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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#159951 Mar 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
There should be a study of eyesight and personality, mental conditions, and etc.
Eyesight is the most important input to our thoughts.
Does someone with dyslexia also have an issue with translating other inputs, like words and concepts, twisting them around much the same as their eyesight?
Are myopic people more centered on themselves than others? What about far sighted? I've always been very farsighted. I could see things on the horizon others weren't even aware of.
The type pf eyesight has to affect how one views the world.:-) It has to shape the thinking process just because of the environment and the ability to see it.
Several studies have already done, you are once again behind the times

Not really surprising considering you claim to be “far” sighted

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...
Lincoln

United States

#159952 Mar 13, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitch...
"Voltaire was simply ludicrous when he said that if god did not exist it would be necessary to invent him. The human invention of god is the problem to begin with.
Islam makes very large claims for itself. In its art, there is a prejudice against representing the human form at all. The prohibition on picturing the prophet – who was only another male mammal – is apparently absolute. So is the prohibition on pork or alcohol or, in some Muslim societies, music or dancing. Very well then, let a good Muslim abstain rigorously from all these. But if he claims the right to make me abstain as well, he offers the clearest possible warning and proof of an aggressive intent.
The Bible contains a warrant for trafficking in humans, for ethnic cleansing, for slavery, for bride-price, and for indiscriminate massacre, but we are not bound by any of it because it was put together by crude, uncultured goat herders.
Religious exhortation and telling people, telling children, that if they don’t do the right thing, they’ll go to terrifying punishments or unbelievable rewards, that’s making a living out of lying to children. That’s what the priesthood do. And if all they did was lie to the children, it would be bad enough. But they rape them and torture them and then hope we’ll call it ‘abuse’.
Religion is man-made. Even the men who made it cannot agree on what their prophets or redeemers or gurus actually said or did.
Everything about Christianity is contained in the pathetic image of 'the flock.
Judaism has some advantages over Christianity in that, for example, it does not proselytise — except among Jews — and it does not make the cretinous mistake of saying that the Messiah has already made his appearance. However, along with Islam and Christianity, it does insist that some turgid and contradictory and sometimes evil and mad texts, obviously written by fairly unexceptional humans, are in fact the word of god. I think that the indispensable condition of any intellectual liberty is the realisation that there is no such thing.
Faith is the surrender of the mind; it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other mammals.
It's our need to believe, and to surrender our scepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me.

Of all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated."
Don't be modest,

Atheist faith in nothing seems in first place :-)

Even Dawkins is backing off........

At one point, though, Dawkins did retreat from one of his previous comments. At Reason Rally 2012 — a national atheist event — he had encouraged atheists to “ridicule” Catholics.

In hindsight, he confessed,“I think I did go too far,” though he claimed that he had not intended for ridicule to mean name-calling..........

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#159953 Mar 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Several studies have already done, you are once again behind the times
Not really surprising considering you claim to be “far” sighted
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...
A link to a bunch of links to gobbleydegook which appears much are related to games is your idea of proof or something?

Awareness is dependent on how far you can see. If you grow up being able to see in the distance, then your thinking follows that path. If you are dyslexic you have more issues than just assembling words to understand. It is all part of the thinking process. Being dyslexic is like having a shell around you that things suddenly appear in and you have to deal with, but they are scattered and have to be sorted. Myopia just decreases the reaction time, dyslexia adds more time for the translating, if learned. This can cause over reactiveness.

You remind me of a guy I worked with a long time ago. Very intelligent, but a wild man. Had this kind of squinty look he went around with. This was overseas and he often had car accidents and arguments with the locals. One day he came in wearing glasses. He mellowed out tremendously, the most dramatic change I had ever seen in a person. He could see at a distance now, and gave him more time to analyze what was going on.

Your emotional state never got reset after your dyslexia was corrected.
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#159955 Mar 13, 2013
You're spamming.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be modest,
Atheist faith in nothing seems in first place :-)
Even Dawkins is backing off........
At one point, though, Dawkins did retreat from one of his previous comments. At Reason Rally 2012 — a national atheist event — he had encouraged atheists to “ridicule” Catholics.
In hindsight, he confessed,“I think I did go too far,” though he claimed that he had not intended for ridicule to mean name-calling..........

