Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#159848 Mar 12, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Feel free to present to evidence something existed before the universe. BTW the bible has none, and your suspicion doesn't count.
"No it isn't what is said.
That is what you say, in fact you wont find any reference by a cosmologist or astrophysicist saying,

In the beginning was nothing,..and it exploded.
That is your stupid line, which btw reflects the mentality of someone like you."

Your earlier post.

Can it be assumed then those scientists say there was something?

Would that be evidence?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159849 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://scitechdaily.com/caltec h-engineers-develop-self-heali ng-circuits/
Note that this is an intelligently designed product.
But the Topix atheists will toss it into their butitcoulda bags. Which itcouldabeen in the Big Bang thingy, also.
A toothbrush is also an intelligently designed product. Is a toothbrush inferred proof of a magic universe-creating deity?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159850 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Show me how.
Don't give me any books to read. Show your stuff.
Always cracks me up when a theist insists on proof.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#159851 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
You misunderstand.
Those were attempts to establish a dialogue with you. On your level.
It was a strain, believe me.
Keep trying. It appears as though my level is well above yours. Straining to reach a little higher is difficult, but do keep at it. Just doing attempt to have a dialog about music, I'm so far above you on that it would be impossible for you to reach even the elementary level. Your worship of pukebucket is testimony to that.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#159852 Mar 12, 2013
Amusing.

You can take the most primitive living people there are and they look out and realize something created all of this. Something way past their power and understanding. They live their lives and do their thing with this certainty.

It takes a Topix atheist going to school and being taught they are just glorified pieces of stellar poopy to deny such a higher creative intelligence. But now they are smart and superior because they were taught that. By other men. With no real proof. Just imaginings and couldabeens.

Amazing, the intellectual heights some can reach if they don't try thinking on their own.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#159853 Mar 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I detect a loss in Dave's mental functioning.
You mean...JUST NOW!!!!! WOW!!!
bohart

White Pine, TN

#159854 Mar 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
What am I your science teacher? Take some fcking initiative man! Leave supernatural nonsense behind and start studying actual observable data! And just because something may be unknown doesn't mean you say a god did it!
WTF!
<quoted text>
No your a dumbass, I suppose you could teach a class in dumbassology since you possess a masters degree in it.

P.S. there is no observable data for a natural cause for the universe.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#159855 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
A toothbrush is also an intelligently designed product. Is a toothbrush inferred proof of a magic universe-creating deity?
You might think so, but no, it isn't.

However, arranging matter to heal itself, to adapt its self to carry on its task, is similar enough to our material construction does raise a good possibility that similar was done to us. Once you get past your ego.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#159856 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You mean...JUST NOW!!!!! WOW!!!
Yeah! I thought Catcher1 was faster than that!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#159857 Mar 12, 2013
CunningLinguist wrote:
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It took this long???? I noticed this with the first post!
David is seriously delusional as are most theist topix posters.
Religion tends to poison virtually everything.
S/He is a robo-poster with little else to occupy those few remaining brain cells that are not dogma addicted.
David's wheel is still spinning but the hamster died long ago!
Ahhh, the late GREAT Christopher Hitchens...."Religion poisons everything" I miss him immensely!!!!! But thankfully we have Sam Harris. My favorite Sam Harris......."If you find me mumbling some words over my pancakes in the morning hoping to turn them into the body of Elvis, you'd call me insane, but if I do the same thing over a cracker in church, I'm just a Catholic."

Not sure who said this, but......Tell someone that an imaginary being created the cosmos and everything in it, they will believe you without question. Tell them the paint is wet, and they HAVE to touch it to be sure. Go figure.....religion does poison everything!!!

