Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
Largelanguage wrote:
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Light only is visible when it meets our eyes. We can't see light travel because when not in contact on our eyes it isn't visible.
There is light, that is not visible by human eyes.
But we have devised ways to see this light.
Visible light is a specific frequency, but there is frequency beyond our eyes to detect, From ELF wave to gamma but the visible frequency is small.

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You are just some silly low class self confessed supposedly expert.
You are just some intellectual wannabe, how silly of you to claim to be in line with the big dogs. You never had any degrees, just read common knowledge you remembered reading in books since you were little. And if not, what trash and low quality stuff have they been teaching you at university? Poor you, not much good education you get, have more selfish pity for yourself in that case! You don't have any real degrees! What would your children or grandchildren think of you? What about your wife? Not so impressed by you, feels sorry for you because you are a bit silly and and didn't live up to yourself and your standards?
He is a very adapt and skilled mathematician, who is also at least 5 orders of magnitude educated beyond your petty squabbling ,wreaking of stupid protests.
You were talking when you should have been listening.

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Mar 15, 2013
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Youngblood, you said you have a PhD in math, and are presently taking physics. Right now you are playing Johnny telling everyone what he learned in school today.
Puppy, it takes years working with something to get a real grasp of it, to reach real professional status. That is especially true of what you are studying now. It is quite evident you don't really have a grasp of physics principles yet. That takes time and is learned from working with it, not reading about it. This QM appeals to you because you feel it is fast tracking you to understand because of your math background, but you have to understand those basics first. You don;t go from math school to being an actuary, you have to learn other things first. Math to physics is about as radical a change as they can get. Physics is a flow of the real thing, not blocks of numbers.
Reread you Higg's mechanism, and try to understand what it says. Reread your space/time curvature stuff and understand that can't happen in a nothing. There has to be a something. If there is a something, then another something passing through it has to move out of the way, and the hole it leaves as it moves has to be filled. Unless you are absolutley sure there is true nothingness in this universe that your professors will tell you can't happen, because if it was true, you wouldn't have the theory they have now.
Oh, and get right with God. The supplier of the stuff you get to play with now. It didn't come from nothing. Another very basic principle of real physics.
You swam into the tank with real knowledge, you will not be able to bull shit your way out Dave. So STFU, poly has demonstrated his ability.

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Mar 15, 2013
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> You swam into the tank with real knowledge, you will not be able to bull shit your way out Dave. So STFU, poly has demonstrated his ability.
You would think so. I am happy he has a fan.

Encyclopedias are real knowledge. But they aren't capable of thinking or doing.
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Mar 15, 2013
 
agnosticism probably does.. not atheism..

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You would think so. I am happy he has a fan.
Encyclopedias are real knowledge. But they aren't capable of thinking or doing.

There be something to learn from a teacher, even if you are one.
Though I am not a teacher, this student will never cease to listen and learn. Even from those who I have taught, or those who have something to say.

I know it's something , you know it all's
will never understand.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You would think so. I am happy he has a fan.
Encyclopedias are real knowledge. But they aren't capable of thinking or doing.
Do not mistake me either Dave, I am sometimes at odds with Poly, we disagree on many things.
But on the lions share we do agree , that is how we are taught to understand. We accept these things , that are taught and we call this science. Sometimes it is wrong, and a gifted person can show how and explain why. Providing the evidence as exactly why something is different than what we think.

But unless you can provide the evidence as exactly why something is different than what we think. Then you are just talking, nothing wrong with just talking, but there is no credit in talking.
No Nobel Prize , no credit for discovery, nothing but conversation.

Now as we were saying as correctly as scientifically possible.....

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You would think so. I am happy he has a fan.
Encyclopedias are real knowledge. But they aren't capable of thinking or doing.
And how many research papers have *you* published? You know, ones that actually contribute to human knowledge? And that actually say somethign new and useful?

None?

I thuoght so.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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There be something to learn from a teacher, even if you are one.
Though I am not a teacher, this student will never cease to listen and learn. Even from those who I have taught, or those who have something to say.
I know it's something , you know it all's
will never understand.
An eternal student goes nowhere.

Start doing, and you start learning.

Education is acquainting you with things for you to start working on in your own way.

It is those differences in perspective and logic that add up to an overall increase in knowledge. Otherwise you are a choirboy.

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Mar 15, 2013
 
Thinking wrote:
To the nearest m/s.
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No, that's why I said EXACT.

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And how many research papers have *you* published? You know, ones that actually contribute to human knowledge? And that actually say somethign new and useful?
None?
I thuoght so.
Do I have an obligation to tell everything I know to those who can't understand it or will pervert it for their own gain?

You don't hand loaded guns to monkeys,

You don't understand what you know.
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discocrisco wrote:
Maybe, the Christians got it right on the God thing. What they didn't know that is there is intelligent life right and God manifested himself in another way than us.
And there is millions of our civilizations among this universe and millions of ways God revealed himslf to them
But see it was none of business to know how he did it. It is beyond our feeble little minds. Us humans think we are terminally unique. Guess what. We are not. We are little specks in the infinite, large cosmos.
hhu
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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Do I have an obligation to tell everything I know to those who can't understand it or will pervert it for their own gain?
You don't hand loaded guns to monkeys,
You don't understand what you know.
Aahhh, the arrogance of ignorance or in your case utter ignorance.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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You would think so. I am happy he has a fan.
Encyclopedias are real knowledge. But they aren't capable of thinking or doing.
"Encyclopedić."

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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An eternal student goes nowhere.
Start doing, and you start learning.
Education is acquainting you with things for you to start working on in your own way.
It is those differences in perspective and logic that add up to an overall increase in knowledge. Otherwise you are a choirboy.
Well you talk the talk , but can you...walk the walk?
Singing again choirboy?
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Mar 15, 2013
 
To be pedantic, an exact value is also equal to its nearest integer.

But sorry Rfs, I was only joking. I know the modern metre is no longer defined by a metal bar kept at a certain temp in Paris, it is defined by c versus time.
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No, that's why I said EXACT.

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299,792,458 m/s exact.
You did go to school?

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http://www.livescience.com/27840-shape-shifti...

Interesting story.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/06/mark-burnet...

Yep, interest in religion is on the wane. Just ask any Topix atheist.

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Hmmm a boring article about old data on how Egyptians added to the Jesus myth. Yawn.

And an even duller arrival about wind blowing on the set of a tv show around the time the actors mentioned the wind! Wowsers I bet that only happens 800,000,000 times a day around the world!

Brain hurting today Dave?
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http://www.livescience.com/278 40-shape-shifting-jesus-ancien t-text.html
Interesting story.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/06/mark-burnet...
Yep, interest in religion is on the wane. Just ask any Topix atheist.

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