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#159956 Mar 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
A link to a bunch of links to gobbleydegook which appears much are related to games is your idea of proof or something?
Awareness is dependent on how far you can see. If you grow up being able to see in the distance, then your thinking follows that path. If you are dyslexic you have more issues than just assembling words to understand. It is all part of the thinking process. Being dyslexic is like having a shell around you that things suddenly appear in and you have to deal with, but they are scattered and have to be sorted. Myopia just decreases the reaction time, dyslexia adds more time for the translating, if learned. This can cause over reactiveness.
You remind me of a guy I worked with a long time ago. Very intelligent, but a wild man. Had this kind of squinty look he went around with. This was overseas and he often had car accidents and arguments with the locals. One day he came in wearing glasses. He mellowed out tremendously, the most dramatic change I had ever seen in a person. He could see at a distance now, and gave him more time to analyze what was going on.
Your emotional state never got reset after your dyslexia was corrected.
Nope a link to thousands and THOUSANDS and T H O U S A N D S of the type of studies you mention. Because you are too ignorant and egotestical (correct spelling) to accept that medicine and science have thought of it before you is no ones fault but your own

We are not bothered about your personal and ignorant view. Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware than non dyslexics, not a hard and fast rule but a generality. A considerably higher proportion of people classed as genius are dyslexic than the general population would suggest.

You are (typically and no doubt from ignorance) blaming dyslexia on eyesight in the hope or provoking a reaction. And what you are getting in return is facts that show you to be nothing more than chief button pusher of davesworld

Again your stupidity bubbles to the top, dyslexia cannot be cured like the flu. Or corrected like a badly set joint. I have dyslexia, I will always have dyslexia, I use tools to circumvent some of the effects of my disability, that is in no way correcting the malady

Tell me do you enjoy kicking cripples in the street?

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#159957 Mar 13, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be modest,
Atheist faith in nothing seems in first place :-)
Even Dawkins is backing off........
At one point, though, Dawkins did retreat from one of his previous comments. At Reason Rally 2012 — a national atheist event — he had encouraged atheists to “ridicule” Catholics.
In hindsight, he confessed,“I think I did go too far,” though he claimed that he had not intended for ridicule to mean name-calling..........
Try telling that to the IRA

Good Catholics all and I can’t say I heard them saying they went too far when then killed children
Lincoln

United States

#159958 Mar 13, 2013
The Year of Living Dangerously (film) with spiritual overtones, interesting ...

Guy Hamilton, a neophyte foreign correspondent for an Australian network, arrives in Jakarta on assignment. He meets the close-knit members of the foreign correspondent community including journalists from the UK, the US and New Zealand, diplomatic personnel, and a Chinese-Australian dwarf of high intelligence and moral seriousness, Billy Kwan. Hamilton is initially unsuccessful because his predecessor, tired of life in Indonesia, had departed without introducing Hamilton to his contacts. Guy receives limited sympathy from the journalist community, which competes for scraps of information from Sukarno's government, the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI), and the conservative Muslim military. However, Kwan takes a liking to Hamilton and arranges interviews for him with key political figures.
Kwan introduces Hamilton to Jill Bryant, a beautiful young assistant at the British embassy. Kwan and Bryant are close friends, and he subtly manipulates her encounters with Hamilton. After resisting Hamilton because she's returning to the UK, Bryant falls in love with him. Discovering that the Communist Chinese are arming the PKI, Bryant passes this information to Hamilton to save his life, but he wants to cover the Communist rebellion that will occur when the arms shipment reaches Jakarta. Shocked, Kwan and Bryant withdraw their friendship from Hamilton, and he is left with the American journalist Pete Curtis, and his own assistant and driver Kumar, who is secretly PKI. Kumar, however, remains loyal to Hamilton and tries to open his eyes to all that is going on.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159959 Mar 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
There should be a study of eyesight and personality, mental conditions, and etc.
Eyesight is the most important input to our thoughts.
Does someone with dyslexia also have an issue with translating other inputs, like words and concepts, twisting them around much the same as their eyesight?
Are myopic people more centered on themselves than others? What about far sighted? I've always been very farsighted. I could see things on the horizon others weren't even aware of.
The type pf eyesight has to affect how one views the world.:-) It has to shape the thinking process just because of the environment and the ability to see it.
By your own admission, eyesight seems to be an extremely important part of how our species functions. Why then the horrible design? Wired upside down and backwards is a good design? Your creator thing gave birds of prey and other animals the superior eye and left us with myopic nightmares. Not to mention retinas prone to detachment, great design!!!
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#159960 Mar 13, 2013
Hemp posters, anyone?
Lincoln wrote:
The Year of Living Dangerously (film) with spiritual overtones, interesting ...
Guy Hamilton, a neophyte foreign correspondent for an Australian network, arrives in Jakarta on assignment. He meets the close-knit members of the foreign correspondent community including journalists from the UK, the US and New Zealand, diplomatic personnel, and a Chinese-Australian dwarf of high intelligence and moral seriousness, Billy Kwan. Hamilton is initially unsuccessful because his predecessor, tired of life in Indonesia, had departed without introducing Hamilton to his contacts. Guy receives limited sympathy from the journalist community, which competes for scraps of information from Sukarno's government, the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI), and the conservative Muslim military. However, Kwan takes a liking to Hamilton and arranges interviews for him with key political figures.
Kwan introduces Hamilton to Jill Bryant, a beautiful young assistant at the British embassy. Kwan and Bryant are close friends, and he subtly manipulates her encounters with Hamilton. After resisting Hamilton because she's returning to the UK, Bryant falls in love with him. Discovering that the Communist Chinese are arming the PKI, Bryant passes this information to Hamilton to save his life, but he wants to cover the Communist rebellion that will occur when the arms shipment reaches Jakarta. Shocked, Kwan and Bryant withdraw their friendship from Hamilton, and he is left with the American journalist Pete Curtis, and his own assistant and driver Kumar, who is secretly PKI. Kumar, however, remains loyal to Hamilton and tries to open his eyes to all that is going on.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#159961 Mar 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope a link to thousands and THOUSANDS and T H O U S A N D S of the type of studies you mention. Because you are too ignorant and egotestical (correct spelling) to accept that medicine and science have thought of it before you is no ones fault but your own
We are not bothered about your personal and ignorant view. Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware than non dyslexics, not a hard and fast rule but a generality. A considerably higher proportion of people classed as genius are dyslexic than the general population would suggest.
You are (typically and no doubt from ignorance) blaming dyslexia on eyesight in the hope or provoking a reaction. And what you are getting in return is facts that show you to be nothing more than chief button pusher of davesworld
Again your stupidity bubbles to the top, dyslexia cannot be cured like the flu. Or corrected like a badly set joint. I have dyslexia, I will always have dyslexia, I use tools to circumvent some of the effects of my disability, that is in no way correcting the malady
Tell me do you enjoy kicking cripples in the street?
Your science dictates that dyslexia or myopia will bias the brain to be more reactive. Reaction time. Pure and simple. Inescapable. Unless you think your brain works faster than the speed of light, or has precognizance.