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159858 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Amusing.
You can take the most primitive living people there are and they look out and realize something created all of this. Something way past their power and understanding. They live their lives and do their thing with this certainty.
It takes a Topix atheist going to school and being taught they are just glorified pieces of stellar poopy to deny such a higher creative intelligence. But now they are smart and superior because they were taught that. By other men. With no real proof. Just imaginings and couldabeens.
Amazing, the intellectual heights some can reach if they don't try thinking on their own.
LOL! Your problem is that you can't see reality because your ego blocks the view.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#159859 Mar 12, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
No your a dumbass, I suppose you could teach a class in dumbassology since you possess a masters degree in it.
P.S. there is no observable data for a natural cause for the universe.
Sure there is. Lots, actually. Conversely, consider the complete lack of evidence for an artificial cause.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#159860 Mar 12, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
Amusing.
You can take the most primitive living people there are and they look out and realize something created all of this. Something way past their power and understanding. They live their lives and do their thing with this certainty.
It takes a Topix atheist going to school and being taught they are just glorified pieces of stellar poopy to deny such a higher creative intelligence. But now they are smart and superior because they were taught that. By other men. With no real proof. Just imaginings and couldabeens.
Amazing, the intellectual heights some can reach if they don't try thinking on their own.
Agreed, takes a lot of work to be that blind.
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#159861 Mar 12, 2013
KJV wrote:
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Big Fox hole.
Every fox hole I was in was a two person fox hole. You traded watch time the other slept.
I remember it well!!!
blacklagoon

Jamaica Plain, MA

#159862 Mar 12, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Well, it's obvious to anyone not indoctrinated into the puddle goo philosophy,wait for it, here it is ....in the beginning was nothing, and it exploded.
Oh oh, another looney on the loose. Who ever said in the beginning there was nothing?

Now...its your turn, how did the universe come to be? How did our species come to be? Two easy questions, have at it!!!!

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#159863 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Keep trying. It appears as though my level is well above yours. Straining to reach a little higher is difficult, but do keep at it. Just doing attempt to have a dialog about music, I'm so far above you on that it would be impossible for you to reach even the elementary level. Your worship of pukebucket is testimony to that.
Amusing. By my belief in a higher existence I automatically can look down at you. You are stuck to the ground, so to speak.

As far as your perception of our relative positions, if you weren't hanging upside down in that hole you would see the truth.

As far as your sense of worth referred to in previous posts, it is based soley on demand. As I suggested before, if you wish to give a concert in a park the same time as Buckethead, be sure to keep plenty of peanuts in your pocket for the squirrels. Who knows, that might even attract other old codgers and nut cases wanting to feed the squirrels, adding to your audience. Would help your ego.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#159864 Mar 12, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Sure there is. Lots, actually. Conversely, consider the complete lack of evidence for an artificial cause.
Uh, no there isn't

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#159865 Mar 12, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Agreed, takes a lot of work to be that blind.
In an ultra-high vacuum chamber chilled to 10 degrees above absolute zero (10 Kelvin), Seol Kim and Ralf Kaiser of the Hawaiian team simulated an icy snowball in space including carbon dioxide, ammonia and various hydrocarbons such as methane, ethane and propane. When zapped with high-energy electrons to simulate the cosmic rays in space, the chemicals reacted to form complex, organic compounds, specifically dipeptides, essential to life. At UC Berkeley, Mathies and Amanda Stockton then analyzed the organic residues through the Mars Organic Analyzer, an instrument that Mathies designed for ultrasensitive detection and identification of small organic molecules in the solar system. The analysis revealed the presence of complex molecules – nine different amino acids and at least two dipeptides – capable of catalyzing biological evolution on earth.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-03-evidence-comets-...

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#159866 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Oh oh, another looney on the loose. Who ever said in the beginning there was nothing?
Now...its your turn, how did the universe come to be? How did our species come to be? Two easy questions, have at it!!!!
How does a rose seed turn into a rose? Or a dogwood seed into a dogwood flower? How does a human egg turn into a human?

Think hard about it if you can.
bohart

White Pine, TN

#159867 Mar 12, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Oh oh, another looney on the loose. Who ever said in the beginning there was nothing?
Now...its your turn, how did the universe come to be? How did our species come to be? Two easy questions, have at it!!!!
1. the puddle goo church version.
There was a great explosion billions of years ago that caused the universe. The earth formed and it was a hot molten mass of lava, somehow, know one knows how ,but water came to the earth in tremendous amounts to the point that 70 percent of the earth was covered. Then! in these primordial seas the miracle of life began,and through the billions of years starting with bacteria type life, all life emerged through the primordial puddle to evolve into man.

2. A creator caused the universe to begin and created life.
Thats pretty straightforward.You either believe it or you don't.

..or you can believe that an uncaused explosion resulted in the universe, physical and natural laws, and all life.

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