Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159761 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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That which powers you as an individual?
Electricity and chemicals? That's the "soul?" Well we know what happens with all that, it returns to the eco system when we die. So there you have it, science has detected the "soul," but why you choose to use a word from mythology to describe it is beyond me.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#159762 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The unity of existence as proclaimed by science and some religions.
That's not a sentence.

Since: Jul 12

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#159763 Mar 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I wouldn't know about that.
Are you a single mother, then?
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Lol, no.

That's why I added in the little "I heard" part.....

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159764 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Wrong. I would know them. You can just assume you know them.
Oscar, you try hard to come across as an intellectual. Maybe you believe it goes with the territory of being gay and enlightened, a natural trait. But you are wrong. You are looking at reality with blinders on.
No Dave, once again your assumptions lead you astray. I don't consider myself an intellectual at all. Maybe you see me that way, I cannot say. And what being gay and enlightened have to do with each other I can't figure out.

As to blinders, well, let's just say I'm not the one trying to find explanations for my pet forgone conclusions.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159765 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Five atheists in one group is very rare outside an atheist worship service.
I smell bullshit.
"You are looking at reality with blinders on."

Since: Jul 12

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#159766 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
You should know, it's you who believes such thing exists.
Why should I know?
If something can assume a human form and then somehow morph out of it, isn't that magic?
To a simple-minded, "freethinker" like you? Sure.
And exactly how do you know this being can take on human form and then change into something else? Have you ever witnessed such an event? Have you only read about it in your immoral holy book?
YOU are the one putting human traits and limitations on God.

Then when I confront you on it, you turn the table back at me.

Very cowardly of you.

Since: Jul 12

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#159767 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
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1.) Souls like spirit is a religious term with no evidence either exists.
2.) Love, hate and jealousy are human emotion and can be detracted by brain waves.
3.) No one has any idea whether aliens exist or not. At this point in time they do not exist.
4.) Science can and has detected black holes, there is NO doubt that they do exist.
And yes, since you stuck out on all of these you DO need to continue!!!!
1. Science can't detect them.
2. Science can't detect them.
3. Science can't detect them.
4. Science can't detect them.

You could've just said: "You're right, RR."

If your ego would allow it.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159768 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Look, I know atheists like to play with words and sometimes make up definitions as they go along. But that's not how the rest of the world works (you know, the other 99% of us).
There is no "how do I define dead", there is just the definitions of dead.
On this topic, dead means no longer living.
OK, well, by that definition, Jesus is most certainly dead.

Since: Sep 08

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#159769 Mar 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's not a sentence.
Yes it was.

Since: Jul 12

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#159770 Mar 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Um, the "cause" of emotional responses are stimuli from the sensory organs combined with neurological chemicals released when specific events occur, a direct result of natural selection, they are survival traits. There, I gave you the cause and the driver as well as the mechanism for emotions.
Great. A child knows that.

Now tell me HOW...

I'll wait.
Alien life on other planets can be detected, we just haven't yet gotten that far yet, we're working on that.
O_o

umm...

Watch:

God can be detected, we just haven't yet gotten that far yet, we're working on that.
Black holes are easy to detect, look for gravity anomalies, there, you found a black hole.
Dark matter is still in it's early stages of understanding, it's a label given to something that we have observed the effects of, sort of like calling something a "thing" until you know what it is, but scientists like to label every "thing" with some relevant label they hope also describes it for easier cataloging.
Neither one has EVER been detected.

Ever.

We think we've found the effects of black holes and dark matter, but they haven't been detected.
Is there anything else you need explained to you again?
No, that covers all the bases.

You're deluded with your indoctrination of the perfection of science.

Since: Jul 12

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#159771 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>BTW, just because you elect to remain scientifically illiterate doesn't mean that they don't exist. Science HAS detected both, do some research and stop exposing yourself as a dolt!!!
No they haven't.

Ever.

Since: Jul 12

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#159772 Mar 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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See RR? No one can define "soul" or "spirit," and no two descriptions will ever be the same. Before you can even provide a bit of evidence for it, you have to at least define it.
No one, huh?

Soul:

Noun
The spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal.
A person's moral or emotional nature or sense of identity.

Spirit:
Noun
The nonphysical part of a person that is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.

I know I'm no one, so you're probably right.

Since: Sep 08

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#159773 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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No Dave, once again your assumptions lead you astray. I don't consider myself an intellectual at all. Maybe you see me that way, I cannot say. And what being gay and enlightened have to do with each other I can't figure out.
As to blinders, well, let's just say I'm not the one trying to find explanations for my pet forgone conclusions.
Sorry, Oscar, I was thrown by your avatar and your asking why this and why that instead of presenting a real argument with reasoning behind it, like some intellectual models I have seen in the past.

Forgive me, we know you are unique and just a seeker of the truth, not a poseur.

What are my foregone conclusions, Oscar?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159774 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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1. Science can't detect them.
2. Science can't detect them.
3. Science can't detect them.
4. Science can't detect them.
You could've just said: "You're right, RR."
If your ego would allow it.
Why are you lying?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159775 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I know, that's all you atheists do is twist the Bible to mean whatever you want it to mean.
Yeah, Christians never do THAT!

Since: Jul 12

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#159776 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>We, of superior intelligence, always enjoy exposing the childish ignorance of the religiously blinded. Usually accompanied by a picture of one with fingers in ears singing as loud as possible..."Science is wrong, science is wrong....la la la laaaaaa laaaaaaaa." Pitiful example of our spices!!!!
HA HA HA HA !!!

You're such a cocky f_ck.

"We, of superior intelligence".....

--------

"Eventually theorists came up with three sorts of explanations."

Maybe it was a result of a long-discarded version of Einstein's theory of gravity"

"Maybe there was some strange kind of energy-fluid that filled space"

"Maybe there is something wrong with Einstein's theory of gravity"

"Theorists still don't know what the correct explanation is, but they have given the solution a name. It is called dark energy."

http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-ar...

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THEM - of superior intelligence - admit that dark matter & dark energy are only theories.

They are not fact.

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#159777 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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OK, well, by that definition, Jesus is most certainly dead.
Prove it.

Since: Sep 08

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#159778 Mar 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Electricity and chemicals? That's the "soul?" Well we know what happens with all that, it returns to the eco system when we die. So there you have it, science has detected the "soul," but why you choose to use a word from mythology to describe it is beyond me.
As a collection of chemicals and electricity, with the certain knowledge yours is not quite infallible because it is influenced by everything about it, and thus limited by that exposure, why are you on here so absolute in your knowledge there is nothing more than that?

Since: Jul 12

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#159779 Mar 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Why are you lying?
Nice rebuttal!

Here, have a cookie.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159780 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Great. A child knows that.
Now tell me HOW...
I'll wait.
<quoted text>
O_o
umm...
Watch:
God can be detected, we just haven't yet gotten that far yet, we're working on that.
<quoted text>
Neither one has EVER been detected.
Ever.
We think we've found the effects of black holes and dark matter, but they haven't been detected.
<quoted text>
No, that covers all the bases.
You're deluded with your indoctrination of the perfection of science.
First, I did tell you how.

Second, the difference is we know life exists in the universe, so it's safe to assume that it might exist on other worlds as well. We don't know, and have no evidence, that any gods exist, thus, it is safe to assume your god doesn't exist either.

Third, we have found them. Do you have a better explanation for the effects on gravity, light, and time in those regions of space?

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