Dyslexia and myopia are genetic defects if not caused by physical injury. People in that group would be better suited than others in some tasks, contributing to the group survival, but the fact is their reasoning abilities are damaged.

Again, this is basic physics. The speed of light and process time versus time to react.

I do not enjoy kicking cripples. Neither will I allow them to dominate.

Your posts get pretty nasty, and less than civil. You need to try harder to overcome your disabilities.
Lincoln

United States

#159962 Mar 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope a link to thousands and THOUSANDS and T H O U S A N D S of the type of studies you mention. Because you are too ignorant and egotestical (correct spelling) to accept that medicine and science have thought of it before you is no ones fault but your own
We are not bothered about your personal and ignorant view. Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware than non dyslexics, not a hard and fast rule but a generality. A considerably higher proportion of people classed as genius are dyslexic than the general population would suggest.
You are (typically and no doubt from ignorance) blaming dyslexia on eyesight in the hope or provoking a reaction. And what you are getting in return is facts that show you to be nothing more than chief button pusher of davesworld
Again your stupidity bubbles to the top, dyslexia cannot be cured like the flu. Or corrected like a badly set joint. I have dyslexia, I will always have dyslexia, I use tools to circumvent some of the effects of my disability, that is in no way correcting the malady
Tell me do you enjoy kicking cripples in the street?
"Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware..."
interesting as am dyslexic as well.
More with numbers than with words. Still often creates problems and this arrived later in life.

Hope that yours is not a major problem with conducting your life.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#159963 Mar 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>By your own admission, eyesight seems to be an extremely important part of how our species functions. Why then the horrible design? Wired upside down and backwards is a good design? Your creator thing gave birds of prey and other animals the superior eye and left us with myopic nightmares. Not to mention retinas prone to detachment, great design!!!
Why are you bitching to me about that? I didn't design you. Take it up with the manufacturer.

I make do with what I got.
Siro

Australia

#159964 Mar 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Try telling that to the IRA
Good Catholics all and I can’t say I heard them saying they went too far when then killed children
The IRA is a hardcore socialist (along the lines of cuba) group with members who are for the most part atheist (members of the IRA have been arrested in colombia for fighting on side with the FARC - an atheist/marxist terror group).
Their ultimate aim is/was a united ireland with a marxist govt.

