Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#159749 Mar 12, 2013
That reminds me: I must put some compost around my heart tree.
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Once you take the Black, there's no going back.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#159750 Mar 12, 2013
I wouldn't know about that.
Are you a single mother, then?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I heard different.
I heard that once you go black, you're a single mother.
lol
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159751 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I don't know, what form does an omnipresent being take?
You should know, it's you who believes such thing exists. I'm constantly surprised at how little information you have on this thing, yet you shape your entire existence on it. If something can assume a human form and then somehow morph out of it, isn't that magic? And exactly how do you know this being can take on human form and then change into something else? Have you ever witnessed such an event? Have you only read about it in your immoral holy book? Or did you hear from someone who actually witnessed this event? Otherwise your just talking out of your ass!!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159752 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Souls.
Love.
Hate.
Jealousy.
Aliens.
Black holes.
Dark Matter.
Need I go on?
1.) Souls like spirit is a religious term with no evidence either exists.

2.) Love, hate and jealousy are human emotion and can be detracted by brain waves.

3.) No one has any idea whether aliens exist or not. At this point in time they do not exist.

4.) Science can and has detected black holes, there is NO doubt that they do exist.

And yes, since you stuck out on all of these you DO need to continue!!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159753 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Godd. Then I hereby deem you worthless.
You have made a judgement based on no information, kind of like you do with your God thing!!!! LOL

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159754 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The cause of emotions and how we interpret them has not been detected.
Dark matter and black holes have not been detected.
Aliens have not been detected (except outside of Home Depot and behind every lawnmower in America)
Try again.
Um, the "cause" of emotional responses are stimuli from the sensory organs combined with neurological chemicals released when specific events occur, a direct result of natural selection, they are survival traits. There, I gave you the cause and the driver as well as the mechanism for emotions. We actually understand them quite well, they are pretty simple chemical systems, simpler than the endocrine system y far. Thus, most of your list has been detected.

Alien life on other planets can be detected, we just haven't yet gotten that far yet, we're working on that.

Black holes are easy to detect, look for gravity anomalies, there, you found a black hole.

Dark matter is still in it's early stages of understanding, it's a label given to something that we have observed the effects of, sort of like calling something a "thing" until you know what it is, but scientists like to label every "thing" with some relevant label they hope also describes it for easier cataloging.

Is there anything else you need explained to you again?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159755 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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BTW - science can't detect black holes or dark matter.....
Just sayin...
BTW, just because you elect to remain scientifically illiterate doesn't mean that they don't exist. Science HAS detected both, do some research and stop exposing yourself as a dolt!!!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159756 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Your thinking is warped. You have difficulty determining what is detectable and what isn't.
It is "spirit", an invisible force which you cant see but activates matter, that create your videos, and thus self expression. Call it electricity. That electricity is caused by stressing matter with another force. You create a charge that gets passed along.
Your physical being is also a result of that stressing and charge passing. Only it is done in a most complex way to give you "thought" that can then cause expression.
Are you really convinced that your thought processes, your very existence, is determined only by reactions to your environment? If so, why are you so sure you see things as they actually are?
See RR? No one can define "soul" or "spirit," and no two descriptions will ever be the same. Before you can even provide a bit of evidence for it, you have to at least define it.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159757 Mar 12, 2013
The unity of existence as proclaimed by science and some religions. Everything is part of a whole.

Ever notice the propensity of people to feed stray animals? To keep fellow creatures alive?

Even the meanest SOB alive can succumb to a helpless or hungry animal. He can find something he can bond with to a degree, even if it is only throwing bread on the ground.

That preserving another life can even cause complications for the preserver. You can draw other life to your space by feeding that which you have feeling for. Then you also have the expense of cat and dog food. Funny how people with nothing will sacrifice some of that nothing to feed other creatures/

Even some animals can do that with other animals.

Where does such arise from a purely material evolution? One can come up with a social evolution regarding keeping fellow humans alive, but what about those creatures that can be competition for food? Where did that come from?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#159758 Mar 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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See RR? No one can define "soul" or "spirit," and no two descriptions will ever be the same. Before you can even provide a bit of evidence for it, you have to at least define it.
That which powers you as an individual?

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#159759 Mar 12, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Like Jesus.(If he ever was.)
And Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson is still dead?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#159760 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The cause of emotions and how we interpret them has not been detected.
Dark matter and black holes have not been detected.
Aliens have not been detected (except outside of Home Depot and behind every lawnmower in America)
Try again.
We, of superior intelligence, always enjoy exposing the childish ignorance of the religiously blinded. Usually accompanied by a picture of one with fingers in ears singing as loud as possible..."Science is wrong, science is wrong....la la la laaaaaa laaaaaaaa." Pitiful example of our spices!!!!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#159761 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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That which powers you as an individual?
Electricity and chemicals? That's the "soul?" Well we know what happens with all that, it returns to the eco system when we die. So there you have it, science has detected the "soul," but why you choose to use a word from mythology to describe it is beyond me.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#159762 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
The unity of existence as proclaimed by science and some religions.
That's not a sentence.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159763 Mar 12, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I wouldn't know about that.
Are you a single mother, then?
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Lol, no.

That's why I added in the little "I heard" part.....

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159764 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Wrong. I would know them. You can just assume you know them.
Oscar, you try hard to come across as an intellectual. Maybe you believe it goes with the territory of being gay and enlightened, a natural trait. But you are wrong. You are looking at reality with blinders on.
No Dave, once again your assumptions lead you astray. I don't consider myself an intellectual at all. Maybe you see me that way, I cannot say. And what being gay and enlightened have to do with each other I can't figure out.

As to blinders, well, let's just say I'm not the one trying to find explanations for my pet forgone conclusions.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159765 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Five atheists in one group is very rare outside an atheist worship service.
I smell bullshit.
"You are looking at reality with blinders on."

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159766 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
You should know, it's you who believes such thing exists.
Why should I know?
If something can assume a human form and then somehow morph out of it, isn't that magic?
To a simple-minded, "freethinker" like you? Sure.
And exactly how do you know this being can take on human form and then change into something else? Have you ever witnessed such an event? Have you only read about it in your immoral holy book?
YOU are the one putting human traits and limitations on God.

Then when I confront you on it, you turn the table back at me.

Very cowardly of you.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#159767 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
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1.) Souls like spirit is a religious term with no evidence either exists.
2.) Love, hate and jealousy are human emotion and can be detracted by brain waves.
3.) No one has any idea whether aliens exist or not. At this point in time they do not exist.
4.) Science can and has detected black holes, there is NO doubt that they do exist.
And yes, since you stuck out on all of these you DO need to continue!!!!
1. Science can't detect them.
2. Science can't detect them.
3. Science can't detect them.
4. Science can't detect them.

You could've just said: "You're right, RR."

If your ego would allow it.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159768 Mar 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Look, I know atheists like to play with words and sometimes make up definitions as they go along. But that's not how the rest of the world works (you know, the other 99% of us).
There is no "how do I define dead", there is just the definitions of dead.
On this topic, dead means no longer living.
OK, well, by that definition, Jesus is most certainly dead.

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