is slowed down by the interaction (actually absorption and re-emission) by that matter.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#160559 Mar 16, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
From wiki:
The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant important in many areas of physics. Its value is 299,792,458 metres per second, a figure that is exact because the length of the metre is defined from this constant and the international standard for time.[1]
Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.

I hope you learned something today

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#160560 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then explain why it's slower underwater.
This is a good source for replacement parts for irony meters.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/ecatalog/N-1...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Irony_meter

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160561 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Red is slower because the galaxy is moving away. Blue is faster because the galaxy is moving towards us.
Red = Slower
Blue = Faster
[/QUOTE]
Red light and blue light travel at the same speed in a vacuum (and only slightly different speeds in air or water).
The reason for the red or blue shift is that something moving away (say) has moved extra distance while it is emitting one wavelength of light, which means that wavelength is stretched. The opposite happens for light emitted by objects moving towards us. Longer wavelengths are said to be red-shifted and shorter wavelengths are said to be blue shifted.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160562 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the exact speed *in a vacuum*, as has been pointed out many times.
Light going *through matter* is slowed down by the interaction (actually absorption and re-emission) by that matter.
Actually, there was recently a particle discovered that was faster than light.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160563 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.
I hope you learned something today
And it is the speed of light *in a vacuum* that is the same for all observers.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160564 Mar 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah sure, in a vacuum the speed of light is constant. But underwater the speed of light is a different constant. In an atmosphere the speed of light is a different constant. In a nebula the speed of light is a different constant.
I hope you learned something today
Actually, the speed of light in water is *not* a constant. That speed in water does, in fact, depend on the frequency of the light. That is partly why refraction is different for different frequencies, which is why we get rainbows.

And yes, the speed depends on the frequency in air and in nebulae, but not nearly as much.

It is only in a vacuum that the speed does not depend on the frequency.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160565 Mar 16, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, there was recently a particle discovered that was faster than light.
Wrong. Some scientists at CERN presented some observations that *appeared* to imply that neutrinos can move faster than light. It turned out to be wrong because of some wiring issues. When they announced it, they didn't even believe their results, but couldn't explain them. They later found their mistake.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160566 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Some scientists at CERN presented some observations that *appeared* to imply that neutrinos can move faster than light. It turned out to be wrong because of some wiring issues. When they announced it, they didn't even believe their results, but couldn't explain them. They later found their mistake.
What was the wiring issue?
Normally lecturers wouldn't just be on spring break. How come those still studying don't have you there for them while on spring break?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#160567 Mar 16, 2013
LargeLanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
What was the wiring issue?
http://phys.org/news/2012-02-faster-neutrinos...
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/02/22/einstein-...
Normally lecturers wouldn't just be on spring break. How come those still studying don't have you there for them while on spring break?
Yes, professors are off for spring break also. No, professors are generally 'not available' over spring break.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#160568 Mar 16, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://phys.org/news/2012-02-faster-neutrinos...
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11125516...
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/02/22/einstein-...
<quoted text>
Yes, professors are off for spring break also. No, professors are generally 'not available' over spring break.
How can you be a profesor? You don't at all seem to a PhD.
christianity is EVIL

Summerside, Canada

#160569 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
Correct!
God is outside of laws (his laws) of the universe. time does not exist where he is so there would be no date.
Jimmy got one right!
[/QUOTE]
did god told you this or are you just making up BS?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#160570 Mar 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="*THOR*"]<quo ted text>
But in a vacuum you're saying frequency makes no difference?[/QUOTE]

Frequency makes no difference to the speed in a vacuum.

Correct.

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