And seeing as you are in deflective mode, I'll return the favour..... I see a 16 year old girl was stabbed to death in Birmingham by a black punk, what say you?
Did she deserve it because the blackman is superior (as your orifices would say if they could talk.......wait! they can talk.....as your vocabulary comes from your bumhole), did she get what she deserved because she wouldnt follow your lead and get her undies off?

You filthy slag

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#159965 Mar 13, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope a link to thousands and THOUSANDS and T H O U S A N D S of the type of studies you mention. Because you are too ignorant and egotestical (correct spelling) to accept that medicine and science have thought of it before you is no ones fault but your own
We are not bothered about your personal and ignorant view. Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware than non dyslexics, not a hard and fast rule but a generality. A considerably higher proportion of people classed as genius are dyslexic than the general population would suggest.
You are (typically and no doubt from ignorance) blaming dyslexia on eyesight in the hope or provoking a reaction. And what you are getting in return is facts that show you to be nothing more than chief button pusher of davesworld
Again your stupidity bubbles to the top, dyslexia cannot be cured like the flu. Or corrected like a badly set joint. I have dyslexia, I will always have dyslexia, I use tools to circumvent some of the effects of my disability, that is in no way correcting the malady
Tell me do you enjoy kicking cripples in the street?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

There is nothing in there about enhanced abilities of dyslexics.

Pure and simple, it is an impediment to learning and processing, not a gift.

We all have our issues to deal with, including moi. But you come on way too strong criticizing others for their beliefs. Fix your issues before fixing the world's.
Thinking

Winsford, UK

#159966 Mar 13, 2013
The IRA is a bunch of drug dealing christards.
Siro wrote:
<quoted text>
The IRA is a hardcore socialist (along the lines of cuba) group with members who are for the most part atheist (members of the IRA have been arrested in colombia for fighting on side with the FARC - an atheist/marxist terror group).
Their ultimate aim is/was a united ireland with a marxist govt.
And seeing as you are in deflective mode, I'll return the favour..... I see a 16 year old girl was stabbed to death in Birmingham by a black punk, what say you?
Did she deserve it because the blackman is superior (as your orifices would say if they could talk.......wait! they can talk.....as your vocabulary comes from your bumhole), did she get what she deserved because she wouldnt follow your lead and get her undies off?
You filthy slag

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159968 Mar 13, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
First, I did tell you how.
Second, the difference is we know life exists in the universe, so it's safe to assume that it might exist on other worlds as well. We don't know, and have no evidence, that any gods exist, thus, it is safe to assume your god doesn't exist either.
Third, we have found them. Do you have a better explanation for the effects on gravity, light, and time in those regions of space?
First, no you didn't.

Second, you're saying that because we can't detect something, that suggests it doesn't exist. Very open-minded of you.

Third, detecting effects of something is not the same as detecting that thing.

So yes, there are many things that exist that science still can't detect.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159969 Mar 13, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
<quoted text>
Q. What's the difference between Jesus and a painting?
A. It takes only one nail to hang a painting.
Q. What did the Roman soldiers say to Christ as they were nailing him to the cross?
A. Cross your legs we only have one nail left"
Jesus walks into a hotel, tosses three nails on the front desk and says, "Hey, can you put me up for the night?"
Overheard on the way to Calvary
"Drop that cross one more time and you are out of the parade"!
Easter has been cancelled... they found the body. Details @ 11pm
*to the mob of angry villagers with pitchforks and torches*
Glad to see the catholics are getting some fresh air!
Overheard at the communion rail...
"If this really is blood of jesus, he must have been wasted 24/7".
You could've just said; "I can't prove it, RR. So I'll stick to my beliefs and make some jokes that GML would like..."

It'd be the same thing.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#159970 Mar 13, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"Dyslexics tend to be more intelligent and more spatially aware..."
interesting as am dyslexic as well.
More with numbers than with words. Still often creates problems and this arrived later in life.
Hope that yours is not a major problem with conducting your life.
Thanks no. I was diagnosed at 14 and prescribed prismatic tinted glasses. It only held me back at school and church where those who should know better treated me quite badly. I showed em.

I hope you have a got handle on it.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159971 Mar 13, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not known to exist.
<quoted text>
Easily detectable emotions.
<quoted text>
Not known to exist, but nothing inherently counter to detectability.
<quoted text>
Both detected.
<quoted text>
No, you have shown your position to be wrong already.
Please try harder.

Show me detection if dark matter.

Show me detection of love.

I'll wait.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159972 Mar 13, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
You only see what you want to see.
You ignore what you don't wanna see.

You own link priced you wrong.

Dark matter has never been directly detected.

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